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Post by stokegiffordgas on Jan 19, 2021 21:42:34 GMT
Problem as I see it all our defenders are slow paced, get caught out of position, slow to react and too often give the ball away in our final third, often unchallenged. In a decent defence one of them would get by but put 4 or 5 together in the same team you are in trouble. Whilst I agree we are short on firepower I think PTs top priority is to get at least 2 defenders in who have pace. We missed some flair tonight which Oztumer & Nicholson bring but I thought Luke was mom and I really hope we can sign him permanently.
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Post by terry on Jan 19, 2021 21:44:09 GMT
you have to ask yourself what you want from Bristol Rovers is it a 100 % commitment superb passing as we got tonight a great comeback or Rovers in the premiership
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Post by Gas-Ed on Jan 19, 2021 21:45:31 GMT
you have to ask yourself what you want from Bristol Rovers is it a 100 % commitment superb passing as we got tonight a great comeback or Rovers in the premiership Isn’t it past your bed time?
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Post by clockendgas on Jan 19, 2021 21:45:40 GMT
tony craig would make a huge difference in that defence, bad mistake getting rid imho.
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Post by CrispPusher on Jan 19, 2021 21:46:07 GMT
The way I see it we are lumbered with the rubbish Garner and Widdrington recruited for at least the remainder of this campaign, with this in mind the best we can realistically hope for is the recruitment of an experienced defensive coach (somebody like Tillson)?
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Post by twertonboy on Jan 19, 2021 21:46:42 GMT
I just don’t think Tisdale is the answer...his last two games have been shocking in team selection/tactics/substitutions...the gap is getting bigger from mid table to bottom half and we’re getting worse.
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jan 19, 2021 21:46:49 GMT
Tisdale lost us that before a ball had been kicked. Embarrassing starting XI. There’s no excuse to ever start a match with only 1 attacking player on the pitch. I’d expect us to be more adventurous than that if we were playing Man City, let alone Crewe. He ballsed that. He can only pick what’s available The blame lies with the board's decision to back Garner for much too long. Paul tisdale have been left with a division one squad that offers three strikers . Two are development players who never kicked a ball in div one or two and a 4th in line striker who is trying and burning himself out. How on earth did the board allow garner to sign a 4th left back ? Nearly 11 midfielders ?. Clubs know if you put two on hanlan then we have no other option in the strike force . This been going on for months . By running a division one club on one experienced striker is totally unacceptable . We don't know if our playing budget allows any more incoming? . If we go down that will be my reason !!.
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Post by singupgas on Jan 19, 2021 21:47:05 GMT
Sorry you can't concede 3 and be disappointed with the result. If I wasn't worried already, I can't see our fortunes changing with some really astute signings being made.
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Post by dukegas on Jan 19, 2021 21:47:49 GMT
Yes we miss Tony Craig , not the fastest but a good football brain
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Post by tbonegas on Jan 19, 2021 21:48:01 GMT
Never been impressed with him. His control of a football is awful, he loses the ball 99% of the time,and misses chances far too much. Sadly Ayunga doesn't appear to be up to the job either. But unless PT/TW come up with somebody better this month all we can do his support him and hope he scores the goals which keep us up. I do support him. I just don't rate him as highly as others on here. At least when Daly is playing he puts the opposition defenders under pressure. Hanlans lack of skill means that he doesn't offer so much of a threat.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Jan 19, 2021 21:49:05 GMT
He can only pick what’s available The blame lies with the board's decision to back Garner for much too long. Paul tisdale have been left with a division one squad that offers three strikers . Two are development players who never kicked a ball in div one or two and a 4th in line striker who is trying and burning himself out. How on earth did the board allow garner to sign a 4th left back ? Nearly 11 midfielders ?. Clubs know if you put two on hanlan then we have no other option in the strike force . This been going on for months . By running a division one club on one experienced striker is totally unacceptable . We don't know if our playing budget allows any more incoming? . If we go down that will be my reason !!. Completely agree. If we go down it’s down to a shambolic summer transfer window.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jan 19, 2021 21:49:55 GMT
I’m not sure how you can say we were unlucky with the awful defending we showed we were capable of tonight. Crewe sold 2 of their best players today, one of them their captain, any other team would have had 5 before half time. Maybe unlucky is the wrong word because as I said we shot ourselves in the foot with poor defending. Just thought that on another day we might of got something out of that game as in the second half we played well. Optimistic that with a few incomings and tweaks we can end this bad run we are on, but time shall tell. I know exactly what you mean, we cant really claim we were unlucky given the way we defended but we could easily have drawn that game and I dont think that would have been too unfair on Crewe. As always after a defeat there are massive over reactions on here, as an overall performance it wasnt bad at all, ultimately we've been punished again for defensive mistakes
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 19, 2021 21:50:00 GMT
I get why some people are saying the second half was encouraging & that we played well, but what did we have to lose at that point?
We were 2-0 down and had to throw everything at them to get back into it, which we did, and then we immediately went behind again & so had to throw everything at Crewe again to try and level the score. That’s the easy part.
It’s much harder to play well when a game is level.
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Post by ChiefStateGAS on Jan 19, 2021 21:51:39 GMT
tony craig would make a huge difference in that defence, bad mistake getting rid imho. Big mistake letting him go, he was still performing consistently well. Plenty of players over the years and even now with the likes of Ibrahimovic and Ronaldo have proven that so long as you look after yourself physically you can still compete well into your 30s. If he was in the team now I would not be worried about relegation.... or at least not so worried!
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Post by Jester on Jan 19, 2021 21:53:10 GMT
Thought for a few minutes I thought the boys might have rescued my thread, but sadly no. Too many goals conceded by poor marking from free kicks needlessly given away. Ehmer in the FB role is far too slow getting back and hasn't got the ability to get a telling ball into the box when he goes forward. Hanlon was giving them some problems, but too often he was on his own, I think if Daly or Nicholson was there it would be different, but he needs someone to play off him. Ayunga isn't the answer. We need another front man urgently! We also need a quick defender and I think we have just loaned out the player we needed to fit in at the back? Without both we are in another relegation scrap. Hope Ozzy is back for the weekend? We need at least him back to have any chance. I'll have a little break before I do another thread now. All yours GGMI!
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Post by oldmarket65 on Jan 19, 2021 22:02:08 GMT
I think it's wrong anyone blaming hanlan. He netted 8 times . When he wants support 90% of the time in past 3 months we have had NO strikers even on bench. A division one club with NO strikers in a squad of 18 on the bench ?.
And when we have it's a kid who was playing in same division as Chippenham a few months back . What do we expect ?.
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Post by Gassy on Jan 19, 2021 22:10:25 GMT
Bit of a joke of a comment tbh mate. Yes maybe ... but PT keeps saying he doesn’t know the players .... seven weeks on . So who is giving him the nod on people like Harries ahead of probably five other better options. I don’t know ... I wish Garners coaches had left with him tbh. The blame lies with PT if he doesn't know his players after 7 weeks and no one else. Imagine a new manager coming in over the summer and then saying after the first game that he doesn't know the players yet. That would be deemed unacceptable. I don't listen to interviews from managers these days as they just depress me, however - if he really has said he doesn't know them yet then whilst I don't agree with 1981's recent post about him writing in the papers, perhaps he actually should spend more time focusing on his squad, rather than writing articles in the papers. Unfortunately it sounds like we were poor yet again and we're in real danger of losing 6 in a row this time next week. We're already 2/3rds into the transfer window and don't seem to have made much/any progress. This was also after Tisdale confirmed to us that the Covid break allowed the club to sort themselves out on the transfer front. Garner seems to have got us in this mess, but Tisdale isn't getting us out of it. I'm not suggesting we sack him or anything, but I expect better and more from a man of his experience. Sadly my worries of him not having enough L1 experience is looking accurate.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 19, 2021 22:12:40 GMT
I get why some people are saying the second half was encouraging & that we played well, but what did we have to lose at that point? We were 2-0 down and had to throw everything at them to get back into it, which we did, and then we immediately went behind again & so had to throw everything at Crewe again to try and level the score. That’s the easy part. It’s much harder to play well when a game is level. Going forward we played reasonably well all game but at the back we always looked like conceding whenever Crewe attacked, PT tried something different by playing 5 at the back but then gets called out for playing a defensive line up! PT's inherited a poorly assembled squad, with no fit RB, CB's with no pace who all seem to like to ball watch, 4 LB 's, none of which are particularly good and one recognised striker who's only scored a handful of goals last season. Plus his hands a tied by the new squad numbers/salary restrictions.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 22:12:48 GMT
I get why some people are saying the second half was encouraging & that we played well, but what did we have to lose at that point? We were 2-0 down and had to throw everything at them to get back into it, which we did, and then we immediately went behind again & so had to throw everything at Crewe again to try and level the score. That’s the easy part. It’s much harder to play well when a game is level. Exactly, when was the last time you heard of us playing well and dominating a game at 0-0? Let’s not forget Crewe had a 4th cleared off the line. We can see from our stats that we don’t score enough and you can see from our stats that we give away too many so the midfield managing to dominate possession is neither here nor there because we can’t score and can’t defend. Addressing one of those areas in a January window is bad enough, addressing both of them is a damning indictment on “the best squad since promotion”.
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Post by terry on Jan 19, 2021 22:14:35 GMT
Robin Stubbs and Joe Gadston were the best strikers the Rovers had but even they never had 2defenders on them at all times . enjoy Hanlon while you can
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