Taking of the Knee

Spoken like a true all lives matter peddler.

The problem is is that racism is so deeply ingrained worldwide that working together is impossible. Not everyone can do it. Sadly the sole reason for it not happening sometimes is because they can’t see past the colour of someone’s skin, their culture, nationality or sexuality.

Whilst I don’t agree with some of the actions of the BLM movement, what I do fundamentally agree with is that black lives don’t matter to some people in offices of power and they will still discriminate.

The fact it’s taken the course of action it has just for people to recognise it, talk about it and show some kind of solidarity shows it was a problem to begin with, and it’s certainly showing that some people still refuse to belive it’s a problem.

I’m an open lefty but I don’t push my views on people.

If I took the knee before work no one would notice as I'm not remotely in the public eye.

Don't know how many times I need to ask this, but why is a movement "being Marxist." Intrinsically bad? First of all, the movement itself is not Marxist. It is true that the founders of Black Lives Matter have said that they are "trained Marxists," however, they also said they "don't want to be seen as the vanguards of this movement." Although founders in practicality, they hardly see themselves as the leaders of such a political movement.

Secondly, I would argue that most rational people are Marxists, in some way shape or form. Let's put it this way: to be Marxist, you don't inherently have to be a communist or socialist. Now, it is true Marx did advocate for the transitionary phase to communism from capitalism through socialism, however, when you're talking about political ideologies; religious beliefs, points of view: you don't have to agree with every single point someone makes to be that a part of that ideology. Marx's critiques of capitalism were undeniably accurate, I don't think I've ever seen anyone contest that. Where people have an issue is where it comes to whether socialism/communism is a truly better ideological system; which they don't believe to be the case, perhaps due to past implementations of this' failures, but also because, at least to an extent; through things like the Red Scare and mass propaganda campaigns we as a society have been led to believe like a hivemind on that point. But there is a reason ideologies like Social Democracy exist, they don't advocate for mass revolution, violence, burning flags, pulling down statues and defacing property. They believe that capitalism is not beyond reform and with things like government nationalisation of certain branches of society (like healthcare, railways etc). And limiting the ability of big business to exploit ordinary people, that's still Marxism. It's just not as "Marxist" as someone who would advocate for the complete overthrowal of such a system.

But let's say they do advocate for the complete overthrowal of the system. You say, completely falsely, that they encourage violence, burn flags, pull down statues and deface property. It's strange to me that a fellow football fan cannot recognise that the movement itself doesn't stand or idolise or condone almost any of these things, especially encouraging violence; burning flags is a First Amendment right. But you refer specifically to the leaders when you call them Marxists, but then don't refer to the leaders in terms of other contexts. The reason this is weird is because there are many, many football fans that are racist. Yet if I accused you of being racist for simply being a football fan, that'd be absurd.

Also, the Marxist point is LITERALLY IRRELEVANT. Like completely, Martin Luther King Jr was also a profound, outspoken Marxist. He was also the leader of a political movement challenging racism in society. It's so irritating that the exact same arguments are unironically used today against such a political, social movement that were used against MLK and the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s. 

So yeah, stop being a and support this please. Your arguments against it are truly woeful. 

Quick scan..... think we know who the racists are lads 👍

The least racist is still racist. You couple have made this argument during Jim Crow "oh well, other nations still have slavery so feel grateful!" It's nonsense.

Great post 👏

“Is it a misfortune that magnificent California was seized from the lazy Mexicans who did not know what to do with it?” - Karl Marx

"It is now completely clear to me that he, as is proved by his cranial formation and his hair, descends from the Negroes who had joined Moses’ exodus from Egypt, assuming that his mother or grandmother on the paternal side had not interbred with a ni**er. Now this union of Judaism and Germanism with a basic Negro substance must produce a peculiar product. The pushiness of the fellow is also ni**er-like. - Karl Marx, letter to Engels, in reference to his political competitor Ferdinand Lassalle.

Its lovely you have true freedom.

Shame not everyone does.