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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Aug 11, 2020 10:08:00 GMT
Would Kieran Phillips or hulbert not fill in to be the 2nd reserve?
Play every week for the u23, JPT games and be on stand by for the first team if required.
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Post by RD on Aug 11, 2020 10:09:01 GMT
I'd be tempted to go for an older, more experienced striker - someone with real quality who probably only has a year or two (at most) left in the game. Obviously I appreciate it's an odd suggestion on the face of it, but:
1) His experience would be massive - both to the squad as a whole, but also definitely to what is a very young, inexperienced strikeforce 2) If the younger players (Daly, Ayunga etc.) all develop nicely as hoped, they will fill the void anyway (hence only needing someone for a year or two) 3) Whilst it's arguable this sort of player may cost more (last pay day sort of scenario), you could also argue that they are perhaps more desperate to get that last pay day and so may just welcome the opportunity, without being too greedy
To put it into perspective, Andy Rammell was 36 when he joined us!
I guess what I'm ultimately aiming for is someone being released by a Championship/Top League 1 club (Premiership probably a pipe-dream!) so no transfer fee, just wages.
What's Cureton up to these days?! (That's a joke BTW!)
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Post by pirate on Aug 11, 2020 10:16:03 GMT
I'd be tempted to go for an older, more experienced striker - someone with real quality who probably only has a year or two left in the game. Obviously I appreciate it's an odd suggestion on the face of it, but: 1) His experience would be massive - both to the squad as a whole, but also definitely what is a very young, inexperienced strikeforce 2) If the younger players (Daly, Ayunga etc.) all develop nicely as hoped, they will fill the void anyway (hence only needing someone for a year or two) 3) Whilst it's arguable this sort of player may cost more (last pay day), you could also argue that perhaps more desperate to get that last pay day and so may just welcome the opportunity, without being too greedy To put it to perspective, Andy Rammell was 36 when he joined us! I guess what I'm ultimately aiming for is someone being released by a Championship/Top League 1 club (Premiership probably a pipe-dream!) so no transfer fee, just wages. I agree, but doesn't fit the 'recruitment model'. Ian Henderson would have been a good signing after scoring 16, 21, and 20 goals over the past few seasons.
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Post by TugPhase on Aug 11, 2020 10:31:26 GMT
I'd be tempted to go for an older, more experienced striker - someone with real quality who probably only has a year or two (at most) left in the game. Obviously I appreciate it's an odd suggestion on the face of it, but: 1) His experience would be massive - both to the squad as a whole, but also definitely to what is a very young, inexperienced strikeforce 2) If the younger players (Daly, Ayunga etc.) all develop nicely as hoped, they will fill the void anyway (hence only needing someone for a year or two) 3) Whilst it's arguable this sort of player may cost more (last pay day sort of scenario), you could also argue that they are perhaps more desperate to get that last pay day and so may just welcome the opportunity, without being too greedy To put it into perspective, Andy Rammell was 36 when he joined us! I guess what I'm ultimately aiming for is someone being released by a Championship/Top League 1 club (Premiership probably a pipe-dream!) so no transfer fee, just wages. What's Cureton up to these days?! (That's a joke BTW!) Brett Pitman is currently without a club...
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Post by TAGas on Aug 11, 2020 10:34:05 GMT
I'd be tempted to go for an older, more experienced striker - someone with real quality who probably only has a year or two left in the game. Obviously I appreciate it's an odd suggestion on the face of it, but: 1) His experience would be massive - both to the squad as a whole, but also definitely what is a very young, inexperienced strikeforce 2) If the younger players (Daly, Ayunga etc.) all develop nicely as hoped, they will fill the void anyway (hence only needing someone for a year or two) 3) Whilst it's arguable this sort of player may cost more (last pay day), you could also argue that perhaps more desperate to get that last pay day and so may just welcome the opportunity, without being too greedy To put it to perspective, Andy Rammell was 36 when he joined us! I guess what I'm ultimately aiming for is someone being released by a Championship/Top League 1 club (Premiership probably a pipe-dream!) so no transfer fee, just wages. I agree, but doesn't fit the 'recruitment model'. Ian Henderson would have been a good signing after scoring 16, 21, and 20 goals over the past few seasons. I would have liked to have gone with someone like Brett Pitman IMO
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 11, 2020 10:35:05 GMT
I'd be tempted to go for an older, more experienced striker - someone with real quality who probably only has a year or two left in the game. Obviously I appreciate it's an odd suggestion on the face of it, but: 1) His experience would be massive - both to the squad as a whole, but also definitely what is a very young, inexperienced strikeforce 2) If the younger players (Daly, Ayunga etc.) all develop nicely as hoped, they will fill the void anyway (hence only needing someone for a year or two) 3) Whilst it's arguable this sort of player may cost more (last pay day), you could also argue that perhaps more desperate to get that last pay day and so may just welcome the opportunity, without being too greedy To put it to perspective, Andy Rammell was 36 when he joined us! I guess what I'm ultimately aiming for is someone being released by a Championship/Top League 1 club (Premiership probably a pipe-dream!) so no transfer fee, just wages. I agree, but doesn't fit the 'recruitment model'. Ian Henderson would have been a good signing after scoring 16, 21, and 20 goals over the past few seasons. I don't think Henderson would have ever moved south, completely reasonable move for him to Salford. I see Chris Martin is currently without a club, may be worth an approach.
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Post by pirate on Aug 11, 2020 10:49:06 GMT
I agree, but doesn't fit the 'recruitment model'. Ian Henderson would have been a good signing after scoring 16, 21, and 20 goals over the past few seasons. I don't think Henderson would have ever moved south, completely reasonable move for him to Salford. I see Chris Martin is currently without a club, may be worth an approach. Fair points regarding Henderson and you're probably right, as he wouldn't have to move house. Chris Martin is a good shout if affordable, but another one that probably doesn't suit the so called 'recruitment model'.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 11, 2020 10:58:21 GMT
I don't think Henderson would have ever moved south, completely reasonable move for him to Salford. I see Chris Martin is currently without a club, may be worth an approach. Fair points regarding Henderson and you're probably right, as he wouldn't have to move house. Chris Martin is a good shout if affordable, but another one that probably doesn't suit the so called 'recruitment model'. Yeah, if affordable and it's a big if I think he'd be a great signing for two seasons. Bagged 11 Championship goals last season so far from "past it", I think we'd have to offer him a fair bit though.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Aug 11, 2020 11:05:11 GMT
With the salary cap now in place it wouldn’t surprise me if we saw a lot more older players going to play abroad for the final few years of their career for one last big pay day.
Cameron Jerome or Leon Clarke wouldn’t be bad bets if we were looking for experience up top.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 11, 2020 11:06:53 GMT
I’d definitely like to see us bring in a more experienced forward who can play both out wide & through the middle.
Other than the injury-prone JCH (who may move on), no one in our current squad has scored more than 10 EFL goals across their career other than Rodman (a wingback), Bennett (who won’t play/will leave) and Ehmer (a CB).
If we don’t add another more proven forward option then I’ll be seriously concerned about where the goals are going to come from.
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Post by james246 on Aug 11, 2020 11:13:58 GMT
For me Jordy Hiwula fits the bill quick, has the ability to beat a man, flexible can play wide in a front three, or more centrally in a front two. Has plenty of experience and can get goals.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 11, 2020 12:03:31 GMT
Would Kieran Phillips or hulbert not fill in to be the 2nd reserve? Play every week for the u23, JPT games and be on stand by for the first team if required. It's a bit much expecting Academy players to replace seasoned pros Nichols & Reilly, it'll be odd if we're paying good wages for defenders and CM's then nothing on a replacement no 10, although it's apparently strikers who hold out for the best offers so perhaps we've made offers to strikers like Hiwula
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 11, 2020 12:11:10 GMT
Timmy Abraham anyone? How disappointing was he!
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 11, 2020 12:26:07 GMT
I think we do need another all-out forward but this business with Hiwula has been mentioned for a very long time on here and is going on too long. He’s been mentioned for as long as the summer chases for Clive Platt a very long time ago and for as long as the chase for James Constable in 2013 by John Ward, and we know where that ended. If he wanted to join us he’d already be here and with what we’ve already signed I suspect our wages aren’t the worst. I hope someone from BRFC is playing hardball with him and not just giving him what he wants to come here. If he’s waiting to get a better offer I’d be inclined to say “thanks but no thanks.” So what have we if we go with what we’ve got already? JCH, Daly, Ayunga, Walker, Phillips and Warwick or even others. Been a few summers when we’ve had a lot worse.
I’ve no real idea of what Wail’s hoping for this year but with what we’ve recruited something a bit more than mid-table I would have thought and for that to happen perhaps 1 more striker required. But I’m definitely not ITK!! 😉 UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 12:33:55 GMT
With the likely formation having an attacking three there will only be one spot for an out and out Number 9. This makes it hard to recruit as every player knows JCH is by far and away our first choice and they therefore have to accept being a bit part player. When I see names like Pitman the first thing for me is how much of the playing budget will be taken for a bench warmer, Bennett gets enough stick so perhaps another £5k per week journeyman would help spread the hate!
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Post by albaron on Aug 11, 2020 12:34:37 GMT
With one more addition likely maybe this will be offset against the 2 players who have been told they are not part of the plans. ie If its Bennett and another midfielde i can see another midfielder coming in. Would still like an experianced number 10 though.
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Post by spiess1 on Aug 11, 2020 13:19:14 GMT
I think we do need another all-out forward but this business with Hiwula has been mentioned for a very long time on here and is going on too long. He’s been mentioned for as long as the summer chases for Clive Platt a very long time ago and for as long as the chase for James Constable in 2013 by John Ward, and we know where that ended. If he wanted to join us he’d already be here and with what we’ve already signed I suspect our wages aren’t the worst. I hope someone from BRFC is playing hardball with him and not just giving him what he wants to come here. If he’s waiting to get a better offer I’d be inclined to say “thanks but no thanks.” So what have we if we go with what we’ve got already? JCH, Daly, Ayunga, Walker, Phillips and Warwick or even others. Been a few summers when we’ve had a lot worse. I’ve no real idea of what Wail’s hoping for this year but with what we’ve recruited something a bit more than mid-table I would have thought and for that to happen perhaps 1 more striker required. But I’m definitely not ITK!! 😉 UTG! What, after Mark McGhee gave up on him a year earlier?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 11, 2020 13:27:49 GMT
I think we do need another all-out forward but this business with Hiwula has been mentioned for a very long time on here and is going on too long. He’s been mentioned for as long as the summer chases for Clive Platt a very long time ago and for as long as the chase for James Constable in 2013 by John Ward, and we know where that ended. If he wanted to join us he’d already be here and with what we’ve already signed I suspect our wages aren’t the worst. I hope someone from BRFC is playing hardball with him and not just giving him what he wants to come here. If he’s waiting to get a better offer I’d be inclined to say “thanks but no thanks.” So what have we if we go with what we’ve got already? JCH, Daly, Ayunga, Walker, Phillips and Warwick or even others. Been a few summers when we’ve had a lot worse. I’ve no real idea of what Wail’s hoping for this year but with what we’ve recruited something a bit more than mid-table I would have thought and for that to happen perhaps 1 more striker required. But I’m definitely not ITK!! 😉 UTG! Nor me, although I would imagine his name being spelt correctly would be a start.
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Post by pirate on Aug 11, 2020 13:33:51 GMT
Ello ello, what's goin on here then!? spiess1 and GGMI, your friendly local forum police.
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Post by spiess1 on Aug 11, 2020 13:38:31 GMT
The 2 choices are: be right or be wrong. They cost the same at current prices.
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