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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 21:57:59 GMT
You said, you see homelessness, drug addiction, mental health and other issues affecting huge amounts of people and no one does anything about it. I am honestly up for that discussion, but I have reservations about you as a poster, so fear I'd be wasting my time. No offence intended.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 7, 2020 22:08:31 GMT
You said, you see homelessness, drug addiction, mental health and other issues affecting huge amounts of people and no one does anything about it. I am honestly up for that discussion, but I have reservations about you as a poster, so fear I'd be wasting my time. No offence intended. Why do you have reservations? Just because my views on a couple of issues may be different to yours?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2020 22:30:14 GMT
I am honestly up for that discussion, but I have reservations about you as a poster, so fear I'd be wasting my time. No offence intended. Why do you have reservations? Just because my views on a couple of issues may be different to yours? You've come across as more interested in de-railing a thread/argument than offering your opinion, from what I recall. Think you were posting long videos trying to explain your point in the George Floyd thread... I just prefer more concise to the point arguments.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 7, 2020 22:41:20 GMT
Why do you have reservations? Just because my views on a couple of issues may be different to yours? You've come across as more interested in de-railing a thread/argument than offering your opinion, from what I recall. Think you were posting long videos trying to explain your point in the George Floyd thread... I just prefer more concise to the point arguments. Eh? I wasn't posting long videos at all, I posted my points perfectly fine, it's just that you didn't like them. Judging from your posts it seems that you think of yourself as a bastion of Social and racial Justice and equality especially on the George Floyd thread, yet when somebody from a minority background disagrees with your points, you have reservations about them and dismiss them, which you've already stated. Right on my friend, must be the wrong kind.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 12:35:23 GMT
You've come across as more interested in de-railing a thread/argument than offering your opinion, from what I recall. Think you were posting long videos trying to explain your point in the George Floyd thread... I just prefer more concise to the point arguments. Eh? I wasn't posting long videos at all, I posted my points perfectly fine, it's just that you didn't like them. Judging from your posts it seems that you think of yourself as a bastion of Social and racial Justice and equality especially on the George Floyd thread, yet when somebody from a minority background disagrees with your points, you have reservations about them and dismiss them, which you've already stated. Right on my friend, must be the wrong kind. Dunno, you were just posting David icke vids 10mins + long with little else, not hard to summarise in a sentence or two is it? Saves time. Didn't take you long to mention SJWs, next you'll be barking about other anti-left tropes like Marxism, LGBT rights, trans toilets, wokeism! Those things that selfish people just can't comprehend. Are you a minority? Does that make you an expert in oppression? Are you insinuating that everyone who looks the same, are the same? That sounds like prejudice to me. As I'm on a rant I'll answer your troll question. "What am 'I' doing about rampant homelessness, drug addiction and mental health problems" Do you honestly believe one average individual can have an impact on those issues? The average family working just to get by themselves. You may moan on here about bristol rovers getting thumped, what are you going to do about that problem? There is supposed to be a government to deal with national issues, but they don't appear to be doing much, why would they if no one holds them to account? To fix the problems I mentioned would take a systematic effort, that very few appear to care about in this country, hence my amusement at flag worshipping. I'd quite happily pay more taxes to fix the problems, but my extra contributions wouldn't fix it alone. Instead people want to gather as much money as possible so they can have the latest Mercs/beemers, £60 steaks, £1,500 tag watches and designer rags. My simple view is that people see money as power and are addicted to obtaining it, regardless of who it harms.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 13:03:47 GMT
Eh? I wasn't posting long videos at all, I posted my points perfectly fine, it's just that you didn't like them. Judging from your posts it seems that you think of yourself as a bastion of Social and racial Justice and equality especially on the George Floyd thread, yet when somebody from a minority background disagrees with your points, you have reservations about them and dismiss them, which you've already stated. Right on my friend, must be the wrong kind. Dunno, you were just posting David icke vids 10mins + long with little else, not hard to summarise in a sentence or two is it? Saves time. Didn't take you long to mention SJWs, next you'll be barking about other anti-left tropes like Marxism, LGBT rights, trans toilets, wokeism! Those things that selfish people just can't comprehend. Are you a minority? Does that make you an expert in oppression? Are you insinuating that everyone who looks the same, are the same? That sounds like prejudice to me. As I'm on a rant I'll answer your troll question. "What am 'I' doing about rampant homelessness, drug addiction and mental health problems" Do you honestly believe one average individual can have an impact on those issues? The average family working just to get by themselves. You may moan on here about bristol rovers getting thumped, what are you going to do about that problem? There is supposed to be a government to deal with national issues, but they don't appear to be doing much, why would they if no one holds them to account? To fix the problems I mentioned would take a systematic effort, that very few appear to care about in this country, hence my amusement at flag worshipping. I'd quite happily pay more taxes to fix the problems, but my extra contributions wouldn't fix it alone. Instead people want to gather as much money as possible so they can have the latest Mercs/beemers, £60 steaks, £1,500 tag watches and designer rags. My simple view is that people see money as power and are addicted to obtaining it, regardless of who it harms. This is going to be interesting. The points raised transcending specific thread topics.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 8, 2020 13:37:48 GMT
Eh? I wasn't posting long videos at all, I posted my points perfectly fine, it's just that you didn't like them. Judging from your posts it seems that you think of yourself as a bastion of Social and racial Justice and equality especially on the George Floyd thread, yet when somebody from a minority background disagrees with your points, you have reservations about them and dismiss them, which you've already stated. Right on my friend, must be the wrong kind. Dunno, you were just posting David icke vids 10mins + long with little else, not hard to summarise in a sentence or two is it? Saves time. Didn't take you long to mention SJWs, next you'll be barking about other anti-left tropes like Marxism, LGBT rights, trans toilets, wokeism! Those things that selfish people just can't comprehend. Are you a minority? Does that make you an expert in oppression? Are you insinuating that everyone who looks the same, are the same? That sounds like prejudice to me. As I'm on a rant I'll answer your troll question. "What am 'I' doing about rampant homelessness, drug addiction and mental health problems" Do you honestly believe one average individual can have an impact on those issues? The average family working just to get by themselves. You may moan on here about bristol rovers getting thumped, what are you going to do about that problem? There is supposed to be a government to deal with national issues, but they don't appear to be doing much, why would they if no one holds them to account? To fix the problems I mentioned would take a systematic effort, that very few appear to care about in this country, hence my amusement at flag worshipping. I'd quite happily pay more taxes to fix the problems, but my extra contributions wouldn't fix it alone. Instead people want to gather as much money as possible so they can have the latest Mercs/beemers, £60 steaks, £1,500 tag watches and designer rags. My simple view is that people see money as power and are addicted to obtaining it, regardless of who it harms. I did summarise it in a few sentences, I just stated that I recently came across the David Icke interview on Terry Wogans show about 30 years ago, Oldie asked the question, such as? So I posted the video. That's all. There you go, jumping the gun again. I've never claimed to be an expert. I think its you who seems to have a prejudice, you've said you refuse to listen to and have reservations about people from ethnic or minority backgrounds just because they may not share the same views on everything as you do. You said that nobody does anything about homelessness, drug addiction and mental health issues, thats why I asked you what you do, and as I suspected, you dont do anything either, because as you stated what can an average individual do, when the average family needs to get by themselves. Just seems strange to have that high & mighty, Ivory Tower attitude, when you're no different.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 13:44:29 GMT
Dunno, you were just posting David icke vids 10mins + long with little else, not hard to summarise in a sentence or two is it? Saves time. Didn't take you long to mention SJWs, next you'll be barking about other anti-left tropes like Marxism, LGBT rights, trans toilets, wokeism! Those things that selfish people just can't comprehend. Are you a minority? Does that make you an expert in oppression? Are you insinuating that everyone who looks the same, are the same? That sounds like prejudice to me. As I'm on a rant I'll answer your troll question. "What am 'I' doing about rampant homelessness, drug addiction and mental health problems" Do you honestly believe one average individual can have an impact on those issues? The average family working just to get by themselves. You may moan on here about bristol rovers getting thumped, what are you going to do about that problem? There is supposed to be a government to deal with national issues, but they don't appear to be doing much, why would they if no one holds them to account? To fix the problems I mentioned would take a systematic effort, that very few appear to care about in this country, hence my amusement at flag worshipping. I'd quite happily pay more taxes to fix the problems, but my extra contributions wouldn't fix it alone. Instead people want to gather as much money as possible so they can have the latest Mercs/beemers, £60 steaks, £1,500 tag watches and designer rags. My simple view is that people see money as power and are addicted to obtaining it, regardless of who it harms. This is going to be interesting. The points raised transcending specific thread topics. Just opinions at the end of the day. If someone expresses theirs I don't see it as lecturing... But evidently gastafari does.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 13:49:27 GMT
This is going to be interesting. The points raised transcending specific thread topics. Just opinions at the end of the day. If someone expresses theirs I don't see it as lecturing... But evidently gastafari does. In my opinion Gastafari has an unfortunate way of expressing him/her self.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 14:00:06 GMT
Dunno, you were just posting David icke vids 10mins + long with little else, not hard to summarise in a sentence or two is it? Saves time. Didn't take you long to mention SJWs, next you'll be barking about other anti-left tropes like Marxism, LGBT rights, trans toilets, wokeism! Those things that selfish people just can't comprehend. Are you a minority? Does that make you an expert in oppression? Are you insinuating that everyone who looks the same, are the same? That sounds like prejudice to me. As I'm on a rant I'll answer your troll question. "What am 'I' doing about rampant homelessness, drug addiction and mental health problems" Do you honestly believe one average individual can have an impact on those issues? The average family working just to get by themselves. You may moan on here about bristol rovers getting thumped, what are you going to do about that problem? There is supposed to be a government to deal with national issues, but they don't appear to be doing much, why would they if no one holds them to account? To fix the problems I mentioned would take a systematic effort, that very few appear to care about in this country, hence my amusement at flag worshipping. I'd quite happily pay more taxes to fix the problems, but my extra contributions wouldn't fix it alone. Instead people want to gather as much money as possible so they can have the latest Mercs/beemers, £60 steaks, £1,500 tag watches and designer rags. My simple view is that people see money as power and are addicted to obtaining it, regardless of who it harms. I did summarise it in a few sentences, I just stated that I recently came across the David Icke interview on Terry Wogans show about 30 years ago, Oldie asked the question, such as? So I posted the video. That's all. There you go, jumping the gun again. I've never claimed to be an expert. I think its you who seems to have a prejudice, you've said you refuse to listen to and have reservations about people from ethnic or minority backgrounds just because they may not share the same views on everything as you do. You said that nobody does anything about homelessness, drug addiction and mental health issues, thats why I asked you what you do, and as I suspected, you dont do anything either, because as you stated what can an average individual do, when the average family needs to get by themselves. Just seems strange to have that high & mighty, Ivory Tower attitude, when you're no different. Said I have reservations about you as a poster due to any discourse between us turning to tedious dead ends, I even said it wasn't personal. You resorting to the lame duck 'virtue signalling' argument backs that up. Careful you don't complain about anything in the future, you wouldn't want to end up on the pedestal you've put me on.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 8, 2020 14:14:09 GMT
I did summarise it in a few sentences, I just stated that I recently came across the David Icke interview on Terry Wogans show about 30 years ago, Oldie asked the question, such as? So I posted the video. That's all. There you go, jumping the gun again. I've never claimed to be an expert. I think its you who seems to have a prejudice, you've said you refuse to listen to and have reservations about people from ethnic or minority backgrounds just because they may not share the same views on everything as you do. You said that nobody does anything about homelessness, drug addiction and mental health issues, thats why I asked you what you do, and as I suspected, you dont do anything either, because as you stated what can an average individual do, when the average family needs to get by themselves. Just seems strange to have that high & mighty, Ivory Tower attitude, when you're no different. Said I have reservations about you as a poster due to any discourse between us turning to tedious dead ends, I even said it wasn't personal. You resorting to the lame duck 'virtue signalling' argument backs that up. Careful you don't complain about anything in the future, you wouldn't want to end up on the pedestal you've put me on. It's one thing complaining, but to basically say that this country is full of flag worshipping scum with racist ideologies for not doing anything about Homelessness, drug addiction and mental health, when you do diddly squat yourself is a bit much.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 18:24:01 GMT
Just opinions at the end of the day. If someone expresses theirs I don't see it as lecturing... But evidently gastafari does. In my opinion Gastafari has an unfortunate way of expressing him/her self. Turned out to be reactionary nonsense, as expected.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2020 18:34:35 GMT
In my opinion Gastafari has an unfortunate way of expressing him/her self. Turned out to be reactionary nonsense, as expected. Seems to be enthralled with romantic Libertarians. Not the truth.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 8, 2020 19:04:58 GMT
In my opinion Gastafari has an unfortunate way of expressing him/her self. Turned out to be reactionary nonsense, as expected. It doesn't make people a reactionary just because they disagree with your warped view of events. The George Floyd thread especially.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 8, 2020 19:24:15 GMT
Turned out to be reactionary nonsense, as expected. Seems to be enthralled with romantic Libertarians. Not the truth. What is the truth then, Oldie? I've only mentioned a couple, who would probably be classed as libertarians. I've only really got involved in the George Floyd thread, because as a person who is now deemed "A person of Colour" and falls into the newly formed "BAME" category, a lot of the nonsense being spouted on that thread, attracted my attention. I haven't got involved in your petty Left vs Right arguments on the Brexit or Government threads, because it doesn't really interest me, Tory and Labour are both a joke, as far as i'm concerned. So tell me, what's exactly wrong with having a Libertarian stance, especially socially, whats wrong with believing in freedom of choice and individualism? Or believing in Political freedom? What's wrong with being sceptical of authority? Or of state and governmental power? I think the majority of people have very strong Libertarian views, especially socially.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2020 7:26:01 GMT
Turned out to be reactionary nonsense, as expected. Seems to be enthralled with romantic Libertarians. Not the truth. Ha, so he's giving me sh1t for being anticap, when his great plan is... Not paying taxes.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 9, 2020 11:44:22 GMT
Seems to be enthralled with romantic Libertarians. Not the truth. Ha, so he's giving me sh1t for being anticap, when his great plan is... Not paying taxes. Whose giving you sh** for being anti-cap? Why do you lie and make stuff up? It's a recurring theme.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2020 12:15:48 GMT
Ha, so he's giving me sh1t for being anticap, when his great plan is... Not paying taxes. Whose giving you sh** for being anti-cap? Why do you lie and make stuff up? It's a recurring theme. You, claiming that highlighting social issues is virtue signalling. Capitalism doesn't work for the poorest and neediest, we all know that, you can't deal with it, so claim anyone who highlights the problems should fix it themselves. It's an idiotic argument that I see a lot on here so wanted to discuss it. Do you wear a poppy? If so you are insinuating that's virtue signalling, as the poppy represents innocent lives lost in war, but you do nothing to prevent war.
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Post by Gastafari on Nov 9, 2020 12:43:07 GMT
Whose giving you sh** for being anti-cap? Why do you lie and make stuff up? It's a recurring theme. You, claiming that highlighting social issues is virtue signalling. Capitalism doesn't work for the poorest and neediest, we all know that, you can't deal with it, so claim anyone who highlights the problems should fix it themselves. It's an idiotic argument that I see a lot on here so wanted to discuss it. Do you wear a poppy? If so you are insinuating that's virtue signalling, as the poppy represents innocent lives lost in war, but you do nothing to prevent war. Again, where have I done that? Making even more stuff up. Yet again. I've never mentioned capitalism once, that's the thing with weirdly pigeon holing people, which you do very reguarly. It makes you come across as an absolute (I'm not saying you are) My issue was merely you basically calling people racist, bootlicking Flag worshippers, while admitting that you don't do, what you were criticising them for not doing. Whats a Poppy got to do with anything?That is a complete different issue anyway. You're sounding very much like that Femi Oluwole, he's a tit.
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Post by pirate on Nov 9, 2020 13:20:43 GMT
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