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Post by stuart1974 on Sept 5, 2020 11:02:40 GMT
Must try harder. "But a succession of embarrassing U-turns and errors over the summer—on exam grading, virus tracking and face masks, among other things—has left Tory MPs dismayed at what they see as incompetence inside Johnson’s Downing Street operation. When they returned to Westminster this week, many Tories were in a dark mood. “Overall, there’s not really a sense of grip and direction, which has been very disappointing,” one MP said, speaking on condition of anonymity. “It needs more than funny jokes to get over it in the next few months; we really need stronger leadership.” " www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-05/johnson-s-party-wonders-if-he-s-losing-his-grip?utm_source=upday.samsung.browser&utm_medium=referral
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Post by baggins on Sept 5, 2020 11:25:31 GMT
Must try harder. "But a succession of embarrassing U-turns and errors over the summer—on exam grading, virus tracking and face masks, among other things—has left Tory MPs dismayed at what they see as incompetence inside Johnson’s Downing Street operation. When they returned to Westminster this week, many Tories were in a dark mood. “Overall, there’s not really a sense of grip and direction, which has been very disappointing,” one MP said, speaking on condition of anonymity. “It needs more than funny jokes to get over it in the next few months; we really need stronger leadership.” " www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-05/johnson-s-party-wonders-if-he-s-losing-his-grip?utm_source=upday.samsung.browser&utm_medium=referralDidn't they vote him in?
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Post by oldgas on Sept 5, 2020 15:04:01 GMT
Time to move on?? Agree? So this Government. Today DFID disbanded and merged into the Foreign Office. Today Johnson made no pretence at this being a redirection of funds to further political aim, rather than as a relief to the most poor in the world. Listen to Johnson's words in Parliament today. Yeah, be loads better with Liebour wouldn't it? Just imagine a government run by the likes of Abbott, Lammy,Butler, Corbyn, McDonnell etc etc, What could possibly go wrong?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 16:31:55 GMT
Time to move on?? Agree? So this Government. Today DFID disbanded and merged into the Foreign Office. Today Johnson made no pretence at this being a redirection of funds to further political aim, rather than as a relief to the most poor in the world. Listen to Johnson's words in Parliament today. Yeah, be loads better with Liebour wouldn't it? Just imagine a government run by the likes of Abbott, Lammy,Butler, Corbyn, McDonnell etc etc, What could possibly go wrong? Keep up old chap.🧐
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Post by oldgas on Sept 5, 2020 16:46:26 GMT
Yeah, be loads better with Liebour wouldn't it? Just imagine a government run by the likes of Abbott, Lammy,Butler, Corbyn, McDonnell etc etc, What could possibly go wrong? Keep up old chap.🧐 I am keeping up? That would have been the core of the Liebour government if they had won in December, old chap 🧐
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 17:01:38 GMT
I am keeping up? That would have been the core of the Liebour government if they had won in December, old chap 🧐 You quoted an opening post from three months ago. Perhaps a nice rest in the late autumn sunshine might help?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 9:20:31 GMT
It perfectly sums up the UK. And the far right conservatives still get a bit tetchy when you compare them with Nazis.
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Post by oldgas on Sept 6, 2020 9:45:54 GMT
It perfectly sums up the UK. And the far right conservatives still get a bit tetchy when you compare them with Nazis. Yeah, they’ve done a good job of hiding the consentration camps and gas ovens haven’t they? Imagine the fuss when they’re discovered!
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Post by oldgas on Sept 6, 2020 9:48:24 GMT
I am keeping up? That would have been the core of the Liebour government if they had won in December, old chap 🧐 You quoted an opening post from three months ago. Perhaps a nice rest in the late autumn sunshine might help? What does it matter when the quote was made? The fact is if Liebour had won then that is the government we would have had dealing with the Covid problem, whilst at the same time bending over to take it from the EU and BLM. Jesus H.
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Post by Gassy on Sept 6, 2020 9:51:58 GMT
Let me guess, Labour is at fault for the recession in 2008 but the Tories can’t be at fault to any of the current recession in the UK?
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Post by oldgas on Sept 6, 2020 10:34:02 GMT
Let me guess, Labour is at fault for the recession in 2008 but the Tories can’t be at fault to any of the current recession in the UK? You’re quite right of course. What was the Conservative government doing introducing Covid into the UK, thus triggering a recession that was totally avoidable? We have seen how the rest of Europe didn’t allow Covid into their countries, and China didn’t start the whole thing off. None of them are in recession because of it. The only country in the whole world who has suffered Covid and as a result is in recession is the UK, and it’s all the fault of the Nazis masquerading as a Conservative government. Again. Jesus H.
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Post by baggins on Sept 6, 2020 11:19:18 GMT
Let me guess, Labour is at fault for the recession in 2008 but the Tories can’t be at fault to any of the current recession in the UK? You’re quite right of course. What was the Conservative government doing introducing Covid into the UK, thus triggering a recession that was totally avoidable? We have seen how the rest of Europe didn’t allow Covid into their countries, and China didn’t start the whole thing off. None of them are in recession because of it. The only country in the whole world who has suffered Covid and as a result is in recession is the UK, and it’s all the fault of the Nazis masquerading as a Conservative government. Again. Jesus H. And we were doing so well before Covid hit.
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Post by Gassy on Sept 6, 2020 11:26:46 GMT
Let me guess, Labour is at fault for the recession in 2008 but the Tories can’t be at fault to any of the current recession in the UK? You’re quite right of course. What was the Conservative government doing introducing Covid into the UK, thus triggering a recession that was totally avoidable? We have seen how the rest of Europe didn’t allow Covid into their countries, and China didn’t start the whole thing off. None of them are in recession because of it. The only country in the whole world who has suffered Covid and as a result is in recession is the UK, and it’s all the fault of the Nazis masquerading as a Conservative government. Again. Jesus H. Yep, just like the Labour government single handedly fixed American mortgages and loans in order to crash the UK economy only, whilst the rest of the word wasn’t effected at all. Meanwhile in Europe we’ve got the highest cases, highest deaths and worst hit economy despite having 2-3 weeks advance notice ahead of the rest of Europe. But that’s not their fault, no. They’ve done a stellar job
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Post by baggins on Sept 6, 2020 11:28:56 GMT
You’re quite right of course. What was the Conservative government doing introducing Covid into the UK, thus triggering a recession that was totally avoidable? We have seen how the rest of Europe didn’t allow Covid into their countries, and China didn’t start the whole thing off. None of them are in recession because of it. The only country in the whole world who has suffered Covid and as a result is in recession is the UK, and it’s all the fault of the Nazis masquerading as a Conservative government. Again. Jesus H. Yep, just like the Labour government single handedly fixed American mortgages and loans in order to crash the UK economy only, whilst the rest of the word wasn’t effected at all. Meanwhile in Europe we’ve got the highest cases, highest deaths and worst hit economy despite having 2-3 weeks advance notice ahead of the rest of Europe. But that’s not their fault, no. They’ve done a stellar job But we've got a great new rail track going in. Which no-one wants. But hey, I hear it was a good price.
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Post by Gassy on Sept 6, 2020 11:46:28 GMT
Yep, just like the Labour government single handedly fixed American mortgages and loans in order to crash the UK economy only, whilst the rest of the word wasn’t effected at all. Meanwhile in Europe we’ve got the highest cases, highest deaths and worst hit economy despite having 2-3 weeks advance notice ahead of the rest of Europe. But that’s not their fault, no. They’ve done a stellar job But we've got a great new rail track going in. Which no-one wants. But hey, I hear it was a good price. Might start doing what the Americans have started chanting at this rate 12 more years! 12 more years!
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Post by trevorgas on Sept 6, 2020 11:47:07 GMT
You’re quite right of course. What was the Conservative government doing introducing Covid into the UK, thus triggering a recession that was totally avoidable? We have seen how the rest of Europe didn’t allow Covid into their countries, and China didn’t start the whole thing off. None of them are in recession because of it. The only country in the whole world who has suffered Covid and as a result is in recession is the UK, and it’s all the fault of the Nazis masquerading as a Conservative government. Again. Jesus H. Yep, just like the Labour government single handedly fixed American mortgages and loans in order to crash the UK economy only, whilst the rest of the word wasn’t effected at all. Meanwhile in Europe we’ve got the highest cases, highest deaths and worst hit economy despite having 2-3 weeks advance notice ahead of the rest of Europe. But that’s not their fault, no. They’ve done a stellar job Whilst we may have the highest number of deaths in total it's interesting looking at deaths per capita which I believe puts Belgium at the top and dear okd Nicola's Scotland 3rd and I tend to think that's by far a better indicator. As for the economy it's no surprise we have a Consumer demand led economy underpinned by borrowing whilst much of Europe has a more mixed model .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 11:47:59 GMT
Let me guess, Labour is at fault for the recession in 2008 but the Tories can’t be at fault to any of the current recession in the UK? You’re quite right of course. What was the Conservative government doing introducing Covid into the UK, thus triggering a recession that was totally avoidable? We have seen how the rest of Europe didn’t allow Covid into their countries, and China didn’t start the whole thing off. None of them are in recession because of it. The only country in the whole world who has suffered Covid and as a result is in recession is the UK, and it’s all the fault of the Nazis masquerading as a Conservative government. Again. Jesus H. Recessions can be caused by a myriad of factors. What is under the control of the Government is spending. Despite all the promises made at the 2010 election this Government managed to nearly double the national debt. So when considering the competence of the current cabinet make up that has to be considered. Add the Brexit Ref., Add the utterly shambolic negotiations with the EU since, the total lack of significant trade treaties during the past four years despite the promises, the lack of any real policy agendas since 2017 and now the farce since January 2020. No Government at all in place would not have led to worse outcomes. But this is all just diversionary baiting by Oldgas...we have seen it all before. Just a chunk of puerile posts with zero factual analysis other than schoolboy "Whataboutery". Best ignored.
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Post by Gassy on Sept 6, 2020 11:52:26 GMT
Yep, just like the Labour government single handedly fixed American mortgages and loans in order to crash the UK economy only, whilst the rest of the word wasn’t effected at all. Meanwhile in Europe we’ve got the highest cases, highest deaths and worst hit economy despite having 2-3 weeks advance notice ahead of the rest of Europe. But that’s not their fault, no. They’ve done a stellar job Whilst we may have the highest number of deaths in total it's interesting looking at deaths per capita which I believe puts Belgium at the top and dear okd Nicola's Scotland 3rd and I tend to think that's by far a better indicator. As for the economy it's no surprise we have a Consumer demand led economy underpinned by borrowing whilst much of Europe has a more mixed model . I mean, we have the 2nd highest deaths per capita, so I’m not really sure you’re saving anyone any face. Just adding to the level of incompetence IMO. As for economy, which countries in Europe aren’t consumer demand led?
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Post by oldgas on Sept 6, 2020 18:42:12 GMT
You’re quite right of course. What was the Conservative government doing introducing Covid into the UK, thus triggering a recession that was totally avoidable? We have seen how the rest of Europe didn’t allow Covid into their countries, and China didn’t start the whole thing off. None of them are in recession because of it. The only country in the whole world who has suffered Covid and as a result is in recession is the UK, and it’s all the fault of the Nazis masquerading as a Conservative government. Again. Jesus H. Recessions can be caused by a myriad of factors. What is under the control of the Government is spending. Despite all the promises made at the 2010 election this Government managed to nearly double the national debt. So when considering the competence of the current cabinet make up that has to be considered. Add the Brexit Ref., Add the utterly shambolic negotiations with the EU since, the total lack of significant trade treaties during the past four years despite the promises, the lack of any real policy agendas since 2017 and now the farce since January 2020. No Government at all in place would not have led to worse outcomes. But this is all just diversionary baiting by Oldgas...we have seen it all before. Just a chunk of puerile posts with zero factual analysis other than schoolboy "Whataboutery". Best ignored. Are you now saying that a Liebour government would have spent LESS than the Conservatives since 2010? After everything that Steptoe, McDonnell et at were saying? Really? Did you write that with a straight face and without your fingers and toes crossed? So I’m best ignored now eh? Typical Left Wing reaction to something you don’t like and can’t counter. Stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and sing “La la la la la”
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