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Post by yattongas on Aug 11, 2021 16:40:39 GMT
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Post by francegas on Aug 11, 2021 17:37:41 GMT
Could they not recruit from the unemployed locally within the UK. Or do the salaries they offer fall short of benefits being received.
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Post by francegas on Aug 11, 2021 17:47:25 GMT
Before posting this I spoke to my parents in Bournemouth who confirmed their local Asda, Sainsbury's and COOPs shelves are fully stocked, my brother in Cambridgeshire confirmed the same with their local Sainsbury's and Tesco and my friends in Surrey confirmed the same with Waitrose and Tesco. Is this just the same media hype who told us Pharmacies will be running short of basic medicines due to brexit. In fact I'd say shelves are getting bare here in central France of fruit and veg due to the wettest coldest summer (if you can call it summer) we've experienced here. That's not due to brexit!!
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Post by trevorgas on Aug 11, 2021 18:07:39 GMT
Before posting this I spoke to my parents in Bournemouth who confirmed their local Asda, Sainsbury's and COOPs shelves are fully stocked, my brother in Cambridgeshire confirmed the same with their local Sainsbury's and Tesco and my friends in Surrey confirmed the same with Waitrose and Tesco. Is this just the same media hype who told us Pharmacies will be running short of basic medicines due to brexit. In fact I'd say shelves are getting bare here in central France of fruit and veg due to the wettest coldest summer (if you can call it summer) we've experienced here. That's not due to brexit!! Same in North Wales no problem with supply it's the media hyping it up .
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Post by trevorgas on Aug 11, 2021 18:15:57 GMT
Could they not recruit from the unemployed locally within the UK. Or do the salaries they offer fall short of benefits being received. So I see this as an opportunity to pay a proper living wage ,strangely cheap Labour from the EU supressed wages in this Country now businesses will have to pay more and we the customer will have to pay extra for the product,I see that as a good thing rather than artificially low prices of the backs of poorly paid workers.
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Post by oldie on Aug 11, 2021 18:36:52 GMT
Could they not recruit from the unemployed locally within the UK. Or do the salaries they offer fall short of benefits being received. So I see this as an opportunity to pay a proper living wage ,strangely cheap Labour from the EU supressed wages in this Country now businesses will have to pay more and we the customer will have to pay extra for the product,I see that as a good thing rather than artificially low prices of the backs of poorly paid workers. Sorry Clive It does not work like that.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 11, 2021 18:46:17 GMT
Before posting this I spoke to my parents in Bournemouth who confirmed their local Asda, Sainsbury's and COOPs shelves are fully stocked, my brother in Cambridgeshire confirmed the same with their local Sainsbury's and Tesco and my friends in Surrey confirmed the same with Waitrose and Tesco. Is this just the same media hype who told us Pharmacies will be running short of basic medicines due to brexit. In fact I'd say shelves are getting bare here in central France of fruit and veg due to the wettest coldest summer (if you can call it summer) we've experienced here. That's not due to brexit!! There’s been literally hundreds of pics of stores running low up and down the country. That’s why there’s calls for the army to deliver stuff . It’s not made up rubbish or just because it’s not happening everywhere doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Even in little old Yatton Co-op there’s been shortages of fruit & veg , bottled drinks etc . The weather down in Hérépian is bloody lovely francegas . 34 degrees today and forecast for much of the same all week 😃 🌞
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Post by yattongas on Aug 11, 2021 20:33:33 GMT
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Post by francegas on Aug 11, 2021 20:34:40 GMT
Before posting this I spoke to my parents in Bournemouth who confirmed their local Asda, Sainsbury's and COOPs shelves are fully stocked, my brother in Cambridgeshire confirmed the same with their local Sainsbury's and Tesco and my friends in Surrey confirmed the same with Waitrose and Tesco. Is this just the same media hype who told us Pharmacies will be running short of basic medicines due to brexit. In fact I'd say shelves are getting bare here in central France of fruit and veg due to the wettest coldest summer (if you can call it summer) we've experienced here. That's not due to brexit!! There’s been literally hundreds of pics of stores running low up and down the country. That’s why there’s calls for the army to deliver stuff . It’s not made up rubbish or just because it’s not happening everywhere doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Even in little old Yatton Co-op there’s been shortages of fruit & veg , bottled drinks etc . The weather down in Hérépian is bloody lovely francegas . 34 degrees today and forecast for much of the same all week 😃 🌞 35 degrees forecast here tomorrow....at last summer has arrived. Played petanque today in the village with the locals it was scorching hot!!
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Post by yattongas on Aug 11, 2021 20:45:48 GMT
There’s been literally hundreds of pics of stores running low up and down the country. That’s why there’s calls for the army to deliver stuff . It’s not made up rubbish or just because it’s not happening everywhere doesn’t mean it’s not happening. Even in little old Yatton Co-op there’s been shortages of fruit & veg , bottled drinks etc . The weather down in Hérépian is bloody lovely francegas . 34 degrees today and forecast for much of the same all week 😃 🌞 35 degrees forecast here tomorrow....at last summer has arrived. Played petanque today in the village with the locals it was scorching hot!! Did you win ? I’ve always fancied having a game of pétanque when I’ve seen the local old boys having a game on various holidays. Haven’t had the nerve to ask , plus my French probably isn’t good enough!
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Post by francegas on Aug 11, 2021 21:01:35 GMT
35 degrees forecast here tomorrow....at last summer has arrived. Played petanque today in the village with the locals it was scorching hot!! Did you win ? I’ve always fancied having a game of pétanque when I’ve seen the local old boys having a game on various holidays. Haven’t had the nerve to ask , plus my French probably isn’t good enough! Won a few games. You should ask, the locals would be delighted for you to participate .
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Post by trevorgas on Aug 12, 2021 6:42:00 GMT
So I see this as an opportunity to pay a proper living wage ,strangely cheap Labour from the EU supressed wages in this Country now businesses will have to pay more and we the customer will have to pay extra for the product,I see that as a good thing rather than artificially low prices of the backs of poorly paid workers. Sorry Clive It does not work like that. Morning Les,it's happening that way in hospitality,so why not elsewhere ?
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Post by baggins on Aug 12, 2021 7:22:21 GMT
Sorry Clive It does not work like that. Morning Les,it's happening that way in hospitality,so why not elsewhere ? I think if you asked a publican if he'd rather rely on 100 people turning up drinking a cheaper beer or 1 person turning up drinking Champagne, he'd rather the former.
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Post by oldie on Aug 12, 2021 8:54:34 GMT
Sorry Clive It does not work like that. Morning Les,it's happening that way in hospitality,so why not elsewhere ? Morning Clive Firstly there has been no statistical evidence that free movement of labour drove down wage growth. What it did do was prevent wage inflation. Which, for those on lower incomes can be a good thing, if price inflation is equivalently low, which in general, it has been. The problem with input cost inflation is that output price inflation rises to a higher degree than wage inflation, this has a greater adverse effect on those on lower incomes. Then with rising inflation the BoE uses its usual blunt instrument and raises interest rates, which causes mortgage payments to rise. Again this adversely affects those on lower incomes the most, as mortgage costs form a higher percentage of their net incomes. So no, wage inflation without productivity gains is a delusion. All the while profits grow and wealth is transferred from labour to asset holders in ever increasing values, increasing an already dire situation in terms of inequality. We cannot even feed our kids properly for f**ks sake, whilst that Tory Party lady garden, Cameron, filches $10million from a bankrupt company that may cost us, the taxpayers, £300million. Dont get me started.
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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 12, 2021 10:46:22 GMT
Morning Les,it's happening that way in hospitality,so why not elsewhere ? Morning Clive Firstly there has been no statistical evidence that free movement of labour drove down wage growth. What it did do was prevent wage inflation. Which, for those on lower incomes can be a good thing, if price inflation is equivalently low, which in general, it has been. The problem with input cost inflation is that output price inflation rises to a higher degree than wage inflation, this has a greater adverse effect on those on lower incomes. Then with rising inflation the BoE uses its usual blunt instrument and raises interest rates, which causes mortgage payments to rise. Again this adversely affects those on lower incomes the most, as mortgage costs form a higher percentage of their net incomes. So no, wage inflation without productivity gains is a delusion. All the while profits grow and wealth is transferred from labour to asset holders in ever increasing values, increasing an already dire situation in terms of inequality. We cannot even feed our kids properly for f**ks sake, whilst that Tory Party lady garden, Cameron, filches $10million from a bankrupt company that may cost us, the taxpayers, £300million. Dont get me started. I recall some time ago there was a debate about the pros and cons of the then recent influx of Eastern Europeans. The upshot was that it was (economically) a net gain as it was thought something like 2% was kept off the BoE base rate.
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Post by trevorgas on Aug 12, 2021 10:47:12 GMT
Morning Les,it's happening that way in hospitality,so why not elsewhere ? Morning Clive Firstly there has been no statistical evidence that free movement of labour drove down wage growth. What it did do was prevent wage inflation. Which, for those on lower incomes can be a good thing, if price inflation is equivalently low, which in general, it has been. The problem with input cost inflation is that output price inflation rises to a higher degree than wage inflation, this has a greater adverse effect on those on lower incomes. Then with rising inflation the BoE uses its usual blunt instrument and raises interest rates, which causes mortgage payments to rise. Again this adversely affects those on lower incomes the most, as mortgage costs form a higher percentage of their net incomes. So no, wage inflation without productivity gains is a delusion. All the while profits grow and wealth is transferred from labour to asset holders in ever increasing values, increasing an already dire situation in terms of inequality. We cannot even feed our kids properly for f**ks sake, whilst that Tory Party lady garden, Cameron, filches $10million from a bankrupt company that may cost us, the taxpayers, £300million. Dont get me started. Thanks Les,I will leave it there as I can sense a rise in BP 😆
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Post by oldie on Aug 12, 2021 10:49:09 GMT
Morning Clive Firstly there has been no statistical evidence that free movement of labour drove down wage growth. What it did do was prevent wage inflation. Which, for those on lower incomes can be a good thing, if price inflation is equivalently low, which in general, it has been. The problem with input cost inflation is that output price inflation rises to a higher degree than wage inflation, this has a greater adverse effect on those on lower incomes. Then with rising inflation the BoE uses its usual blunt instrument and raises interest rates, which causes mortgage payments to rise. Again this adversely affects those on lower incomes the most, as mortgage costs form a higher percentage of their net incomes. So no, wage inflation without productivity gains is a delusion. All the while profits grow and wealth is transferred from labour to asset holders in ever increasing values, increasing an already dire situation in terms of inequality. We cannot even feed our kids properly for f**ks sake, whilst that Tory Party lady garden, Cameron, filches $10million from a bankrupt company that may cost us, the taxpayers, £300million. Dont get me started. I recall some time ago there was a debate about the pros and cons of the then recent influx of Eastern Europeans. The upshot was that it was (economically) a net gain as it was thought something like 2% was kept off the BoE base rate. Precisely Stuart. How long have some of us been saying this?
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Post by oldie on Aug 12, 2021 10:52:48 GMT
Morning Clive Firstly there has been no statistical evidence that free movement of labour drove down wage growth. What it did do was prevent wage inflation. Which, for those on lower incomes can be a good thing, if price inflation is equivalently low, which in general, it has been. The problem with input cost inflation is that output price inflation rises to a higher degree than wage inflation, this has a greater adverse effect on those on lower incomes. Then with rising inflation the BoE uses its usual blunt instrument and raises interest rates, which causes mortgage payments to rise. Again this adversely affects those on lower incomes the most, as mortgage costs form a higher percentage of their net incomes. So no, wage inflation without productivity gains is a delusion. All the while profits grow and wealth is transferred from labour to asset holders in ever increasing values, increasing an already dire situation in terms of inequality. We cannot even feed our kids properly for f**ks sake, whilst that Tory Party lady garden, Cameron, filches $10million from a bankrupt company that may cost us, the taxpayers, £300million. Dont get me started. Thanks Les,I will leave it there as I can sense a rise in BP 😆 😂😂😂 Funnily enough I had an Echocardiogram yesterday. They sent me home, they couldnt find it, a heart.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 12, 2021 11:37:30 GMT
Thanks Les,I will leave it there as I can sense a rise in BP 😆 😂😂😂 Funnily enough I had an Echocardiogram yesterday. They sent me home, they couldnt find it, a heart. Silly me , I thought BP stood for Brexit Prices 😃
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Post by francegas on Aug 12, 2021 12:01:47 GMT
Thanks Les,I will leave it there as I can sense a rise in BP 😆 😂😂😂 Funnily enough I had an Echocardiogram yesterday. They sent me home, they couldnt find it, a heart. No surprise there then Oldie.😂😂🍺🍺😎😎
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