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Post by yattongas on Jul 20, 2022 16:45:57 GMT
Early days, but... "New polling from Opinium shows that a Sir Keir Starmer government is preferred by the public when compared to any of the final three candidates to be leader of the Conservative Party. Rishi Sunak comes the closest to Sir Keir - but is still 11 percentage points behind the Labour leader. The survey was carried out on Monday and Tuesday, with 2,000 adults in Great Britain asked: "If you were forced to choose, which of these would you prefer?" They were offered a choice of a government led by Sir Keir, or one of Mr Sunak, Penny Mordaunt or Liz Truss. Sir Keir got 46% and Rishi Sunak 35% when the two were compared. A Labour administration got 45% compared to 33% for Penny Mordaunt. And a Liz Truss government was chosen by 32% of people asked - while Sir Keir was picked by 46%." Stupid poll really, if anything it shows Sunak would win. The voters for Kier, in this scenario, would be split across labour & Lib Dems and those voting Tory would 100% vote Tory? Labour will concentrate on winning in the seats they think they can win and they’ll leave the others ( mainly in the south west ) to Lib Dems although both parties will say there’s no pact . Think the general public are a bit more savvy now and will vote accordingly to get the Tories out . The last couple of by-elections were good examples of this . |
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Post by fintanstack on Jul 20, 2022 17:21:40 GMT
Stupid poll really, if anything it shows Sunak would win. The voters for Kier, in this scenario, would be split across labour & Lib Dems and those voting Tory would 100% vote Tory? Labour will concentrate on winning in the seats they think they can win and they’ll leave the others ( mainly in the south west ) to Lib Dems although both parties will say there’s no pact . Think the general public are a bit more savvy now and will vote accordingly to get the Tories out . The last couple of by-elections were good examples of this . Truss would be a disaster. I think Sunak is more popular with voters than he is his own party. |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 20, 2022 17:27:39 GMT
Labour will concentrate on winning in the seats they think they can win and they’ll leave the others ( mainly in the south west ) to Lib Dems although both parties will say there’s no pact . Think the general public are a bit more savvy now and will vote accordingly to get the Tories out . The last couple of by-elections were good examples of this . Truss would be a disaster. I think Sunak is more popular with voters than he is his own party. Yep . Labour have a 14 point lead with Truss as leader 12 points with Sunak in polling I saw somewhere today. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 20, 2022 21:18:55 GMT
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Post by baggins on Jul 21, 2022 5:28:40 GMT
Our choices:
Rishi Sunak - destroyed the economy
Liz Truss - can't spell economy
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Post by yattongas on Jul 21, 2022 5:53:27 GMT
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Post by fintanstack on Jul 21, 2022 8:39:31 GMT
I see Truss is now back peddling on Remain vote.
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Post by trevorgas on Jul 21, 2022 8:40:24 GMT
Our choices: Rishi Sunak - destroyed the economy Liz Truss - can't spell economy Bags please explain to me how Sunak destroyed the economy, interested in your thoughts. |
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Post by francegas on Jul 21, 2022 9:23:15 GMT
Our choices: Rishi Sunak - destroyed the economy Liz Truss - can't spell economy Bags please explain to me how Sunak destroyed the economy, interested in your thoughts. This should be an interesting read !! |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 21, 2022 9:29:25 GMT
I see Truss is now back peddling on Remain vote. Politicians can change their minds, it's the general public who can't. 😐 |
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Post by oldie on Jul 21, 2022 9:44:04 GMT
I see Truss is now back peddling on Remain vote. Politicians can change their minds, it's the general public who can't. 😐 Oh, so well put Stuart. |
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Post by baggins on Jul 21, 2022 10:22:00 GMT
Our choices: Rishi Sunak - destroyed the economy Liz Truss - can't spell economy Bags please explain to me how Sunak destroyed the economy, interested in your thoughts. We don't have one. |
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Post by trevorgas on Jul 21, 2022 14:33:22 GMT
Bags please explain to me how Sunak destroyed the economy, interested in your thoughts. We don't have one. Oh dear!!! |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 21, 2022 14:35:36 GMT
I see Truss is now back peddling on Remain vote. She backed peddled pretty much the day after the vote didn’t she ? |
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Post by baggins on Jul 21, 2022 14:54:22 GMT
OK and he's made, or the Tories have made our lives better by doing what? 12 years. 12 sodding years. Nane one. |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 21, 2022 15:04:26 GMT
He pushed for Brexit which has been a bigger hit to the economy than covid . That makes him an idiot . There you go 😃. |
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Post by fintanstack on Jul 21, 2022 16:39:58 GMT
Sunak did very well with the furlough scheme.
There was a lot of muddled thinking in response to the pandemic but I do not necessarily blame the Tories for that, I think they were trying to avoid lockdowns and save the NHS front line from becoming overwhelmed.
It is easy to be critical of many things but no party has faced something like Covid in many years.
I quite like Sunak, which is not something I have been able to say about a front bench Tory in a very long time.
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Post by yattongas on Jul 21, 2022 18:06:07 GMT
Sunak did very well with the furlough scheme. There was a lot of muddled thinking in response to the pandemic but I do not necessarily blame the Tories for that, I think they were trying to avoid lockdowns and save the NHS front line from becoming overwhelmed. It is easy to be critical of many things but no party has faced something like Covid in many years. I quite like Sunak, which is not something I have been able to say about a front bench Tory in a very long time. What do you like about him ? Interested to hear . |
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Post by axegas on Jul 21, 2022 22:30:06 GMT
Sunak did very well with the furlough scheme. There was a lot of muddled thinking in response to the pandemic but I do not necessarily blame the Tories for that, I think they were trying to avoid lockdowns and save the NHS front line from becoming overwhelmed. It is easy to be critical of many things but no party has faced something like Covid in many years. I quite like Sunak, which is not something I have been able to say about a front bench Tory in a very long time. And for the reason that you probably quite like him, 160,000 Tory members won't choose him. We'll get Liz Truss and her amazing economic plan to cut taxes, then stick your head under a rock so all the debt goes away. |
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Post by axegas on Jul 21, 2022 22:33:43 GMT
It's funny that it's only now that MP's no longer have a say on the future leader, that Truss publicly states her disapproval in the economic policies of the last 4 Tory governments.
Can only assume that's an awful lot of backbenchers whom we're involved in the creation of those policies, that she's pi55ed off.
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