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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 16:14:54 GMT
Daniel how many Rovers games do you expect to watch live this season? It's OK being Mr Positive sat at home following Rovers on your electronic device, somewhat different actually paying good money watching us lose every game. Crickey, we lost for the first time since March and we’re already talking about us losing every game! As a Rovers fan I struggle to write off friendly results because, In recent memory, we have carried our pre-season results into the new season (mind you, as a club we seem to traditionally start badly. When was the last time we made a strong start?). Added to Garner’s previous record which, fortunately for him, seems to have been expunged from some people’s memory and I’m not at all confident especially given our tough start. Conceding 4 to a side from the league below is not a good sign imo. |
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Post by RD on Aug 22, 2020 16:16:57 GMT
I think the reason that some people are concerned by the performance are that they fully believed Garner was well out of his depth last season.
We've signed some decent players on paper, but they won't be any good to us if the gaffer isn't a capable manager.
Fully expect to be torn to shreds by the "how dare you say anything remotely negative about Garner" brigade, but I think a few people have conveniently forgotten just how unbelievably woeful we were under him last season.
Of course it doesn't mean he can't/won't turn it around, but I think it's unfair to lambast those who are a bit panicky, even if it is "just a meaningless pre-season friendly".
It's possible it won't be a reflection at all of what's to come - equally it could be. Only time will tell. My point is that last season was terrible and the off-season doesn't simply undo that.
Some people will understandably have concerns. Whether they turn out to be justified is of course another matter entirely.
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Post by alanrg on Aug 22, 2020 16:22:58 GMT
The simple reason why we conceded 4 goals was down 2 the awful conditions and the match being played at there training ground which was open 2 the elements
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Post by RD on Aug 22, 2020 16:25:31 GMT
The simple reason why we conceded 4 goals was down 2 the awful conditions and the match being played at there training ground which was open 2 the elements Agreed. Its a disgrace that FGR weren't made to play in the same conditions. |
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Post by axegas on Aug 22, 2020 16:31:46 GMT
The simple reason why we conceded 4 goals was down 2 the awful conditions and the match being played at there training ground which was open 2 the elements Nonsense, both sides had to play under the same conditions. The goals conceded were entirely our fault, for two of them we gave away silly free kicks in good areas and for the other two we let them have far too much space and time in behind. |
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Post by Gassy on Aug 22, 2020 16:34:32 GMT
Crickey, we lost for the first time since March and we’re already talking about us losing every game! As a Rovers fan I struggle to write off friendly results because, In recent memory, we have carried our pre-season results into the new season (mind you, as a club we seem to traditionally start badly. When was the last time we made a strong start?). Added to Garner’s previous record which, fortunately for him, seems to have been expunged from some people’s memory and I’m not at all confident especially given our tough start. Conceding 4 to a side from the league below is not a good sign imo. And if we go on to lose every friendly from now until Sunderland, i’d agree with you. Personally I won’t be worrying about the first loss so far in a friendly. |
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Post by Okebournegas on Aug 22, 2020 16:36:59 GMT
God I’ve missed this place
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Post by roosty56 on Aug 22, 2020 16:39:22 GMT
Back in the day , I remember Wolves managed by Mick McCarthy lost heavily to a non league team in a pre season friendly, Wolves went on to win the league, Just saying ....
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Post by rememberhalifax on Aug 22, 2020 16:54:45 GMT
Another useful training exercise against a good league 2 side, sure the coaches are learning all the time about new signings and trialist's and when the big kick off comes they should know there preferred starting 11 and bench, good to hear JCH among goals hope it cheers him up! yes i am a rose tinter but that's preferable to being one who is itching for Ben Garner to fail isn't it? up the Rovers!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 16:57:28 GMT
Daniel how many Rovers games do you expect to watch live this season? It's OK being Mr Positive sat at home following Rovers on your electronic device, somewhat different actually paying good money watching us lose every game. Crickey, we lost for the first time since March and we’re already talking about us losing every game! Bloody daft isn't it |
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 22, 2020 17:16:27 GMT
As a Rovers fan I struggle to write off friendly results because, In recent memory, we have carried our pre-season results into the new season (mind you, as a club we seem to traditionally start badly. When was the last time we made a strong start?). Added to Garner’s previous record which, fortunately for him, seems to have been expunged from some people’s memory and I’m not at all confident especially given our tough start. Conceding 4 to a side from the league below is not a good sign imo. And if we go on to lose every friendly from now until Sunderland, i’d agree with you. Personally I won’t be worrying about the first loss so far in a friendly. Unless we've our first mid week friendly of this pre-season next week then we've only got the one friendly to go next Saturday, then it's Ipswich away in the cup. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 17:20:00 GMT
It may’ve only been a friendly as were the other ones before but I’ve seen nothing in terms of a style or structure in any game. I think BG has a plan in his head but doesn’t know how to translate it to the players. Seems we will still be trying to install his style for the first 10 matches which may be too late. Watching today just looked as crap as most of his games last season. Hope I’m wrong but BG isn’t the one to lead us to top 6.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 22, 2020 17:21:06 GMT
Another useful training exercise against a good league 2 side, sure the coaches are learning all the time about new signings and trialist's and when the big kick off comes they should know there preferred starting 11 and bench, good to hear JCH among goals hope it cheers him up! yes i am a rose tinter but that's preferable to being one who is itching for Ben Garner to fail isn't it? up the Rovers! Apart from the right wing back today's starting 11 looks pretty much like the starting 11 for the start of the season, the trialist didn't make an appearance until the game was already lost. Nobody is itching for BG to fail on this thread just want us to actually start winning games and not getting thrashed away from home every match. |
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Post by CrispPusher on Aug 22, 2020 17:31:20 GMT
The simple reason why we conceded 4 goals was down 2 the awful conditions and the match being played at there training ground which was open 2 the elements Does the G in your username stand for Garner? |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 22, 2020 17:32:59 GMT
Started already😂. A Full strength Everton went 3 0 down to Blackpool after 11 minutes. These games mean nothing. It's about trying new things and building fitness levels. Daniel how many Rovers games do you expect to watch live this season? It's OK being Mr Positive sat at home following Rovers on your electronic device, somewhat different actually paying good money watching us lose every game. I don't think anyone knows how many games they can go to. I go to games when I can. Atleast when you go to a game you can have a free drinks and have the pre match experience. I would much prefer to be at games, but don't know what that's got to do with anything. I'm probably more annoyed when we lose, when I'm at home. I'm not being Mr positive just because I said it's a friendly. But it's better than being like you, when by the sounds of it, you didn't even attempt to watch it anyway. So why are you moaning already, when you didn't even watch it?? |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 22, 2020 17:35:36 GMT
Started already😂. A Full strength Everton went 3 0 down to Blackpool after 11 minutes. These games mean nothing. It's about trying new things and building fitness levels. like winning? (tongue in cheek btw) We tried that against Exeter😂 |
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 22, 2020 17:35:56 GMT
I gave up watching half way through the second half because the streaming was so poor. From what I saw of the match we did not have much physical presence, I am not sure how JCH managed to get two goals he received appalling service. It was clear that we missed AO in midfield, I doubt our manager will see it that way since he puts style over effectiveness. I think our formation should be 5-3-2 with JA alongside JCH up front I agree that we seemed to lack the bite in midfield that Abu Ogogo has given us in the past.
I don't want to over-react from a pre-season game that I could only see 50% of, but from what I saw we struggled to get out of our half for much of the game because FGR pressed our back line throughout.
From what I've seen, Abs is a (much) better player than any of our triallists. IMO we need to reverse the decision to let him go.
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Post by lpgas1 on Aug 22, 2020 17:39:33 GMT
The thing about Ben's team is do we have the strength, I thought we were out muscled today especially the first half. Also I hope we don't have to put up with stat's like 'we had 50% possession when most of the possession was in our half. Weve told the strong man (Ogogo) to leave |
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Post by lpgas1 on Aug 22, 2020 17:41:04 GMT
The simple reason why we conceded 4 goals was down 2 the awful conditions and the match being played at there training ground which was open 2 the elements You mean like the Tent end at the Mem? |
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 22, 2020 17:42:45 GMT
Swindon beat Coventry the other day and then they lost to Ashton today 4 3. They were 4 1 down at half time. Does that mean that are going to challenge?? Or does it mean they are going to get hammered every week as well???
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