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Post by Icegas on Nov 15, 2020 11:37:33 GMT
Does anyone have a feeling we could be a hard draw to get a quality manager in? On the face of it looking from the outside we haven't had stability since DC left. Wealthy owners also tend to have a perception of being a bit hire and fire. We've only sacked one manager since DC left though. So it's not like, they are not giving manager's the time. GC decided to leave to be closer to home and a lot of owners would have sacked Garner earlier, whether they were English or foreign. Plus in these tough times, manager's might not be as picky. That last bit could be key.C19 could be the key to getting a manager like Cook interested.He might want security of a decent job here rather than a higher risk one in the championship right now.
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Post by Blueside on Nov 15, 2020 12:00:22 GMT
Does anyone think it’s strange that TW has been given the caretaker role, the man hasn’t managed since DC was a nippy winger instead of giving Hargreaves/Mansell a crack. This leads me to one conclusion that they already have someone in line to take over, otherwise you’d have given those two a go to prove themselves as had happend before. I see John Terry mentioned before could be a shout, has been serving his apprenticeship well at Villa and would fit with our unofficial link with Chelsea. Stranger things have happend Why does Wael have a miniature Ally McCoist on his shoulder?
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Post by wertongas on Nov 15, 2020 12:10:11 GMT
Who ever we bring in they need to have league 1 experience as a manager, just look at Tisdale, DC as examples, there is a difference between managing at league 2 level and league 1. In league 1 there are ex championship sides with more technically gifted players who like to pass the ball a bit. Need a manager who can pick a side to counter this. In league two it's more about hard work and organisation and less technical football.Paul Cook would be the obvious choice if not John Coleman, who seems to done a good job in the transition from league 2 to 1 management. We have some quality players just think there is a lack of experience and to meany youngsters in the side, as I have said before younger players can be fickle, have a few good games then a few bad, which is what has happened to our results this season.A good manager will ease younger players into a team, not just dump them in at the deep end.
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Post by Langford Gas on Nov 15, 2020 12:24:36 GMT
It definately wont be Cotteril
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Post by Gas1977 on Nov 15, 2020 12:50:22 GMT
I feel we have to go back to basics in some ways, and i do like the idea of getting Tisdale as he could operate the club from top to bottom with no confusion. his record of bringing young players through & his promotion record (albeit in lower leagues) ticks the box for me. doubt he'd want much either. Cook would be my number 1, Tisdale number 2 and a few other names do interest me but there isn't a lot overall. Since Marcus Stewart left Walsall do you think he could be an option as a number 2 if Tisdale came in as they know each other?
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Post by oliverhelmet on Nov 15, 2020 12:58:28 GMT
Don’t see why Paul Cook wouldn’t come here,no different than Nigel Clough going to Mansfield in a lower division.Managed Portsmouth so going less further south would hopefully not be a problem.Cook is the one with the best relevant credentials and would be a real statement of intent from Wael.
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Post by TAGas on Nov 15, 2020 13:07:33 GMT
Don’t see why Paul Cook wouldn’t come here,no different than Nigel Clough going to Mansfield in a lower division.Managed Portsmouth so going less further south would hopefully not be a problem.Cook is the one with the best relevant credentials and would be a real statement of intent from Wael. I agree theres no reason why he wouldn't come here. He's out of work anyway, plus if he did come here and did well then that give him the platform to to get a bigger club else eventually.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 15, 2020 13:27:52 GMT
I assume Cook left Wigan in the hope he'd get a job another job in the Championship or top 6 L1 side, if he did then unless he's now getting desperate for a job why would he want to join us, isn't it a step backwards from Pompey/Wigan?
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Nov 15, 2020 13:32:14 GMT
My suggestion for the next manager would be whose name goes best after these words.
Former Bristol Rovers manager......
Just thinking ahead here 😬
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Post by yattongas on Nov 15, 2020 13:38:29 GMT
The new manger whoever he or she is should carry on with the new ethos the club is striving for . Garner probably had the right ideas but I felt he was lacking in charisma. He didn’t strike me as the sort of bloke who’d get the troops ready to go into battle. We need the our new leader to have a mixture of new ways of thinking but with a smattering of old school leadership qualities.
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Post by RD on Nov 15, 2020 13:48:14 GMT
Whomever Wael appoints, it will DEFINITELY be someone he feels fits the clubs' new ethos.
That is undoubtable IMO.
Of course whether or not that appointment proves successful and/or whether we agree he can carry on with the ethos is another matter - but I certainly don't think there's any doubt that whomever Wael appoints, it will be under the premise that he continues with the same plan.
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Post by tbonegas on Nov 15, 2020 13:51:44 GMT
Well we have the usual names in the mix in the managerial merry go round, of those mentioned i championed Flynn last time round but he now has a good thing going over the river and may want to see it through and his abrasive style may not suit the players we have now. Of the rest Cook top man, Coleman exceptional job at club with low expectations, Tisdale may suit Wael's vision, Cotterill, don't understand those against him , exceptional record at this level, and if i may throw this into the ring. Last time round Robbie Fowler was mentioned which attracted many derisive comments and i was one who scoffed at the idea BUT having looked at his performance and record in Aus. would it be such a bad idea? He has turned a bottom of the league outfit into contenders in the short time he was there which to my mind proves he has the man management skills and coaching ability to make a good manager and perhaps should be given a chance at a club like ours? Not my first choice but some one has to give these ex players a chance and though not my first choice i would not scoff at his appointment either, good luck Wael and if you want any advice don't come on here! Looking at Flynn on EFL interview with our mate last night, he said big club should be aiming for championship but new man heeds time and backing, didn't rule himself out, body language didn't give anything away. Cook for me 82 ers wanted him as well so would wind them up. Be surprised if wael has not lined up the new man as we are more organised now. We heard you the first time mate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 13:52:25 GMT
Why does Wael have a miniature Ally McCoist on his shoulder? If John Terry did my some odd and very unlikely chance join us then I would be finished with the club.
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Post by bluegas on Nov 15, 2020 13:52:39 GMT
My suggestion for the next manager would be whose name goes best after these words. Former Bristol Rovers manager...... Just thinking ahead here 😬 Lightning doesn't strike twice.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2020 13:56:17 GMT
Maybe he had to go as we're about to be partly taken over by a consortium, get the stadium at the fruit market and they want to bring in their own manager 😁 Nice thought. But the evidence suggests a 6 in 31 game win rate had something to do with it 🤔 About the same win ratio as Paul Cook in his first job as a manager.
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Post by lpgas1 on Nov 15, 2020 13:58:52 GMT
Newport manager for me. I know they're doing well, but we would be a step up. not if they come up and we go down it isn't
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Nov 15, 2020 14:04:20 GMT
Nice thought. But the evidence suggests a 6 in 31 game win rate had something to do with it 🤔 About the same win ratio as Paul Cook in his first job as a manager. 🤷♀️
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Post by Gassy on Nov 15, 2020 14:13:45 GMT
Why does Wael have a miniature Ally McCoist on his shoulder? If John Terry did my some odd and very unlikely chance join us then I would be finished with the club. You'd stop supporting Bristol Rovers because they appointed John Terry as manager?
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Post by lpgas1 on Nov 15, 2020 14:14:09 GMT
Jody Morris. assistant manager at Chelsea, (and someone I taught long ago at Christs School. Was in the same class as Jason Roberts and Clinton Morrison)
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 15, 2020 14:27:23 GMT
I assume Cook left Wigan in the hope he'd get a job another job in the Championship or top 6 L1 side, if he did then unless he's now getting desperate for a job why would he want to join us, isn't it a step backwards from Pompey/Wigan? He left because they were in a financial mess. He did well to get them promoted and then keep them up. The point deduction sent them down. Maybe that’s the down side, he hasn’t spent that long in his recent jobs. He also left in July so while he may have been holding out for another championship club or top league one club, nothing appears to have come up yet.
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