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Post by mftc on Aug 14, 2020 12:56:48 GMT
There is a shop on Soundwell Road that sell wedding garments (blue and white quarter waistcoats etc with the club badge). How much money have they made over the years. No doubt not a penny has come Rovers way.
Similarly heard that a mine host on Glos Rd was a City season ticket holder and laughed his balls off that Rovers fans were not using the Mem but practicaly paying for his and his sons ST shirts each year.
I remember a hawker getting politely (not) asked to leave the Mem befor Wembley trying to flog the Blues are Going up merchandise. He would be selling the same gear if it was Brum or Cardiff.
Didn't Watoli make a comment that about 50% of the gear at Wembley was unofficial so we didn't get a penny?
These opportunists make money at the clubs expense. This should have stopped ages ago.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 14, 2020 13:13:46 GMT
Oh God - 300+ pages on copyright law from the specialists solicitors who are members of this forum to follow Feel free to skip the thread if you are not interested.
It is allowed.
Thanks - Didn't know that
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Post by francegas on Aug 14, 2020 13:14:11 GMT
Totally get where people are coming from regarding the £6 postage. Recently ordered a face mask (via a supporter who was making them). The mask was £6 and the postage to France was £2.87 !!
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Post by bluebiro on Aug 14, 2020 13:20:45 GMT
Perhaps if they sold what people wanted. Then there wouldn't be a market for others?apart from a child who would choose to wear leisure merchandise with a massive logo of a pirate on everything.
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Post by lavalamp on Aug 14, 2020 13:41:00 GMT
Regarding the club shop being closed - How many Division 1 club shops are actually open? I know that both Swindon and Sunderland club shops are both still currently closed. Regarding postage and packaging - How much would it anyone to travel to the club shop (in terms of time, petrol and car depreciation)? £6 isn't a vast amount and we are hardly on the same scale as Manchester United in terms of merchandise sales or the same as a high street retailer appealing to the general public. People moan that the club is losing too much money. However, to bring staff back from furlough (before the scheme ends on October) would cost the club money and also increase costs due to lighting, electricity, heating etc. Would someone buying a £6 facemask in person (to save their £6 postage) offset these increased costs? I think there are people working in the shop but it is not open to the general public! They are putting the deliveries together plus answering other queries like season tickets, streams, etc. My delivery of masks strongly indicates this because of the handwriting on the invoice inside the envelope. If one is given the choice to collect from the shop or similar, just like one collects match tickets on match days through a window, then it is up to the punter to choose? As I have said before on another thread, the £6 could be used to get a couple of pints, etc. on the way back from a collection? A good walk could also benefit? There are also quite a few supporters who live in close proximity to the club. Sales of shirts, etc. have been good to date so people are still buying items? Enough said. UTG 1 person (Clare) is working alone just 2 days a week (Monday and Thursdays), which is allowed under current rules. However, as a lone worker she can't open the shop as it's a security risk. That may change when the furlough scheme stops in October. My questions remain: - How many Division 1 club shops are open? - How much will it cost in time, petrol and depreciation to go to the club shop? (I work 3.5 miles from the club shop, by car it's a 45 minute return journey). Enough said.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 14, 2020 15:23:07 GMT
I think there are people working in the shop but it is not open to the general public! They are putting the deliveries together plus answering other queries like season tickets, streams, etc. My delivery of masks strongly indicates this because of the handwriting on the invoice inside the envelope. If one is given the choice to collect from the shop or similar, just like one collects match tickets on match days through a window, then it is up to the punter to choose? As I have said before on another thread, the £6 could be used to get a couple of pints, etc. on the way back from a collection? A good walk could also benefit? There are also quite a few supporters who live in close proximity to the club. Sales of shirts, etc. have been good to date so people are still buying items? Enough said. UTG 1 person (Clare) is working alone just 2 days a week (Monday and Thursdays), which is allowed under current rules. However, as a lone worker she can't open the shop as it's a security risk. That may change when the furlough scheme stops in October. My questions remain: - How many Division 1 club shops are open? - How much will it cost in time, petrol and depreciation to go to the club shop? (I work 3.5 miles from the club shop, by car it's a 45 minute return journey). Enough said. Enough said ? You only asked a couple of questions
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2020 16:19:02 GMT
I think there are people working in the shop but it is not open to the general public! They are putting the deliveries together plus answering other queries like season tickets, streams, etc. My delivery of masks strongly indicates this because of the handwriting on the invoice inside the envelope. If one is given the choice to collect from the shop or similar, just like one collects match tickets on match days through a window, then it is up to the punter to choose? As I have said before on another thread, the £6 could be used to get a couple of pints, etc. on the way back from a collection? A good walk could also benefit? There are also quite a few supporters who live in close proximity to the club. Sales of shirts, etc. have been good to date so people are still buying items? Enough said. UTG 1 person (Clare) is working alone just 2 days a week (Monday and Thursdays), which is allowed under current rules. However, as a lone worker she can't open the shop as it's a security risk. That may change when the furlough scheme stops in October. My questions remain: - How many Division 1 club shops are open? - How much will it cost in time, petrol and depreciation to go to the club shop? (I work 3.5 miles from the club shop, by car it's a 45 minute return journey). Enough said. Clare's ticket office, Kay's runs the shop/mail order? Regardless that doesn't explain why the club rips off fans by charging double they need to for postage, if it was just the £3 I'd have bought a £43 shirt and probably a £6 face mask, as it is the £49 is still sat in the bank, what are the club gaining from that? Last week they gave a free chocolate bar, why not offer half price postage instead?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 16:23:53 GMT
1 person (Clare) is working alone just 2 days a week (Monday and Thursdays), which is allowed under current rules. However, as a lone worker she can't open the shop as it's a security risk. That may change when the furlough scheme stops in October. My questions remain: - How many Division 1 club shops are open? - How much will it cost in time, petrol and depreciation to go to the club shop? (I work 3.5 miles from the club shop, by car it's a 45 minute return journey). Enough said. Clare's ticket office, Kay's runs the shop/mail order? Regardless that doesn't explain why the club rips off fans by charging double they need to for postage, if it was just the £3 I'd have bought a £43 shirt and probably a £6 face mask, as it is the £49 is still sat in the bank, what are the club gaining from that? Last week they gave a free chocolate bar, why not offer half price postage instead? Everybody that is moaning about the club maximising its revenue will have their details noted and the entrance fee for them will be raised by £10 a game.
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Post by lpgas1 on Aug 14, 2020 16:29:32 GMT
Can fully understand where they're coming from, but can also appreciate those who want to provide something different. If the club takes this stance, they need to be a little quicker off the mark in coming up with ideas, and new products. The face masks were an example, and have probably been the factor leading to this statement. The club didn't have any, only snoods, so somebody produced some great looking masks. Marketing department needs to up their game. Regardless of their ability to produce product in a timely manner, they are absolutely right to protect their brand and copyright. People complain about the lack of professionalism and then complain when they act professionally. Jesus Christ Its just that it has taken them over a 100years
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Post by puregas on Aug 14, 2020 16:36:56 GMT
I can't see that anybody is complaining about us acting professionally. What I, and others have pointed out is, for us to take this stance, we need to:-
1. Ensure that our product is actually what people want.
2. Be more pro-active in looking at new products and lines, before others beat us to it.
3. Make the purchasing process easier, and in terms of postage, cheaper.
If we are going to be more professional with regards to our IP, then we need to be more professional in our offer.
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Post by yaz on Aug 14, 2020 16:52:41 GMT
Clare's ticket office, Kay's runs the shop/mail order? Regardless that doesn't explain why the club rips off fans by charging double they need to for postage, if it was just the £3 I'd have bought a £43 shirt and probably a £6 face mask, as it is the £49 is still sat in the bank, what are the club gaining from that? Last week they gave a free chocolate bar, why not offer half price postage instead? Everybody that is moaning about the club maximising its revenue will have their details noted and the entrance fee for them will be raised by £10 a game. But we will still get our free pasty being a season ticket holder? No one is moaning about the club maximising it’s revenue but it can probably reduce its costs and therefore the costs passed on to fans? That would be FANtastic! It costs me about £60-£70 just to deliver myself to The Mem to watch a game; and that does not include other charges like food, beer, etc. Each fan probably has to pay a “delivery” charge to get to a game, home or away, and most fans do not complain about it? Up The Gas Petrol UTG
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 17:09:42 GMT
Everybody that is moaning about the club maximising its revenue will have their details noted and the entrance fee for them will be raised by £10 a game. But we will still get our free pasty being a season ticket holder? No one is moaning about the club maximising it’s revenue but it can probably reduce its costs and therefore the costs passed on to fans? That would be FANtastic! It costs me about £60-£70 just to deliver myself to The Mem to watch a game; and that does not include other charges like food, beer, etc. Each fan probably has to pay a “delivery” charge to get to a game, home or away, and most fans do not complain about it? Up The Gas Petrol UTG +£15 for arguing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 17:14:38 GMT
I can't see that anybody is complaining about us acting professionally. What I, and others have pointed out is, for us to take this stance, we need to:- 1. Ensure that our product is actually what people want. 2. Be more pro-active in looking at new products and lines, before others beat us to it. 3. Make the purchasing process easier, and in terms of postage, cheaper. If we are going to be more professional with regards to our IP, then we need to be more professional in our offer. That's daft. They should develop quality and attractive products that appeal to a broad cross section and maximise the revenue from them. If some fans are going to start bitching about +£3, postage or otherwise, less than a price of a pint, then it's highly unlikely that the club please them in any event.
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Post by barumgas on Aug 14, 2020 17:22:40 GMT
1 person (Clare) is working alone just 2 days a week (Monday and Thursdays), which is allowed under current rules. However, as a lone worker she can't open the shop as it's a security risk. That may change when the furlough scheme stops in October. My questions remain: - How many Division 1 club shops are open? - How much will it cost in time, petrol and depreciation to go to the club shop? (I work 3.5 miles from the club shop, by car it's a 45 minute return journey). Enough said. Clare's ticket office, Kay's runs the shop/mail order? Regardless that doesn't explain why the club rips off fans by charging double they need to for postage, if it was just the £3 I'd have bought a £43 shirt and probably a £6 face mask, as it is the £49 is still sat in the bank, what are the club gaining from that? Last week they gave a free chocolate bar, why not offer half price postage instead? Was the chocolate passed its sell by date?
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Post by yaz on Aug 14, 2020 17:31:02 GMT
Clare's ticket office, Kay's runs the shop/mail order? Regardless that doesn't explain why the club rips off fans by charging double they need to for postage, if it was just the £3 I'd have bought a £43 shirt and probably a £6 face mask, as it is the £49 is still sat in the bank, what are the club gaining from that? Last week they gave a free chocolate bar, why not offer half price postage instead? Was the chocolate passed its sell by date? And when it got put in the post did it come as Hot Chocolate? And was it Green and Black, colours of one of our away kits? It wasn’t past its sell by date; still got 2 years on the contract to run! So we lose if we don’t use!
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2020 17:33:43 GMT
Clare's ticket office, Kay's runs the shop/mail order? Regardless that doesn't explain why the club rips off fans by charging double they need to for postage, if it was just the £3 I'd have bought a £43 shirt and probably a £6 face mask, as it is the £49 is still sat in the bank, what are the club gaining from that? Last week they gave a free chocolate bar, why not offer half price postage instead? Was the chocolate passed its sell by date? Probably melted chocolate if it arrived this week!
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 14, 2020 17:34:58 GMT
I can't see that anybody is complaining about us acting professionally. What I, and others have pointed out is, for us to take this stance, we need to:- 1. Ensure that our product is actually what people want. 2. Be more pro-active in looking at new products and lines, before others beat us to it. 3. Make the purchasing process easier, and in terms of postage, cheaper. If we are going to be more professional with regards to our IP, then we need to be more professional in our offer. That's daft. They should develop quality and attractive products that appeal to a broad cross section and maximise the revenue from them. If some fans are going to start bitching about +£3, postage or otherwise, less than a price of a pint, then it's highly unlikely that the club please them in any event. They'd please me as I'd buy a shirt, I'll now just wait until I can get one p&p free at the ground.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 18:02:14 GMT
That's daft. They should develop quality and attractive products that appeal to a broad cross section and maximise the revenue from them. If some fans are going to start bitching about +£3, postage or otherwise, less than a price of a pint, then it's highly unlikely that the club please them in any event. They'd please me as I'd buy a shirt, I'll now just wait until I can get one p&p free at the ground. Good. Cuts the processing time and cost.
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Post by swissgas on Aug 14, 2020 18:13:41 GMT
Clare's ticket office, Kay's runs the shop/mail order? Regardless that doesn't explain why the club rips off fans by charging double they need to for postage, if it was just the £3 I'd have bought a £43 shirt and probably a £6 face mask, as it is the £49 is still sat in the bank, what are the club gaining from that? Last week they gave a free chocolate bar, why not offer half price postage instead? Everybody that is moaning about the club maximising its revenue will have their details noted and the entrance fee for them will be raised by £10 a game. Is this the start of the NWO ? (New World Oldie)
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Post by althepirate on Aug 14, 2020 18:31:43 GMT
They should get hold of the best counterfeiter and put them in charge.
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