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Post by madgas on Nov 19, 2020 8:42:57 GMT
Well- ive never seen a Tisdale team be particularly route one football. His style is similar to DCs. Likes a diagonal. But not aimless hoofs.
I also think they got up. Paul cook struggled to get pompey by the same reckoning.
Look for me? Tis isnt the right guy. But im going with gut feels rather than facts.
I think based on historical evidence: ie what has happened this could be a very good appointment.
For me: i want someone thats likely to hit it with the fans early doors. Id say Paul Cook is that man. I dont even particularly like him. But my main aim after two managers who achieved contrasting on the pitch success but had similar supporter indifference would be to get the right mix of passion and intelligence.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Nov 19, 2020 8:45:13 GMT
Well that settles it then, ONE MK Dons fan comes on here and is critical of Tisdale and that confirms he'll be a disaster. Good job he told us before he's been announced and we can move on to the next target. Let's hope no Wigan or Newport fans show up with criticism of Cook & Flynn or we really will be screwed
He's perfectly entitled to his opinion but are we really suggesting that one fans view enforces all the negatives ??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 8:45:28 GMT
Just a pity no Exeter fans have shown up on here with their opinions of the man.
Wnenever I have seen Exeter over the years, probably seen 10 of the twelve games we played against his sides, I always thought they played very good football.
In total we won 5, lost 5 and drew 2 against Exeter in that time.
I find it very sad when people are slagging the man off before he comes through the door and some of those the same people who slagged off DC for taking us to the Conference and very conveniently forgot to mention that their hero John Ward was responsible.
We all know how that went and the very same people jumped on the DC is a hero bandwagon twelve months later and then after another twelve months they proclaimed him as a legend.
It does not worry me what the man wears on a match day, lucky him to have a top designer/ business man as a friend. He gets slagged for that as well, in spite of the fact he has qualified that in his podcast by stating he wears a tracksuit for all the rest of the time on the training ground etc.
All the best to him I say and hope he proves the doubters wrong if he indeed is the man.
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Post by Westy on Nov 19, 2020 8:51:10 GMT
The whole story sounds like a love child of DC, BG and GC. And I'm not sure how I feel about that! DC style new line up every week GC boring football limping up the league BG 7 defenders out of position Just imagine DC changing the tactics for match, without changing that tactical during the match, and a game of dire football full of out of position defenders! 😬 Thanks dingdong for heading over here! Haha, that’s what I thought, the bastard son of Garner and Coughlan. An uninspiring long ball merchant who loves a defender and over-thinks his formation. All it was missing was how Tisdale loves to quote chapter and verse on how possession is more important than goals. Makes me wonder if the board have actually done their research and watched any MK Dons games under Tisdale or whether they have just fallen for this urban legend that Tisdale sides always play good football. This is Bristol Rovers though so they probably haven’t and they are going to get a shock Another thing to check is what are his post-match pressers like when he loses 🤔 is it always the ref? |
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Post by Fat Albert on Nov 19, 2020 8:56:48 GMT
Just a pity no Exeter fans have shown up on here with their opinions of the man. Wnenever I have seen Exeter over the years, probably seen 10 of the twelve games we played against his sides, I always thought they played very good football. In total we won 5, lost 5 and drew 2 against Exeter in that time. I find it very sad when people are slagging the man off before he comes through the door and some of those the same people who slagged off DC for taking us to the Conference and very conveniently forgot to mention that their hero John Ward was responsible. We all know how that went and the very same people jumped on the DC is a hero bandwagon twelve months later and then after another twelve months they proclaimed him as a legend. It does not worry me what the man wears on a match day, lucky him to have a top designer/ business man as a friend. He gets slagged for that as well, in spite of the fact he has qualified that in his podcast by stating he wears a tracksuit for all the rest of the time on the training ground etc. All the best to him I say and hope he proves the doubters wrong if he indeed is the man. This is the thing that annoys me the most about the forum. People’s constant slating of anything and everything, but then forgetting they ever said it when things start going well. The man hasn’t even been appointed (and might not) yet he’s getting torn to shreds by some. 5 straight wins and he would be being hailed as the greatest ever and it was never in doubt! What’s all the can’t manage at league1 crap as well, as if it’s a completely different sport or something?? UTG |
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Post by Jomo on Nov 19, 2020 8:59:33 GMT
Haha, that’s what I thought, the bastard son of Garner and Coughlan. An uninspiring long ball merchant who loves a defender and over-thinks his formation. All it was missing was how Tisdale loves to quote chapter and verse on how possession is more important than goals. Makes me wonder if the board have actually done their research and watched any MK Dons games under Tisdale or whether they have just fallen for this urban legend that Tisdale sides always play good football. This is Bristol Rovers though so they probably haven’t and they are going to get a shock Another thing to check is what are his post-match pressers like when he loses 🤔 is it always the ref? Found this link to a post match interview from him towards the end of his reign at MK Dons. Seems a lot more honest and open than BG was. |
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Post by piratejames on Nov 19, 2020 9:04:24 GMT
I think we need to be a bit rational here. This is one MK Dons fan and people are treating it as gospel, it is just their opinion - if you ask an Exeter fan you might get a different opinion. Those who were happy with the appointment need to have a bit more faith (and backbone)! I'm not massively keen on it but it looks like it is a done deal so we need to support it and get behind him. I hate the idea of a manager coming in and already being on back foot with getting the fans on board. If it's him, lets give him time, let's support what he does and be positive about it. Negativity doesn't help anyone, especially when it stems from one post from one random fan of one team who recently sacked him. Great point, there are fans of ourselves who would praise dc and there are fans that shoot dc down, there are fans who liked coughlan and there are fans that hated him, there are fans who wish bg was given more time and there are some that hated it from day dot. What I will say again is any manager that comes into our club has a fresh start and we should treat him accordingly. UTG |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 9:11:20 GMT
Just a pity no Exeter fans have shown up on here with their opinions of the man. Wnenever I have seen Exeter over the years, probably seen 10 of the twelve games we played against his sides, I always thought they played very good football. In total we won 5, lost 5 and drew 2 against Exeter in that time. I find it very sad when people are slagging the man off before he comes through the door and some of those the same people who slagged off DC for taking us to the Conference and very conveniently forgot to mention that their hero John Ward was responsible. We all know how that went and the very same people jumped on the DC is a hero bandwagon twelve months later and then after another twelve months they proclaimed him as a legend. It does not worry me what the man wears on a match day, lucky him to have a top designer/ business man as a friend. He gets slagged for that as well, in spite of the fact he has qualified that in his podcast by stating he wears a tracksuit for all the rest of the time on the training ground etc. All the best to him I say and hope he proves the doubters wrong if he indeed is the man. I looked on the Exeter City forum for opinions Bideford. Not a squeak. |
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Post by turbo8818 on Nov 19, 2020 9:16:50 GMT
All I know is if i came onto another clubs forum to slag off a previous manager who had got us promoted at the first attempt , I think I’d need to have a look at myself first and firemost.
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Post by darkbluegas on Nov 19, 2020 9:19:18 GMT
Tisdale has done amazing as a manager, seeing as he only played 73 league games, 18 of those abroad. Not bad at all. Started up a club from scratch at Team Bath, winning four promotions in his time there and advancing them through four qualifying rounds to the first round proper of the FA Cup. Also launched the professional careers of several players. Took over a club at Exeter City in a diabolical financial position and became the first Exeter City manager in their history to lead the club to back-to-back promotions and also the highest ever league finish. Also took them to three other playoff finals. Developed several outstanding players at the club, making £7-8 million in transfer fees during that time. Took a club at MK Dons that were on a 3 year downward spiral from the Championship-League Two and managed to get them promoted at the first attempt. Signed a player in Rhys Healey for £200k who would later be sold on for £1.1m. Just to finish the MK story he managed to turn a winning start to the season into an all time club record collapse. Fair play to you though Pirate for nailing your colours to the mast after your endorsement of Ben Garner prior to him arriving at the club |
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Post by Gassy on Nov 19, 2020 9:19:22 GMT
I think we need to be a bit rational here. This is one MK Dons fan and people are treating it as gospel, it is just their opinion - if you ask an Exeter fan you might get a different opinion. Those who were happy with the appointment need to have a bit more faith (and backbone)! I'm not massively keen on it but it looks like it is a done deal so we need to support it and get behind him. I hate the idea of a manager coming in and already being on back foot with getting the fans on board. If it's him, lets give him time, let's support what he does and be positive about it. Negativity doesn't help anyone, especially when it stems from one post from one random fan of one team who recently sacked him. Great point, there are fans of ourselves who would praise dc and there are fans that shoot dc down, there are fans who liked coughlan and there are fans that hated him, there are fans who wish bg was given more time and there are some that hated it from day dot. What I will say again is any manager that comes into our club has a fresh start and we should treat him accordingly. UTG Good post. What people are failing to miss, conveniently, is that people have different opinions. For some reason there seems to be a belief that everyone must be positive and praise the ground Tisdale walks on. God forbid you have a different opinion. It’s a simple debate of giving reasons why you want him or you don’t, he isn’t “getting torn to shreds”. If he is then on the other side some are completely brown nosing him. Every single poster who said they’d rather another candidate has said they’ll give Tisdale their full support if he gets the job - I don’t really see what the problem is, can we not give our opinion on a forum anymore unless it’s pure delight? |
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Post by darkbluegas on Nov 19, 2020 9:19:54 GMT
Tisdale has done amazing as a manager, seeing as he only played 73 league games, 18 of those abroad. Not bad at all. Started up a club from scratch at Team Bath, winning four promotions in his time there and advancing them through four qualifying rounds to the first round proper of the FA Cup. Also launched the professional careers of several players. Took over a club at Exeter City in a diabolical financial position and became the first Exeter City manager in their history to lead the club to back-to-back promotions and also the highest ever league finish. Also took them to three other playoff finals. Developed several outstanding players at the club, making £7-8 million in transfer fees during that time. Took a club at MK Dons that were on a 3 year downward spiral from the Championship-League Two and managed to get them promoted at the first attempt. Signed a player in Rhys Healey for £200k who would later be sold on for £1.1m. Just to finish the MK story he managed to turn a winning start to the season into an all time club record collapse. Fair play to you though Pirate for nailing your colours to the mast after your endorsement of Ben Garner prior to him arriving at the club |
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 19, 2020 9:24:21 GMT
Well that settles it then, ONE MK Dons fan comes on here and is critical of Tisdale and that confirms he'll be a disaster. Good job he told us before he's been announced and we can move on to the next target. Let's hope no Wigan or Newport fans show up with criticism of Cook & Flynn or we really will be screwed He's perfectly entitled to his opinion but are we really suggesting that one fans view enforces all the negatives ?? When I looked the other day or was mixed reviews when he left. A lot of MK fans were saying that he should have been given more time, because of the injuries. He probably needed a break anyway after 20 year's. He had time to sit down and reflect on things, for the first time. Even the best manager's have failed at times and had bad runs. Look at Klopp when Dortmund had a bad injury crisis. There is a risk with every appointment. Living in Cornwall I know Plymouth fans that rate him and have said he will probably do a good job. A few have wanted him as their manager before. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2020 9:30:17 GMT
Great point, there are fans of ourselves who would praise dc and there are fans that shoot dc down, there are fans who liked coughlan and there are fans that hated him, there are fans who wish bg was given more time and there are some that hated it from day dot. What I will say again is any manager that comes into our club has a fresh start and we should treat him accordingly. UTG Good post. What people are failing to miss, conveniently, is that people have different opinions. For some reason there seems to be a belief that everyone must be positive and praise the ground Tisdale walks on. God forbid you have a different opinion. It’s a simple debate of giving reasons why you want him or you don’t, he isn’t “getting torn to shreds”. If he is then on the other side some are completely brown nosing him. Every single poster who said they’d rather another candidate has said they’ll give Tisdale their full support if he gets the job - I don’t really see what the problem is, can we not give our opinion on a forum anymore unless it’s pure delight? Isn’t it though? It’s always those of a more rose tinted persuasion as well. I don’t recall any naysayers telling the rose tinters to not be positive because a mixture of views is necessary in any debate. But the shouting down of dissenters is unreal. Followed by a flounce to avoid reading a “meltdown”. There is no one right view and demanding people just be positive is effectively censorship. The test should be if you can back up your argument with reasons why you have the position you do then your argument is valid and you should be allowed to feel how you feel and say as much. The naysayers in this instance can quite clearly point to Tisdale’s league one record and it’s interesting to hear from an MK fan who saw the style of football first hand it wasn’t what we think it was. |
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Post by aghast on Nov 19, 2020 9:30:50 GMT
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 19, 2020 9:31:15 GMT
Not bad at all. Started up a club from scratch at Team Bath, winning four promotions in his time there and advancing them through four qualifying rounds to the first round proper of the FA Cup. Also launched the professional careers of several players. Took over a club at Exeter City in a diabolical financial position and became the first Exeter City manager in their history to lead the club to back-to-back promotions and also the highest ever league finish. Also took them to three other playoff finals. Developed several outstanding players at the club, making £7-8 million in transfer fees during that time. Took a club at MK Dons that were on a 3 year downward spiral from the Championship-League Two and managed to get them promoted at the first attempt. Signed a player in Rhys Healey for £200k who would later be sold on for £1.1m. Just to finish the MK story he managed to turn a winning start to the season into an all time club record collapse. Fair play to you though Pirate for nailing your colours to the mast after your endorsement of Ben Garner prior to him arriving at the club We moan about our lack of striking options. Imagine taking Daly and Hanlon out as well. They had all their strikers injured at the same time and other key player's. Let ignore the other 19 year's of his managerial career and focus on the few months, when he had an injury hit squad! Most manager's and clubs would have struggled. 8 of the 11 player's who player just before he was sacked, were part of the squad that got relegated from League 1 just before. He probably would have turned it around, once he had a fit striker. |
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Post by darkbluegas on Nov 19, 2020 9:34:26 GMT
Just to finish the MK story he managed to turn a winning start to the season into an all time club record collapse. Fair play to you though Pirate for nailing your colours to the mast after your endorsement of Ben Garner prior to him arriving at the club We moan about our lack of striking options. Imagine taking Daly and Hanlon out as well. They had all their strikers injured at the same time and other key player's. Let ignore the other 19 year's of his managerial career and focus on the few months, when he had an injury hit squad! Most manager's and clubs would have struggled. 8 of the 11 player's who player just before he was sacked, were part of the squad that got relegated from League 1 just before. He probably would have turned it around, once he had a fit striker. Do you mean the 20 years of fourth division glory? Strange how no other big club managed to lure him away. |
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Post by markczgas on Nov 19, 2020 9:35:24 GMT
Well- ive never seen a Tisdale team be particularly route one football. His style is similar to DCs. Likes a diagonal. But not aimless hoofs. I also think they got up. Paul cook struggled to get pompey by the same reckoning. Look for me? Tis isnt the right guy. But im going with gut feels rather than facts. I think based on historical evidence: ie what has happened this could be a very good appointment. For me: i want someone thats likely to hit it with the fans early doors. Id say Paul Cook is that man. I dont even particularly like him. But my main aim after two managers who achieved contrasting on the pitch success but had similar supporter indifference would be to get the right mix of passion and intelligence. don't you mean lack of intelligence  |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 19, 2020 9:36:37 GMT
Just a pity no Exeter fans have shown up on here with their opinions of the man. Wnenever I have seen Exeter over the years, probably seen 10 of the twelve games we played against his sides, I always thought they played very good football. In total we won 5, lost 5 and drew 2 against Exeter in that time. I find it very sad when people are slagging the man off before he comes through the door and some of those the same people who slagged off DC for taking us to the Conference and very conveniently forgot to mention that their hero John Ward was responsible. We all know how that went and the very same people jumped on the DC is a hero bandwagon twelve months later and then after another twelve months they proclaimed him as a legend. It does not worry me what the man wears on a match day, lucky him to have a top designer/ business man as a friend. He gets slagged for that as well, in spite of the fact he has qualified that in his podcast by stating he wears a tracksuit for all the rest of the time on the training ground etc. All the best to him I say and hope he proves the doubters wrong if he indeed is the man. I’m a doubter but hope he proves me wrong *if* he gets the job. No slagging him off from me , he’s just not my preferred choice. |
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 19, 2020 9:39:15 GMT
I feel like I must be missing something here, are we really saying the sum total of our ambition is to appoint a manager with a record over nearly two decades that amounts to getting teams promoted from the fourth division only to get them relegated again. I’m sure he’s a smashing chap but surely we could aim a bit higher. Although I’m sure our CEO knows him really well and has a great relationship with him. That sums up where I am. Great manager for league two a couple of years ago, but we’re league one in the present. Ah well, it’s inevitable now. I’m just trying to content myself he’s not Garner and he can’t wreck a winning team and that’s a massive positive in and of itself. And yet you’re advocating Michael Duff who’s never even managed in league 1. Btw I wouldn’t have been unhappy had it been Duff or Taylor at Exeter, both strangers to league 1 because that’s where we are, BRFC, a League 1 team who do well with new managers. But honestly 365 the vehemence with which you’ve run down Tisdale, even before he’s even appointed is very strange. Have your opinion of course but if you have a go at another poster with a different POV, don’t be surprised if they come back and give as good as they’ve taken. Those who give it out have to be prepared to take it as well. UTG! |
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