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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 2, 2020 17:34:48 GMT
Garner in his interview says that he has faith in these players, the question is do they have faith in him, it doesn't look like it so far, is that why he cleared out the senior pro's because they asked to many questions of his formations and tactics. His comments on key decisions going against him and the team and a game of fine margins is ridiculous, you make your own luck by having a good go at whatever team your up against. I fell off my chair when he said there were positives following the Doncaster defeat, we got spannered 4-1, what's positive about that and as for the Byron Anthony comment about he wasn't sure what role he would play at the club was embarrassing. Then he mentioned his past Premier League involvement, Keith Curle sums him up in his Northampton Town pre match interview today referring to Garner as Crystal Palace academy coach Gary Issott's assistant academy coach. How the hell having being unemployed for 7 months after Calcutta did we land upon him as manager, what were is credentials that stood out above other candidates (were there any) surely on job interview someone must have detected Garner sounded like a hospital anesthetist just before he asks you to count to 10 and gives you a jab to put you to sleep. 8 games this month, a tall order for Garner and a young inexperienced team with him as manager battling not only the opposition but the elements as well. The players do have faith in him. He has senior pro's in the leadership group - would he do this if he was afraid of them asking too many questions? Maybe he trusts Chris Hargreaves enough to give him autonomy when it comes to hiring part-time coaching staff for the younger age groups? Chris is aware of the style of play the club want to develop, so he will make sure any appointed staff meet the overall brief. Can you list the senior pros in the first team outfield players on Saturday i.e. players over 28? I make it just Ehmer and he's the captain so he's unlikely to challenge anything BG wants the players to do.
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Post by rovers69 on Oct 2, 2020 17:40:31 GMT
The negatives wont go away-they will whinge and moan and claim they know best -but at least Garner is here for two seasons to prove them wrong and send them back into the abiss from where they crawled. Happy Days UTG
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Post by althepirate on Oct 2, 2020 17:45:16 GMT
The negatives wont go away-they will whinge and moan and claim they know best -but at least Garner is here for two seasons to prove them wrong and send them back into the abiss from where they crawled. Happy Days UTG Perhaps you can list the positives please.
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Post by rovers69 on Oct 2, 2020 17:49:38 GMT
Ben Garner/Training Ground/Academy Set Up/New Ground to come/Talented group of young players who want to learn and back BG/Trump has got Covid
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Post by socrates on Oct 2, 2020 17:55:45 GMT
I think if you read my posts you'll see that's the opposite of what I'm saying. It's clear that regardless of how early on in the season it is our aspiration should always be to finish in a nothing position about 10th (pushing it to be honest) to 16th. Any ideas that we might be competitive in the league we're in are stupid we need realism. We need to bumble around the bottom till Christmas and then smash a sweet sweet mid-table finish from January onwards. UTG (but not too far). Apologies if I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but for me at least, I'm not saying our aspiration should be to finish 10th to 16th. I'm saying that is my expectation. In my mind, aspirations and expectations are two very different things, but perhaps these are getting confused on here. I personally would aspire to become a mill-yun-aire by next year a la Del Boy, but do I expect to become one? No. This time next year if I've done alright for myself, achieved what I expected, but not what I aspired for, then I wouldn't be too disappointed. Same goes for the Gas. I do agree with you that we should aspire to finish top 6, hell if we're aspiring why not aspire to finish top of the league? However, that aspiration comes together with a realism that I do not expect us to finish top 6, so I would not be throwing my toys out of the pram and demanding change if we finished, say, 10th. It might not be exciting, but that wouldn't be a disaster for a club of our current stature. Finally, as my expectation is to at least finish midtable, I am in no way making excuses for our poor performances and results so far this season. It is not good enough and the manager has been performing way way below par. I get what your saying. I think every club start the season off wanting to finish as high as possible. What we want and what we expect aren’t always the same thing.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Oct 2, 2020 17:55:58 GMT
The negatives wont go away-they will whinge and moan and claim they know best -but at least Garner is here for two seasons to prove them wrong and send them back into the abiss from where they crawled. Happy Days UTG Perhaps you can list the positives please. This thread proves that there are people who truly believe that wishful thinking is all that is needed for everything to be fantastic with the world. Don’t need ability, substance, intelligence or even basic competence to succeed, only wishful thinking is needed and the ability to slag off people who aren’t also so simple minded. It’s the way of the world these days.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 2, 2020 17:56:40 GMT
Ben Garner/Training Ground/Academy Set Up/New Ground to come/Talented group of young players who want to learn and back BG/Trump has got Covid How do you know they back BG? If they do then just how bad will they be if they decide not to back him? I sense your talking total b0ll0cks about a new ground, CV19 seems to have well and truly killed any signs of that happening anytime soon.
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Post by althepirate on Oct 2, 2020 17:57:17 GMT
Ben Garner/Training Ground/Academy Set Up/New Ground to come/Talented group of young players who want to learn and back BG/Trump has got Covid Sorry but all that is hope which we all had/have. As you call your fellow Gasheads negatives what's our actual achievements under Ben?
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Post by RD on Oct 2, 2020 18:01:17 GMT
The negatives wont go away-they will whinge and moan and claim they know best -but at least Garner is here for two seasons to prove them wrong and send them back into the abiss from where they crawled. Happy Days UTG Something really really smells.....
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Post by RD on Oct 2, 2020 18:01:43 GMT
Perhaps you can list the positives please. This thread proves that there are people who truly believe that wishful thinking is all that is needed for everything to be fantastic with the world. Don’t need ability, substance, intelligence or even basic competence to succeed, only wishful thinking is needed and the ability to slag off people who aren’t also so simple minded. It’s the way of the world these days. Bang on!!
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Post by rovers69 on Oct 2, 2020 18:04:22 GMT
The Negatives are small in number and not true gas heads. Achievements of Garner will be mid table this season and top six next. The negatives will turn and become positives and then start to complain that we need to keep BG as Championships come in for him.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Oct 2, 2020 18:06:41 GMT
Pre season aspirations: play off spot Current expectations: relegation
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Post by Feeling The Blues on Oct 2, 2020 18:13:01 GMT
The Negatives are small in number and not true gas heads. Achievements of Garner will be mid table this season and top six next. The negatives will turn and become positives and then start to complain that we need to keep BG as Championships come in for him. Go back to your own forum mucker.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Oct 2, 2020 18:17:08 GMT
Let's be honest this has absolutely nothing to do with his press conference and everything to do with results. If he didnt have such an awful record nobody would have been critical of it in the slightest. Win the next 5 (stop sniggering at the back) and his pre match chats will suddenly become less relevant, that's what football fans do
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Post by rovers69 on Oct 2, 2020 18:18:49 GMT
as they say truth always hurts-i am on the right forum
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Oct 2, 2020 18:21:30 GMT
Perhaps you can list the positives please. This thread proves that there are people who truly believe that wishful thinking is all that is needed for everything to be fantastic with the world. Don’t need ability, substance, intelligence or even basic competence to succeed, only wishful thinking is needed and the ability to slag off people who aren’t also so simple minded. It’s the way of the world these days. You will when you believe.
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Post by althepirate on Oct 2, 2020 18:22:30 GMT
as they say truth always hurts-i am on the right forum Truth is what's happened not what could happen
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Post by RD on Oct 2, 2020 18:23:26 GMT
as they say truth always hurts-i am on the right forum Obvious shithead. Get a life
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Post by rovers69 on Oct 2, 2020 18:33:33 GMT
maybe u r a shithead-maybe you need to get a life
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Post by petegas on Oct 2, 2020 18:47:53 GMT
The Negatives are small in number and not true gas heads. Achievements of Garner will be mid table this season and top six next. The negatives will turn and become positives and then start to complain that we need to keep BG as Championships come in for him. Thanks for this Ben, good to see you on here sticking up for yourself.
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