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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 15, 2020 8:51:17 GMT
Anyone else woken up this morning feeling extremely excited about what’s coming up? I was one of the fans who where as others weren’t keen when BG got the job I was very positive and welcomed his appointment (sorry guys 🙁) However even I kinda lost faith in him as this season went on. The thing that excites me this morning and probably the reason your excited too is that where as in the past a manager has been sacked even though the manager made mistakes you looked at the squad and thought “this is going to need a clear out with the squad” however IMO this is one of the best squads we have had for awhile and while we haven’t from the games I’ve seen had a complete 90 minutes performance yet even the most critical fans of BG must be able to admit that there are signs in games that we can get the ball down and look excellent in the final third albeit sadly not enough times during games. I think this team can still play a Covenrty City style by getting the ball down and playing but I think if the truth was known BG wanted them to play a similer style but with certain Premier league tweaks which was made the player complicated. That’s why I’m hoping that if Paul Cook is one of our targets he might have been watching us yesterday and be thinking that the First half was poor but parts of second half there were the signs that this squad is good enough as you fans could see from the goal we scored which is what we need to see more often and thought “I could work with this guys no problem”. Unless your excited because you just nabbed a PS5 on pre-order!! 😗😗 I agree with this. Normally when we sack a manager we are in deep relegation trouble and its clear that we need to sign a number of players in January to help keep us up. This time I feel the players we have are good enough for us to be a mid table team. We just need a couple more experienced players and a manager who will use some more realistic tactics for this level. BG had the right idea, but it just doesn't work at this level. I think any potential managers will like the look of what they have available to keep them going to January until they can make a few changes. |
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Nov 15, 2020 9:23:55 GMT
So those of us that were saying 10 games weren't so far off after all.
I'm gutted it didn't work, we have the team and we had the manager with the "plan" for us to play well, challenge against the best and get up the table.
I hold my hands up he sold it to me, I was one of those that ticked the top 10 box on the survey, and I was holding back, inside I wanted a top 6 finish.
So what now?
For me realism has hit home, its very unlikely to happen this season, another gas season of who knows what, the plan is lost and a new manager will be in with a different plan that will, no doubt, need time to bed into a team that have only just started playing as a team that have been playing to a different plan from a manager that had no experience as a manager... only Bristol Rovers...
In my opinion we need a manager with experience this time, the experiment failed, we need somebody with experience who can, at the least, keep us in league one and that's the minimum we can hope for.
We need a striker, somebody with a proven track record, I posted on here a little while ago that the plan was to not make a knee jerk reaction and buy a forward just for the sake of it and that the plan was to wait it out and plan for the January window, I firmly believe the wheels are already in motion on this and that preliminary talks have already taken place.
JCH?
He's gone
Get over it
But we should never have let him go i hear you cry.
He didnt want to stay
There will be other JCH's
And, with the right passing play we will get Hanlan performing, You can see how hungry he is, and the way he runs at the defence, is a strong, brutal forward that will prove to be a force too be reckoned with.
The manager has gone but the team is still there.
with the right manager I think we could still be a top half table team.
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Post by gasstrictband on Nov 15, 2020 9:47:28 GMT
Gianfranco Zola, ex Chelsea connection ?
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Post by toddy1953 on Nov 15, 2020 9:49:26 GMT
Anyone else woken up this morning feeling extremely excited about what’s coming up? Been years since I’ve woken up extremely excited in the morning. |
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Post by teanbiscuits on Nov 15, 2020 10:13:03 GMT
Does anyone have a feeling we could be a hard draw to get a quality manager in?
On the face of it looking from the outside we haven't had stability since DC left. Wealthy owners also tend to have a perception of being a bit hire and fire.
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 15, 2020 10:19:38 GMT
Does anyone have a feeling we could be a hard draw to get a quality manager in? On the face of it looking from the outside we haven't had stability since DC left. Wealthy owners also tend to have a perception of being a bit hire and fire. I think many wealthy foreign owners would have got rid of much earlier than Weal did but I do see your point. I also think we are in a better place both on and off the pitch compared to when DC left. |
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Post by Goose on Nov 15, 2020 10:24:18 GMT
Does anyone have a feeling we could be a hard draw to get a quality manager in? On the face of it looking from the outside we haven't had stability since DC left. Wealthy owners also tend to have a perception of being a bit hire and fire. I think many wealthy foreign owners would have got rid of much earlier than Weal did but I do see your point. I also think we are in a better place both on and off the pitch compared to when DC left. I agree, this is where the training ground will really help us... It will show a prospective manager than Wael wants to invest and has put his money (in extremely tough times) where his mouth is. I think the dream could be sold to them just like it has been done so for the summer recruits |
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Post by matealotblue on Nov 15, 2020 10:24:46 GMT
Anyone else woken up this morning feeling extremely excited about what’s coming up? ‘Er indoors......oh it’s a football question. Apologies...🙄 |
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Post by rememberhalifax on Nov 15, 2020 10:25:46 GMT
Well we have the usual names in the mix in the managerial merry go round, of those mentioned i championed Flynn last time round but he now has a good thing going over the river and may want to see it through and his abrasive style may not suit the players we have now. Of the rest Cook top man, Coleman exceptional job at club with low expectations, Tisdale may suit Wael's vision, Cotterill, don't understand those against him , exceptional record at this level, and if i may throw this into the ring. Last time round Robbie Fowler was mentioned which attracted many derisive comments and i was one who scoffed at the idea BUT having looked at his performance and record in Aus. would it be such a bad idea? He has turned a bottom of the league outfit into contenders in the short time he was there which to my mind proves he has the man management skills and coaching ability to make a good manager and perhaps should be given a chance at a club like ours? Not my first choice but some one has to give these ex players a chance and though not my first choice i would not scoff at his appointment either, good luck Wael and if you want any advice don't come on here!
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Post by playtowin on Nov 15, 2020 10:26:04 GMT
Does anyone have a feeling we could be a hard draw to get a quality manager in? On the face of it looking from the outside we haven't had stability since DC left. Wealthy owners also tend to have a perception of being a bit hire and fire. No. Many will see how long BG had despite hardly winning any games and feel the club were very generous. The potential managers will have to decide if they can get the current squad winning as they know apart from loan juggling in january there is little scope for new players. Due to league squad limits this season. A new man might send jml,mccormick and oztumer back to their clubs in january (?) and also transfer list a few players who are not featuring or we already have similar style players in abundance . The squad does have some good players though so most managers will think they can get the team getting more positive results on a consistent basis. |
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 15, 2020 10:34:11 GMT
Well we have the usual names in the mix in the managerial merry go round, of those mentioned i championed Flynn last time round but he now has a good thing going over the river and may want to see it through and his abrasive style may not suit the players we have now. Of the rest Cook top man, Coleman exceptional job at club with low expectations, Tisdale may suit Wael's vision, Cotterill, don't understand those against him , exceptional record at this level, and if i may throw this into the ring. Last time round Robbie Fowler was mentioned which attracted many derisive comments and i was one who scoffed at the idea BUT having looked at his performance and record in Aus. would it be such a bad idea? He has turned a bottom of the league outfit into contenders in the short time he was there which to my mind proves he has the man management skills and coaching ability to make a good manager and perhaps should be given a chance at a club like ours? Not my first choice but some one has to give these ex players a chance and though not my first choice i would not scoff at his appointment either, good luck Wael and if you want any advice don't come on here! Looking at Flynn on EFL interview with our mate last night, he said big club should be aiming for championship but new man heeds time and backing, didn't rule himself out, body language didn't give anything away. Cook for me 82 ers wanted him as well so would wind them up. Be surprised if wael has not lined up the new man as we are more organised now. |
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 15, 2020 10:34:22 GMT
Well we have the usual names in the mix in the managerial merry go round, of those mentioned i championed Flynn last time round but he now has a good thing going over the river and may want to see it through and his abrasive style may not suit the players we have now. Of the rest Cook top man, Coleman exceptional job at club with low expectations, Tisdale may suit Wael's vision, Cotterill, don't understand those against him , exceptional record at this level, and if i may throw this into the ring. Last time round Robbie Fowler was mentioned which attracted many derisive comments and i was one who scoffed at the idea BUT having looked at his performance and record in Aus. would it be such a bad idea? He has turned a bottom of the league outfit into contenders in the short time he was there which to my mind proves he has the man management skills and coaching ability to make a good manager and perhaps should be given a chance at a club like ours? Not my first choice but some one has to give these ex players a chance and though not my first choice i would not scoff at his appointment either, good luck Wael and if you want any advice don't come on here! Looking at Flynn on EFL interview with our mate last night, he said big club should be aiming for championship but new man heeds time and backing, didn't rule himself out, body language didn't give anything away. Cook for me 82 ers wanted him as well so would wind them up. Be surprised if wael has not lined up the new man as we are more organised now. |
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Nov 15, 2020 10:58:38 GMT
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 15, 2020 10:58:50 GMT
Hearing HMS pi## the league has hit rocky waters but dont worry Captain Cook will steer us safely away to calmer waters.😂
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 11:02:07 GMT
Paul Tisdale for me. Reasons: lives local. Not working at the mo (I know he’s keen to get back into it). Loyal manager and is in for the long game as shown at Exeter. Speaks highly of the gas as a whole publicly and privately. Didn’t work for him at Mk dons is the only blotch. I can see the attraction of Paul Tisdale but reading and watching his press interviews he has a very particular style when it comes to management. He clearly prefers the old fashioned manager role who deals with all aspects of running the club from recruitment to contracts rather than the coach model. So if appointed there would need to be big changes in how the club is set out and the role of chief executive and head of recruitment would need to change to give him the role and scope he would want. He is clear that coaching is only part of the job. He's more a modern day Bert Tann ( for those old enough to remember) rather than a fashionable European style coach. He is also too laid back for some. He would hold the dressing room but might be too much of a challenge for Martin S. and Tommy W. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 11:02:12 GMT
Well we have the usual names in the mix in the managerial merry go round, of those mentioned i championed Flynn last time round but he now has a good thing going over the river and may want to see it through and his abrasive style may not suit the players we have now. Of the rest Cook top man, Coleman exceptional job at club with low expectations, Tisdale may suit Wael's vision, Cotterill, don't understand those against him , exceptional record at this level, and if i may throw this into the ring. Last time round Robbie Fowler was mentioned which attracted many derisive comments and i was one who scoffed at the idea BUT having looked at his performance and record in Aus. would it be such a bad idea? He has turned a bottom of the league outfit into contenders in the short time he was there which to my mind proves he has the man management skills and coaching ability to make a good manager and perhaps should be given a chance at a club like ours? Not my first choice but some one has to give these ex players a chance and though not my first choice i would not scoff at his appointment either, good luck Wael and if you want any advice don't come on here! I watched Robbie Fowler on a podcast during the first lockdown, and was amazed at how intelligent he actually is. Certainly a lot more depth there than I was expecting. |
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Post by baggins on Nov 15, 2020 11:05:23 GMT
Well we have the usual names in the mix in the managerial merry go round, of those mentioned i championed Flynn last time round but he now has a good thing going over the river and may want to see it through and his abrasive style may not suit the players we have now. Of the rest Cook top man, Coleman exceptional job at club with low expectations, Tisdale may suit Wael's vision, Cotterill, don't understand those against him , exceptional record at this level, and if i may throw this into the ring. Last time round Robbie Fowler was mentioned which attracted many derisive comments and i was one who scoffed at the idea BUT having looked at his performance and record in Aus. would it be such a bad idea? He has turned a bottom of the league outfit into contenders in the short time he was there which to my mind proves he has the man management skills and coaching ability to make a good manager and perhaps should be given a chance at a club like ours? Not my first choice but some one has to give these ex players a chance and though not my first choice i would not scoff at his appointment either, good luck Wael and if you want any advice don't come on here! I watched Robbie Fowler on a podcast during the first lockdown, and was amazed at how intelligent he actually is. Certainly a lot more depth there than I was expecting. We all live in a Robbie Fowler house, Robbie Fowler house, Robbie Fowler house... |
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 15, 2020 11:14:56 GMT
I watched Robbie Fowler on a podcast during the first lockdown, and was amazed at how intelligent he actually is. Certainly a lot more depth there than I was expecting. We all live in a Robbie Fowler house, Robbie Fowler house, Robbie Fowler house... Most of Liverpool do. Whether he`d make a decent manager or not, he certainly doesn`t lack financial acumen. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 15, 2020 11:24:02 GMT
Does anyone have a feeling we could be a hard draw to get a quality manager in? On the face of it looking from the outside we haven't had stability since DC left. Wealthy owners also tend to have a perception of being a bit hire and fire. We've only sacked one manager since DC left though. So it's not like, they are not giving manager's the time. GC decided to leave to be closer to home and a lot of owners would have sacked Garner earlier, whether they were English or foreign. Plus in these tough times, manager's might not be as picky. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 11:30:50 GMT
Paul Tisdale for me. Reasons: lives local. Not working at the mo (I know he’s keen to get back into it). Loyal manager and is in for the long game as shown at Exeter. Speaks highly of the gas as a whole publicly and privately. Didn’t work for him at Mk dons is the only blotch. I can see the attraction of Paul Tisdale but reading and watching his press interviews he has a very particular style when it comes to management. He clearly prefers the old fashioned manager role who deals with all aspects of running the club from recruitment to contracts rather than the coach model. So if appointed there would need to be big changes in how the club is set out and the role of chief executive and head of recruitment would need to change to give him the role and scope he would want. He is clear that coaching is only part of the job. He's more a modern day Bert Tann ( for those old enough to remember) rather than a fashionable European style coach. He is also too laid back for some. He would hold the dressing room but might be too much of a challenge for Martin S. and Tommy W. He wouldn’t go down too well with some on here because he chooses his own clothes and would be unwilling to wear something from the Pirate Leisure range on the touch line. |
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