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Post by wallywalters on Jun 28, 2020 14:57:43 GMT
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 28, 2020 15:11:22 GMT
Lost again. Oh dear, how sad. 😀😀😀
UTG!
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 28, 2020 15:51:34 GMT
As a follower of football , and although Rovers through and through, i take an interest in all clubs and there fortunes. From this perspective i listened to the post match on Radio Bristol and have reached the following conclusion, Bristol City ,whether we like it or not, are holding there own in a very tough league , among which are some big clubs with a much higher profile and pedigree than City, but despite this relative success, the fans are up in arms as for some reason they believe they should be doing much better and think they should have reached the promised land by now. There seems to be a consensus for sacking the manager, the same manager who not so long ago was plotting to and succeeding in beating the likes of Man utd, and giving one of the best teams in Europe a run for there money. The club have cashed in on some big transfer deals ,selling there best players consistently over the last few seasons which has enabled them to survive as a business, propping up a daily balance sheet which would otherwise look far worse than it does now. They have an owner who will ensure they will survive but even he would not, i suspect, throw millions at trying to reach the promised land at all costs, they went down that road before i remember and we all know how that ended !( days! tee hee!) I don't really care what happens over there but my advice would be ,'just be thankful for what you have' you have over stated feelings of entitlements and delusions of Grandeur which so irritates us mere followers of the 'little' clubs. Would Rovers fans be any different should we get a new stadium and reach the championship? i would like to think so but after a few championship seasons would fans want more? not sure, some will say you have to have ambition or what's the point, others will be happy with there lot and be content with there surroundings, and be happy to stay there. Would be interested in a view from some one like Wareham with his Bournemouth connections, a club historically playing in tier 3/4 but now at the top table , having experienced life there would fans be happy if and when relegation comes? Would they be calling for Eddie Howes head, or would they be thankful for the memories and adjust once more to 'normal 'life? Personally i believe as you get older you realise that the game we love and the club we follow may seem all important and very capable of playing havoc with your emotions at both ends of the scale ,but as this years tragic events have confirmed it aint really that important is it? our season in the 5th tier ,far from being a negative, proved very enlightening to me and made me realise that the game at the lower levels has just as much to offer, can provide as much enjoyment and is a much 'truer' version of reality than the fantasy word of the premier league and its riches . You may get the impression that i am not bothered about reaching the premier league, you would be right, you play your 46 games ,see how many points you win and if that total takes you higher ,so be it, you accept it , but it is not an ambition of mine, that is limited to surviving in good health to watch Rovers where ever we play in what ever division! Phew all this after listening to our neighbours complaining about there lot, but you know what? it was ever so funny!! not very sporting i know! up the Rovers! Too much common sense halifax! I know it’s an aspiration for fans to reach the PL but I wonder if it’s more important for the younger fans who’ve grown up with it than us older generation fans who remember the pre-PL days. As a Bournemouth ST holder I’m not at all worried if they get relegated out of the PL this season. The only sad bit for me is the misery I know my youngest will feel about it. He was with me at the Mansfield match and knows what it’s like to see your club go through the floor. We’ve been talking about it this week and I was saying about how they had had 5 years in the PL, beaten all the best teams (except Man C) in their time, had some great away days etc etc. I’d also feel sorry for all the part time jobs this has caused for the locals and the economy here. On a match day you look and wonder if they went down the number of staff would plummet at a great personal loss to them, but that’s the same anywhere I guess. For all Bournemouth fans this five year period has been a dream that most, if honest, would never have expected. For some of us we were at the matches when they avoided non league against Chester with the great escape so it’s been a real dream. But the longer it’s gone on the higher the sense of entitlement for it to continue. Most of the fans around me will renew for the new season wherever they are but I wouldn’t be sure if a return if they go down. Much will depend on Eddie H. I think he’ll go if a good offer were to come in and the success of Bournemouth has been down to him and his calmness under pressure and the close links he’s got with his players. Perhaps too close. An increasing number of fans have started to question the ambitions of the club and the annual search for 40 points just to stay up is what the season is about for most PL clubs, not just Bournemouth. As a match day experience i have no wish to watch PL football. It’s overpriced, very few local players (but I guess that’s the same at Rovers), parking a nightmare and you listen to people moaning about referees, players who can’t pass, tackle or shoot and you watch players fall over if they get touched. Their sense of entitlement is staggering. I sometimes feel the need to shout at them “remember where you come from!” I’d say anyone’s welcome to the PL. But I accept I may be in a minority. Though Dean Court isn’t a special stadium, it is at least clean, you are able to use toilet facilities without worrying about how deep in **** you might find it. If we were ever to get a new stadium I’d see it as a step up in the match day experience not as a step to the PL. Others might see it differently. As for views of Bristol City, I’ve always thought those gasheads who live in the Bristol area must feel the rivalry far more than people like me. I haven’t lived in Bristol for nearly 50 years and whilst I don’t like them their billy-big-bo**** attitudes don’t touch me and I don’t have to face it daily. For me I get the p*** taken from Bournemouth fans, even worse! The time when I meet their fans is when I watch Somerset CCC, there’s a lot of them there and far fewer gasheads. Then most of them are ok and once they’ve stopped being condescending we get along ok! For most clubs in the PL I’m pretty sure their ambition is survival, pure and simple, the acquisition of 40 points. I guess the owners now see it as a business whilst us fans see it as a game to win and enjoy. The longer you are anywhere the higher the sense of entitlement there is and I’m not sure that any fan base is any different. Most fan groups are basically the same, full of really good people with a minority of idiots who sometimes spoil it for the rest. The only difference usually is the size of that minority, a few nights ago Liverpool’s minority took over just as Leeds did in Bournemouth. Not sure how much enjoyment, real enjoyment fans get in the PL. I always thought Bournemouth would survive but after covid I’m not sure. They’ve come back in poor form and have lost the advantage a small ground with passionate fans gives them and I fear them, with Villa and Norwich will go down. We’ll see. UTG! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jun 28, 2020 15:51:51 GMT
For what it’s worth I think he’s a decent manager - like Halifax said there’s some heavy hitters and you can’t just spend your way out of the Championship Not sure a decent manager would fail at the death every season, he seems a bottler just like Danny Wilson in the past. Although long may he stay in charge as there's always the worry that a decent manager would get them promoted. I do fear Lansdown may have had enough if they finish mid table again this season. |
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Post by lpgas1 on Jun 28, 2020 15:57:59 GMT
I remember the first seasons at twerton, crowds were around the 2,500 mark, just the hardcore left, so best not to take the water out of the 82ers regards crowds, even still their support around 82/83 was pretty sh**e considering they only had a short walk and we were playing in another city. Yep....so they said. 100% some of those attendances were more, but for tax reasons a lower gate was declared. It's the other way round now with season tickets holders counted whether they attend or not. I'm proud to say, I was amongst the lowest attendances as much as I could attend at Twerton being a working teenager. And away. Pretty much knew alot on sight in those days because we were all in together (or that's how it felt!). I missed 2 league games whilst we were at Twerton and I came down from brentford. I think the first season we had 10 postponed because of the pitch flooding? I know they were warned by the football League |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jun 28, 2020 16:10:40 GMT
Interesting views from Wareham, well remember battling Bournemouth for third division title way back , think Ted MCDOUGAL was playing for them in those days, before our usual end of season slump! i suppose that as Bournemouth have not gone mad and built a big stadium they would still fill ground even in championship? whereas if they had built 20,30,thousand seater they would have had more fair weather fans and lost more through relegation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2020 16:15:43 GMT
Yep....so they said. 100% some of those attendances were more, but for tax reasons a lower gate was declared. It's the other way round now with season tickets holders counted whether they attend or not. I'm proud to say, I was amongst the lowest attendances as much as I could attend at Twerton being a working teenager. And away. Pretty much knew alot on sight in those days because we were all in together (or that's how it felt!). I missed 2 league games whilst we were at Twerton and I came down from brentford. I think the first season we had 10 postponed because of the pitch flooding? I know they were warned by the football League Strange really as when we were at Twerton there was a way better fan atmosphere.... loads of banter ...no whining about food etc... made loads of good mates ... went home and away ... great days. Probably my favourite times supporting the Gas! |
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 28, 2020 16:37:40 GMT
For what it’s worth I think he’s a decent manager - like Halifax said there’s some heavy hitters and you can’t just spend your way out of the Championship Not sure a decent manager would fail at the death every season, he seems a bottler just like Danny Wilson in the past. Although long may he stay in charge as there's always the worry that a decent manager would get them promoted. I do fear Lansdown may have had enough if they finish mid table again this season. Perhaps. But every season there are 3 clubs coming down all having parachute payments to go with the others who have that extra finance. We moan about it not being a level playing field with Sunderland having that last season. Imagine if there are 6-8 clubs in the league all having parachute payments. It must be extra hard. UTG! |
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Post by lpgas1 on Jun 28, 2020 16:55:25 GMT
I missed 2 league games whilst we were at Twerton and I came down from brentford. I think the first season we had 10 postponed because of the pitch flooding? I know they were warned by the football League Strange really as when we were at Twerton there was a way better fan atmosphere.... loads of banter ...no whining about food etc... made loads of good mates ... went home and away ... great days. Probably my favourite times supporting the Gas! We had very little in the way of expectations at Twerton. we were just glad that we had a team to watch. when we moved back to Bristol expectation levels wnt through the roof |
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Post by rusho'gas on Jun 28, 2020 17:24:23 GMT
Today's loss is another setback in Johnsons Europe League plans. How much of his 5 year plan remains? "Bristol City head coach Lee Johnson says he wants the club to play Europa League football within five years. When asked where he sees the club in five year's time, Johnson said: "I'm going to stick my neck on the line a little bit and say Europa League." Johnson said City aim to "fast-track" efforts to emulate Swansea and Stoke, who have both featured in Europe's second-tier competition in recent years. "I believe it as well. I believe it is putting pressure on everybody at the club and we can deal with that pressure." 3rd August 2016.www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36962717Not to mention " 5 years from now, no-one will talk of Bristol Rovers........................................" Well Turncoat, we are still here and the 5 years have since passed. |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jun 28, 2020 18:10:31 GMT
Strange really as when we were at Twerton there was a way better fan atmosphere.... loads of banter ...no whining about food etc... made loads of good mates ... went home and away ... great days. Probably my favourite times supporting the Gas! We had very little in the way of expectations at Twerton. we were just glad that we had a team to watch. when we moved back to Bristol expectation levels wnt through the roof Totally agree about Twerton' they were the worst of times, they were the best of times!' expectations only went through the roof when we covered the Blackthorn end! |
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Post by blueblood1883 on Jun 28, 2020 18:19:20 GMT
Here's a thought... Why not rename this thread the Bristol City dustbin thread. Pretend we're not totally obsessed with them and post over 1300 pages of complete drivel...
Bingo..
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Post by timsburygas on Jun 28, 2020 18:44:06 GMT
Who cares how they get on, *k um..
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Post by yategasman on Jun 28, 2020 19:27:50 GMT
Who are Bristol City?
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Post by gaelgas on Jun 28, 2020 19:41:44 GMT
Interesting views from Wareham, well remember battling Bournemouth for third division title way back , think Ted MCDOUGAL was playing for them in those days, before our usual end of season slump! i suppose that as Bournemouth have not gone mad and built a big stadium they would still fill ground even in championship? whereas if they had built 20,30,thousand seater they would have had more fair weather fans and lost more through relegation. Bournemouth cant fill the 12,000 seats they have now(let that sink in, been in the Premiership 5 years and can't fill a 12,000 seater stadium) so why build anything bigger. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 28, 2020 21:54:58 GMT
Here's a thought... Why not rename this thread the Bristol City dustbin thread. Pretend we're not totally obsessed with them and post over 1300 pages of complete drivel... Bingo.. Done!! |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jun 28, 2020 22:01:24 GMT
Brilliant!
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Post by warehamgas on Jun 28, 2020 22:13:39 GMT
Interesting views from Wareham, well remember battling Bournemouth for third division title way back , think Ted MCDOUGAL was playing for them in those days, before our usual end of season slump! i suppose that as Bournemouth have not gone mad and built a big stadium they would still fill ground even in championship? whereas if they had built 20,30,thousand seater they would have had more fair weather fans and lost more through relegation. Bournemouth cant fill the 12,000 seats they have now(let that sink in, been in the Premiership 5 years and can't fill a 12,000 seater stadium) so why build anything bigger. Dean Court has a capacity of about 11,600 and this season they’ve had about 10,600-10,700 this season in league. You can see a few empty seats, often in away end. You can’t get tickets two days before because all matches are sold out and there is no POTD or even tickets available. So it’s a bit bit misleading to say they can’t fill their own stadium because clearly they do. The demand is very high. Halifax, if AFCB do go down it will be interesting to see how attendances go. There are a lot of families who go and it may have become a habit that they want to keep. Alternatively, many may be more fickle and decide they don’t want to see non-PL football and stay away. I guess that makes the next few games very, very important for them. It could get worse and they could revert to their hardcore 5000 which is what I’ve been used to for most seasons before they went up to the Championship. UTG! |
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Post by Westy on Jun 28, 2020 22:25:34 GMT
Here's a thought... Why not rename this thread the Bristol City dustbin thread. Pretend we're not totally obsessed with them and post over 1300 pages of complete drivel... Bingo.. Done!! Oh god, this'll add about 2000 pages to the dustbin thread over at the other other place, they'll be having a tiny brained headfit at this thread name 😂 |
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jun 28, 2020 23:07:53 GMT
Bournemouth cant fill the 12,000 seats they have now(let that sink in, been in the Premiership 5 years and can't fill a 12,000 seater stadium) so why build anything bigger. Dean Court has a capacity of about 11,600 and this season they’ve had about 10,600-10,700 this season in league. You can see a few empty seats, often in away end. You can’t get tickets two days before because all matches are sold out and there is no POTD or even tickets available. So it’s a bit bit misleading to say they can’t fill their own stadium because clearly they do. The demand is very high. Halifax, if AFCB do go down it will be interesting to see how attendances go. There are a lot of families who go and it may have become a habit that they want to keep. Alternatively, many may be more fickle and decide they don’t want to see non-PL football and stay away. I guess that makes the next few games very, very important for them. It could get worse and they could revert to their hardcore 5000 which is what I’ve been used to for most seasons before they went up to the Championship. UTG! Personally I don't think the crowds will drop much, if at all tbh. As a youth football coach down here, what was very noticeable when Bournemouth made the PL was the number of Bournemouth shirts that started appearing at training rather than the usual top 4 crap. It was great to see and was the same around the town as well. There was a real pride there. That's why I think progression and increased TV coverage is so important for Rovers to bring the next generation of fans through. Bournemouth have also been very good in the past at giving free or heavily discounted tickets to local football clubs when matches haven't sold out. |
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