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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 22:18:35 GMT
Yes maybe ... but PT keeps saying he doesn’t know the players .... seven weeks on . So who is giving him the nod on people like Harries ahead of probably five other better options. I don’t know ... I wish Garners coaches had left with him tbh. The blame lies with PT if he doesn't know his players after 7 weeks and no one else. Imagine a new manager coming in over the summer and then saying after the first game that he doesn't know the players yet. That would be deemed unacceptable. I don't listen to interviews from managers these days as they just depress me, however - if he really has said he doesn't know them yet then whilst I don't agree with 1981's recent post about him writing in the papers, perhaps he actually should spend more time focusing on his squad, rather than writing articles in the papers. Unfortunately it sounds like we were poor yet again and we're in real danger of losing 6 in a row this time next week. We're already 2/3rds into the transfer window and don't seem to have made much/any progress. This was also after Tisdale confirmed to us that the Covid break allowed the club to sort themselves out on the transfer front. Garner seems to have got us in this mess, but Tisdale isn't getting us out of it. I'm not suggesting we sack him or anything, but I expect better and more from a man of his experience. Sadly my worries of him not having enough L1 experience is looking accurate. Id expect much better of him than to be peddling excuses about not knowing the players. I’m not sure where that quote had come from so I’ll keep an open mind on that unless proof is produced. He’s been left with some utter crap though, let’s be fair. What on Earth was the club doing when Garner was filling his trolley with more full backs than strikers? There is culpability all through the club and Tisdale should cop for the least in my view. He might well be making a rod for his own back with so many defenders but he has hardly been left with a smorgasbord if attacking talents to take the game to the opposition. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 19, 2021 22:23:48 GMT
I get why some people are saying the second half was encouraging & that we played well, but what did we have to lose at that point? We were 2-0 down and had to throw everything at them to get back into it, which we did, and then we immediately went behind again & so had to throw everything at Crewe again to try and level the score. That’s the easy part. It’s much harder to play well when a game is level. Going forward we played reasonably well all game but at the back we always looked like conceding whenever Crewe attacked, PT tried something different by playing 5 at the back but then gets called out for playing a defensive line up! PT's inherited a poorly assembled squad, with no fit RB, CB's with no pace who all seem to like to ball watch, 4 LB 's, none of which are particularly good and one recognised striker who's only scored a handful of goals last season. Plus his hands a tied by the new squad numbers/salary restrictions. I don’t get your point, why can he not be called out for playing a defensive lineup? There’s playing a back 5 with two proper wingbacks (I.e Rodman & Koiki) and two up top (i.e Hanlan & Ayunga), and then there’s playing a back 5 with 4 centre backs - one of whom is playing RWB - two defensive midfielders in front of the back 5 and 1 forward. Dress it up however you like, it was an appalling XI in that first half that was never going to be able to provide the quality needed to create & score goals. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 19, 2021 22:34:57 GMT
I just don’t think Tisdale is the answer...his last two games have been shocking in team selection/tactics/substitutions...the gap is getting bigger from mid table to bottom half and we’re getting worse. I have to say he sounded like a defeated man tonight. I would try and picture DC after a defeat like that and he would always talk about fight, passion, enthusiasm and what he was going to do about it. But from Tis we get a very placated "I was very cross" and some rose tinted comment about us being brilliant when the majority of us saw the total opposite and questioned everything he has done this evening. |
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Post by socrates on Jan 19, 2021 22:45:12 GMT
Nothing unlucky about that at all. Yeah my head is spinning with the logic on here- we were the better side and unlucky to lose to a team who scored three and had one cleared off the line despite not playing better than a side who scored less goals? Have I got that right? If I have then **** me I’m glad Crewe didn’t turn up tonight because we would really have been in trouble. I thought crew were more organised defensively , had better technique and composure on the ball , had more possession in dangerous areas had more good chances to score and scored more goals than us. I really don’t think we were unlucky tonight. Dreadful defensively ? Yes. Short of leadership ? Yes Short of ideas and creativity? Yes Short of goal scoring players ? Yes Unlucky ? No. |
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Post by chilly1883 on Jan 19, 2021 23:05:26 GMT
Lots of little moaners again! Had Nicholson and oztumer played tonight ,we would have won tonight. Thought we played some decent football at times.
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Post by terry on Jan 19, 2021 23:05:38 GMT
Have i mistakenly strayed onto the bristol city forum or the BBC talking about the government please lighten up
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 19, 2021 23:13:22 GMT
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Post by CrispPusher on Jan 19, 2021 23:24:18 GMT
He says he's peed off with the defending for their third goal, but what's the betting he starts Baldwin again Saturday regardless? |
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Post by socrates on Jan 20, 2021 0:04:47 GMT
Sounds like Garner , talking about how we played well , probably because we had a fair bit of possession but how many really good chances did we have ? How clinical were we in both boxes ?
Crewe were more organised at the back and created more clear cut chances and deserved that.
You can’t defend like we did , create only a small handful of half chances and say you were unlucky or played well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 2:34:56 GMT
Sounds like Garner , talking about how we played well , probably because we had a fair bit of possession but how many really good chances did we have ? How clinical were we in both boxes ? Crewe were more organised at the back and created more clear cut chances and deserved that. You can’t defend like we did , create only a small handful of half chances and say you were unlucky or played well. We seem to be hearing this “we might have lost but we were the better team” nonsense a lot this season don’t we? Peterborough, Hull, tonight, etc etc. The fact we are pretty consistent at losing whilst playing so well makes me think that we are actually just rubbish and the opposition allows us to impose ourselves upon them because they know how rubbish we are and they can beat us without needing to get out of second gear. It’s either that or the table is lying. I know which one I believe.... |
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Post by RD on Jan 20, 2021 7:05:32 GMT
Wael has done a huge amount for this club but somehow, some way he needs to dig DEEP and splash the cash on a proven goalscorer at this level.
Much easier said than done of course and hugely unlikely. Only chance we have of staying up though.
Widdrington has an enormous amount to answer for. Horrendous recruitment.
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Post by thegasareback on Jan 20, 2021 7:32:00 GMT
I haven’t sifted through all 28 pages of this but I’m surprised no one is looking at Joe Day for the third goal. If you set a line on the 18 yard box your starting position needs to be higher. The guy headed it inside the 6 yard box chest high. I appreciate he’s a good shot stopper but there’s more to keeping than that.
If I knew Oz and Sammy would be back in a week I’d be really encouraged by tonight. A well Worked corner and a deflection could happen to any team. If Spurs were missing Kane and Son they’d struggle in the final third so it’s no wonder we lack that spark without our best two attacking players. My concern is their absences seem strange in a transfer window.
Compare that performance to some of the tosh we had previously. Let’s not forget Crewe are a decent side.
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Post by chilly1883 on Jan 20, 2021 7:34:59 GMT
Sounds like Garner , talking about how we played well , probably because we had a fair bit of possession but how many really good chances did we have ? How clinical were we in both boxes ? Crewe were more organised at the back and created more clear cut chances and deserved that. You can’t defend like we did , create only a small handful of half chances and say you were unlucky or played well. No they weren’t were more organised! They had one very good centre half in Omar bogles. Who pretty much defended everything! Your negativity is boring |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jan 20, 2021 7:37:09 GMT
I'll admit when I saw the line up I struggled to see us creating anything but we've had 16 attempts at goal so we've hardly been camped in our own half. I'll accept the majority weren't clear cut but it does prove we threatened a lot more than I thought we would. Personally I think the poor defending masks that we were a lot better going forward than against Charlton and probably in the majority of games under Garner. Having said that ultimately the only stat that matters is 3-2 and we cant keep giving away the sort of soft goals we have in the past 2 games
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Post by chilly1883 on Jan 20, 2021 7:41:02 GMT
Apologies Omar beckles
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jan 20, 2021 7:51:56 GMT
Joe Day is a fraud.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Jan 20, 2021 8:17:00 GMT
Lots of little moaners again! Had Nicholson and oztumer played tonight ,we would have won tonight. Thought we played some decent football at times. The trouble is, they weren’t available. Our squad is so badly assembled. Oztumer came here with a massive reputation and we all had high hopes of him, but if I’m honest I can’t tell you a game where he’s been anything other than alright. For the most part he’s been ineffective. Nicholson has probably missed as many games as he’s played. |
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Post by TAGas on Jan 20, 2021 8:27:22 GMT
Lots of little moaners again! Had Nicholson and oztumer played tonight ,we would have won tonight. Thought we played some decent football at times. Crewe lost some first team players last night during the game and their star player was sold to Cardiff but they still won |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 8:29:09 GMT
Hard to see in my opinion how that starting eleven could have been better considering the players out injured.
Some very poor defending was obviously the root cause of why we lost.
Thought we moved the ball from front to back very well but Crewe doubled up on Hanlon and although he battled well, he was well shackled.
Thought our worse performers were Baldwin, Kilgour, Upson and Grant, all guilty of ball watching and losing their attackers on many occasions.
The best we're McCormick, Westbrooke, Harries and Hanlon. Average we're Day, Ehmer, Leahy and the three subs.
We desperately missed Oztumer and Nicholson and need to bring in a big pacey centre forward and a better defensive midfielder who can offer us more than the likes of Upson and Grant do.
The squad is so unbalanced it's hard for Tisdale to sort the top heaviness in average players that Widdrington and Garner brought to the club, hence last night's seemingly strange starting eleven that so many on here are criticising him for.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jan 20, 2021 8:32:58 GMT
Lots of little moaners again! Had Nicholson and oztumer played tonight ,we would have won tonight. Thought we played some decent football at times. The trouble is, they weren’t available. Our squad is so badly assembled. Oztumer came here with a massive reputation and we all had high hopes of him, but if I’m honest I can’t tell you a game where he’s been anything other than alright. For the most part he’s been ineffective. Nicholson has probably missed as many games as he’s played. I don’t think Oztumer has done anything particularly eye-catching since joining but we miss him badly IMO. There’s no other player in our squad who can handle the ball so comfortably in tight situations (surrounded by 2/3 men etc.) and still manage to wriggle their way out of a scenario like that & then still find a teammate with a pass. And his movement without the ball is also different level to everyone else. Whenever one of our players has it in midfield or attack (or even defence sometimes) Oztumer is ALWAYS on the move, picking up pockets of space & giving the man on the ball a simple passing option to feet. He’s never just standing still and waiting for moves to develop around him as a lot of players at our level do. I’d like to see more goals & assists from him, but our performances are so much more fluid & joined-up when he’s on the pitch. |
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