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Post by oldgas on Nov 17, 2020 8:25:14 GMT
A really good listen. I won't lie, his appointment would be slightly underwhelming recency bias permits worry given the way it fell apart at MK Dons but he comes across very well, has a clear idea in his head about how he wants to run a club etc. and it all sounds good on paper. The Squeaky W⚓️ sounded good and looked good on paper as well. Experience showed otherwise, an underwhelming achievement after 4 years of massive investment by Uncle Red Face at the open sewer. |
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Post by William Wilson on Nov 17, 2020 8:28:30 GMT
I actually think he could be tempted. I think there’s a possibility - I don’t think he will get the Derby job. I might put a tenner on a complete outsider, not mentioned on here - Hannes Wolf. Hannes Wolf?? You`re making it up. Wasn`t he a character in Pulp Fiction? |
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Post by thegasman on Nov 17, 2020 8:28:33 GMT
Am I right in thinking that manager salary is included in the club spending cap? May have a bit of a baring on who might be appointed, if so.
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Post by yaz on Nov 17, 2020 8:29:39 GMT
Not even taking the water, just seen Paul Tisdale driving through Almondsbury on my way to work this morning. What car was he driving? |
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Post by Westy on Nov 17, 2020 8:34:11 GMT
Tisdale might be the one that fits Wael's vision of developing youth. He has a good L2 record, maybe it just wasn't the right time or club for him to have been successful at L1 level in the past. Personally I want Cook or Stendel. Appointing either of them would show ambition. I'd have decent faith in one of those two getting us up to the championship within 3-4 years. I feel you. I don't think 3-4 years in a role is particularly easy to come by in the lower divisions though. Bar a few lengthly regimes, football is still cut throat nature, especially when you consider the movement a team could have in 3-4 years. That's premiership or conference either side of us |
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Post by Qatar Gas on Nov 17, 2020 8:39:20 GMT
I actually think he could be tempted. I think there’s a possibility - I don’t think he will get the Derby job. I might put a tenner on a complete outsider, not mentioned on here - Hannes Wolf. He is probably somewhere between us and Derby. He may not be interested in dropping down to us, but I imagine Derby will be looking for someone with a higher reputation. We should be ambitious and at least make contact with him. |
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Post by gascoach on Nov 17, 2020 8:42:06 GMT
My 2 pennies worth on Tisdale.
Maybe being a bit open on a public forum but I was lucky enough to spend the afternoon with him when he was at MK Dons. Incredibly articulate communicator. Holds the west country as home, Andy Tilson is his gardener!
However, hes very much of the same cloth as BG, he doesnt shout. Have heard some comments about his sessions that are the most complimentary.
A friend of mine who worked at Dons under his time was that his football was dull but got them promoted with a poor side.
Personally i wouldn't have him, that said I loved what BG was about and his results were a disaster, so what do I know.
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Post by TugPhase on Nov 17, 2020 8:50:07 GMT
Not sure how I would feel about Tis. Like many, from the outside looking in he seemed to do a great job with Exeter. However looking at it now, in his twelve years there he won 15 more than he lost or just over one a year.. fairly unremarkable. He got them promoted to L1, but also got relegated with them.
At MK he got promoted from L2 but then again we know how he got on the following season in L1. There is something I like about him, but I think he is a good L2 manager.
I think we need to think bigger. We currently have a good squad and are an established L1 team. We need a good L1 manager. We've shown real ambition in our player recruitment recently, now we need to do the same for a manager.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 17, 2020 8:51:56 GMT
I actually think he could be tempted. I think there’s a possibility - I don’t think he will get the Derby job. I might put a tenner on a complete outsider, not mentioned on here - Hannes Wolf. | Manager | Matches | W | D | L | PPM | Win Rate | Draw Rate | Loss Rate | | Hannes Wolf | 283 | 165 | 42 | 76 | 1.81 | 58% | 15% | 27% |
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Post by blueridge on Nov 17, 2020 8:59:21 GMT
I think there’s a possibility - I don’t think he will get the Derby job. I might put a tenner on a complete outsider, not mentioned on here - Hannes Wolf. | Manager | Matches | W | D | L | PPM | Win Rate | Draw Rate | Loss Rate | | Hannes Wolf | 283 | 165 | 42 | 76 | 1.81 | 58% | 15% | 27% |
Thanks GNI1883 - a great record albeit in Germany. I think he’s been touted for a couple of Championship jobs fairly recently. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 17, 2020 9:32:09 GMT
Not sure how I would feel about Tis. Like many, from the outside looking in he seemed to do a great job with Exeter. However looking at it now, in his twelve years there he won 15 more than he lost or just over one a year.. fairly unremarkable. He got them promoted to L1, but also got relegated with them. At MK he got promoted from L2 but then again we know how he got on the following season in L1. There is something I like about him, but I think he is a good L2 manager. I think we need to think bigger. We currently have a good squad and are an established L1 team. We need a good L1 manager. We've shown real ambition in our player recruitment recently, now we need to do the same for a manager. Can you name one good L1 manager who's out of work/would consider joining us? |
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Post by TugPhase on Nov 17, 2020 9:45:15 GMT
Not sure how I would feel about Tis. Like many, from the outside looking in he seemed to do a great job with Exeter. However looking at it now, in his twelve years there he won 15 more than he lost or just over one a year.. fairly unremarkable. He got them promoted to L1, but also got relegated with them. At MK he got promoted from L2 but then again we know how he got on the following season in L1. There is something I like about him, but I think he is a good L2 manager. I think we need to think bigger. We currently have a good squad and are an established L1 team. We need a good L1 manager. We've shown real ambition in our player recruitment recently, now we need to do the same for a manager. Can you name one good L1 manager who's out of work/would consider joining us? This comes to the point about ambition. We have signed some high-quality, proven league one players recently - Oztumer, Westbrooke, Ehmer et al. If we can attract them why shouldn't we be able to attract a similar pedigree manager? If anything having quality players already on board should increase our appeal further. So in answer to your question; Paul Cook. |
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Post by TAGas on Nov 17, 2020 9:50:46 GMT
I don't see the point in hiring Tisdale imo.
We may as well have kept Garner if we do.
I know hes got newely 700 games under his belt, but his league one experience as never ended well.
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Post by pirate on Nov 17, 2020 9:54:22 GMT
Not sure how I would feel about Tis. Like many, from the outside looking in he seemed to do a great job with Exeter. However looking at it now, in his twelve years there he won 15 more than he lost or just over one a year.. fairly unremarkable. He got them promoted to L1, but also got relegated with them. At MK he got promoted from L2 but then again we know how he got on the following season in L1. There is something I like about him, but I think he is a good L2 manager. I think we need to think bigger. We currently have a good squad and are an established L1 team. We need a good L1 manager. We've shown real ambition in our player recruitment recently, now we need to do the same for a manager. Exeter were a basket case financially when he took over there and took them from the Conference to League One, finishing in eighth place at the conclusion of the 10/11 season – equalling the club's highest ever league finish. He also sold £7-8m million worth of players during his time at the club and rejected approaches from Swansea and Southampton to manage them. |
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Post by pirate on Nov 17, 2020 9:55:28 GMT
I don't see the point in hiring Tisdale imo. We may as well have kept Garner if we do. I know hes got newely 700 games under his belt, but his league one experience as never ended well. Apart from finishing in eighth place – equalling Exeter's highest ever league finish. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Nov 17, 2020 10:00:29 GMT
I’d be pretty damn excited if we got Tisdale.
I think Cook is probably a better choice, but probably out of our reach.
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Post by TugPhase on Nov 17, 2020 10:01:28 GMT
Not sure how I would feel about Tis. Like many, from the outside looking in he seemed to do a great job with Exeter. However looking at it now, in his twelve years there he won 15 more than he lost or just over one a year.. fairly unremarkable. He got them promoted to L1, but also got relegated with them. At MK he got promoted from L2 but then again we know how he got on the following season in L1. There is something I like about him, but I think he is a good L2 manager. I think we need to think bigger. We currently have a good squad and are an established L1 team. We need a good L1 manager. We've shown real ambition in our player recruitment recently, now we need to do the same for a manager. Exeter were a basket case financially when he took over there and took them from the Conference to League One, finishing in eighth place at the conclusion of the 10/11 season – equalling the club's highest ever league finish. He also sold £7-8m million worth of players during his time at the club and rejected approaches from Swansea and Southampton to manage them. But we're not a financial basket case. So whilst that is a skill, it isn't one that we need. We're reasonably sound off the pitch. What we need is someone that can do the business on it. And yes, he took them to eight, once. That season was sandwiched between a season of scraping survival and relegation. Just hasn't done enough at L1 level, for me. If he is the man, he'll get my full support. I just think we should strive for better. |
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Post by TAGas on Nov 17, 2020 10:04:13 GMT
I don't see the point in hiring Tisdale imo. We may as well have kept Garner if we do. I know hes got newely 700 games under his belt, but his league one experience as never ended well. Apart from finishing in eighth place – equalling Exeter's highest ever league finish. Good point, but that was a long time ago. If we do sign him and he does do well I'll eat my hat. |
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Post by pirate on Nov 17, 2020 10:07:37 GMT
Exeter were a basket case financially when he took over there and took them from the Conference to League One, finishing in eighth place at the conclusion of the 10/11 season – equalling the club's highest ever league finish. He also sold £7-8m million worth of players during his time at the club and rejected approaches from Swansea and Southampton to manage them. But we're not a financial basket case. So whilst that is a skill, it isn't one that we need. We're reasonably sound off the pitch. What we need is someone that can do the business on it. And yes, he took them to eight, once. That season was sandwiched between a season of scraping survival and relegation. Just hasn't done enough at L1 level, for me. If he is the man, he'll get my full support. I just think we should strive for better. We have been a financial basket case and continue to lose extraordinary amounts of money every year. Scraping survival for a club of Exeter's size is an achievement at this level, the fact he got them to 8th was remarkable. With his record of developing players I think he fits the mould of what we are looking for right now. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 17, 2020 10:17:19 GMT
Not sure how I would feel about Tis. Like many, from the outside looking in he seemed to do a great job with Exeter. However looking at it now, in his twelve years there he won 15 more than he lost or just over one a year.. fairly unremarkable. He got them promoted to L1, but also got relegated with them. At MK he got promoted from L2 but then again we know how he got on the following season in L1. There is something I like about him, but I think he is a good L2 manager. I think we need to think bigger. We currently have a good squad and are an established L1 team. We need a good L1 manager. We've shown real ambition in our player recruitment recently, now we need to do the same for a manager. Can you name one good L1 manager who's out of work/would consider joining us? If they're out of work then surely they're not a L1 manager? |
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