|
|
Post by Gassy on Jan 26, 2021 21:24:54 GMT
Couldn't watch tonight, but sounds encouraging.
Tisdale said on the weekend that he knows what to do against Peterborough and fair play to him, he called that right.
Time to build on this, otherwise it means nothing.
|
|
|
|
Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Jan 26, 2021 21:25:36 GMT
Fantastic point and fully deserved, thought both Grant and Ogogo were outstanding that's definitely Grant's best game for us. The back 3 all had solid games I dont think any of us would have predicted we wouldnt concede before ko. Ayunga looked a real handful when he came on, we are still painfully short up front but imo he is worth persevering with.
Credit to Tisdale he was rightly criticised for the way we set up on Sat but he got things spot on tonight.
|
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Jan 26, 2021 21:26:26 GMT
Ogogo joined the club two years ago and I have always maintained that he was and is the clubs best midfield player, Ben didn't want him - what on earth was he thinking of. Not sure how much of last season you watched? Ogogo is a scapper with very limited ball playing skills. Tonight he was fine but hardly a performance that suggests he is our best midfielder. In terms of roll your sleeves up get stuck in and help our younger midfielders, and give a captains performance which is exactly what Abu did tonight I think you’ll find he probably is the most important midfielder in our squad currently. All season most of us have been saying that Westbrooke has got potential Grant has got potential but they’ve had no leader. In winter in a relegation scrap you need a tough leader on the middle. Tonight we had that. Ehmer to me looks slow accident prone and doesn’t install confidence or leadership in the team. Abu is a beast , he’s experienced and he was born for what we now face in the next four months and if you want proof look at last time we were in a relegation scrap it wasn’t long ago. , |
|
|
|
Post by chewbacca on Jan 26, 2021 21:27:26 GMT
Proper grafting effort that, could have potentially won it as well. Much, much better.
|
|
|
|
Post by Goose on Jan 26, 2021 21:28:01 GMT
Couldn't watch tonight, but just saw highlights on sky sports... Firstly that pitch is an embarrassment, more like a non League rugby pitch.....
Secondly with the highlights, the fact that there were as many for both teams shows it was an even game..
Great result guys. I predicted a hammering, but glad to be wrong
|
|
|
|
Post by lympstonegas on Jan 26, 2021 21:28:11 GMT
Superb point Just need Fleetwood to win for a perfect set of results....... Let’s hope so Need to stop Rochdale freescoring now as their defence is as leaky as ours can be |
|
|
|
Post by yaz on Jan 26, 2021 21:28:40 GMT
A Great point away to a very good Posh side. After 10 minutes it looked like it could be a long night but we grew into the game and having Oz and Nicholson back was a big positive. Ayunga looked handful when he came on the one guy that does frustrate me is Hanlon who continually gave the ball away,fell over and just dosent do the basic stuff well. I can't fault his effort though he gives 100% every game. Time to build on this and with the bench looking stronger with players back from injury we can move away from the threat of relegation. Completely disagree about Hanlan. Gives 100% and comes back to defend. Not his fault that ref was being conned by their defenders! Hanlan is not a dirty player; he plays fair but gets too many decisions against him!when he has done nothing! Ref was ok 1st half but terrible 2nd as easily conned by them Westbrook is not a player for a muddy pitch! McCormick or Hargreaves type player with pace would have been much better especially coming back to defend? Overall a good formation and we made a top table team look ordinary at times. Our marking was much better but still need to close up at throw ins so that they do not have easy balls. Too much room given. |
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Jan 26, 2021 21:28:52 GMT
As has been said before it seems like we scouted stats not temperament. He’s probably great in a winning team like with Coventry, in a poor team with few if any natural leaders his standards get dragged down by everyone else’s. Doesn't explain why he was poor tonight, when every player was on top of their game, even Ayunga looked OK when he came on. He's turning into another Bennett, just taking the p. on a decent contract. He’s a young Chris lines all over again. Chris lines second time had to get stuck in more had to work hard and was brilliant in our back to back promotions, if he hadn’t worked hard there’s no way DC would have picked him. Westbrooke has got the set pieces and likes the nice pitches. Bench him for now. |
|
|
|
Post by bridgwatergas on Jan 26, 2021 21:28:52 GMT
Ogogo joined the club two years ago and I have always maintained that he was and is the clubs best midfield player, Ben didn't want him - what on earth was he thinking of. Not sure how much of last season you watched? Ogogo is a scapper with very limited ball playing skills. Tonight he was fine but hardly a performance that suggests he is our best midfielder. Agreed still don't understand the AO love in I thought Grant was superb but I have always rated him. |
|
|
|
Post by lisbongas on Jan 26, 2021 21:32:20 GMT
As has been said before it seems like we scouted stats not temperament. He’s probably great in a winning team like with Coventry, in a poor team with few if any natural leaders his standards get dragged down by everyone else’s. Doesn't explain why he was poor tonight, when every player was on top of their game, even Ayunga looked OK when he came on. He's turning into another Bennett, just taking the p. on a decent contract. You are talking nonsense! Westbrooke came on with 25 mins to go, all around him on both sides players were giving the ball away losing their feet and generally failing to control play. Westbrooke came on got involved held the ball up made a few interceptions and yes also gave the ball away. But give the lad abreak. How many players in tonights conditions would have looked worldbeaters. |
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Jan 26, 2021 21:32:37 GMT
A Great point away to a very good Posh side. After 10 minutes it looked like it could be a long night but we grew into the game and having Oz and Nicholson back was a big positive. Ayunga looked handful when he came on the one guy that does frustrate me is Hanlon who continually gave the ball away,fell over and just dosent do the basic stuff well. I can't fault his effort though he gives 100% every game. Time to build on this and with the bench looking stronger with players back from injury we can move away from the threat of relegation. Completely disagree about Hanlan. Gives 100% and comes back to defend. Not his fault that ref was being conned by their defenders! Hanlan is not a dirty player; he plays fair but gets too many decisions against him!when he has done nothing! Ref was ok 1st half but terrible 2nd as easily conned by them Westbrook is not a player for a muddy pitch! McCormick or Hargreaves type player with pace would have been much better especially coming back to defend? Overall a good formation and we made a top table team look ordinary at times. Our marking was much better but still need to close up at throw ins so that they do not have easy balls. Too much room given. Hanlan been brilliant for us all season leading the line on his own but has been poor for us the last few games which goes to show he’s not superman or Drogba. He’s a good league 1 frontman who works his arse off and has all season and is clearly knackered from playing Saturday Tuesday all season up front on his own. |
|
|
|
Post by oddsongas on Jan 26, 2021 21:33:28 GMT
I thought Baldwin was brilliant tonight. Won everything that came his way and looking to break forward with the ball all night.
|
|
|
|
Post by socrates on Jan 26, 2021 21:33:33 GMT
Doesn't explain why he was poor tonight, when every player was on top of their game, even Ayunga looked OK when he came on. He's turning into another Bennett, just taking the p. on a decent contract. You are talking nonsense! Westbrooke came on with 25 mins to go, all around him on both sides players were giving the ball away losing their feet and generally failing to control play. Westbrooke came on got involved held the ball up made a few interceptions and yes also gave the ball away. But give the lad abreak. How many players in tonights conditions would have looked worldbeaters. Westbrookes a good passer but he’s a complete fanny. |
|
|
|
Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jan 26, 2021 21:37:45 GMT
You are talking nonsense! Westbrooke came on with 25 mins to go, all around him on both sides players were giving the ball away losing their feet and generally failing to control play. Westbrooke came on got involved held the ball up made a few interceptions and yes also gave the ball away. But give the lad abreak. How many players in tonights conditions would have looked worldbeaters. Westbrookes a good passer but he’s a complete fanny. Most disappointing signing for me. I was really excited when we signed him but he flatters to deceive. Hard work beats talent whne talent doesn't work hard (Ogogo vs Westbrooke for example). |
|
|
|
Post by onedaygas83 on Jan 26, 2021 21:38:57 GMT
Great performance tonight considering our recent slump but it just goes to show how influential Ozzy and Nicholson are for us because we were completely in control when both were playing and yet as soon as they were subbed we were playing with our backs to the wall. We desperately need to keep hold of Sam and tie up Ozzy on a permanent for next season as the thought of not have those 2 which in my opinion are the most influential makes me feel very uncomfortable going forward.
|
|
|
|
Post by bridgwatergas on Jan 26, 2021 21:39:45 GMT
A Great point away to a very good Posh side. After 10 minutes it looked like it could be a long night but we grew into the game and having Oz and Nicholson back was a big positive. Ayunga looked handful when he came on the one guy that does frustrate me is Hanlon who continually gave the ball away,fell over and just dosent do the basic stuff well. I can't fault his effort though he gives 100% every game. Time to build on this and with the bench looking stronger with players back from injury we can move away from the threat of relegation. Completely disagree about Hanlan. Gives 100% and comes back to defend. Not his fault that ref was being conned by their defenders! Hanlan is not a dirty player; he plays fair but gets too many decisions against him!when he has done nothing! Ref was ok 1st half but terrible 2nd as easily conned by them Westbrook is not a player for a muddy pitch! McCormick or Hargreaves type player with pace would have been much better especially coming back to defend? Overall a good formation and we made a top table team look ordinary at times. Our marking was much better but still need to close up at throw ins so that they do not have easy balls. Too much room given. It his general play that's lacking for me. He dosent hold the ball up well as many says he does and his passing is poor. There was also a chance near the end when Williams has put a great ball back over and he didnt put the defender under pressure to clear. A real hungry striker is all over the defender trying to force the ball in or a mistake. It's not just tonight's game it's been happening alot lately and for me he is not a striker but time will tell as he is still fairly young. |
|
|
|
Post by lisbongas on Jan 26, 2021 21:39:58 GMT
A Great point away to a very good Posh side. After 10 minutes it looked like it could be a long night but we grew into the game and having Oz and Nicholson back was a big positive. Ayunga looked handful when he came on the one guy that does frustrate me is Hanlon who continually gave the ball away,fell over and just dosent do the basic stuff well. I can't fault his effort though he gives 100% every game. Time to build on this and with the bench looking stronger with players back from injury we can move away from the threat of relegation. Completely disagree about Hanlan. Gives 100% and comes back to defend. Not his fault that ref was being conned by their defenders! Hanlan is not a dirty player; he plays fair but gets too many decisions against him!when he has done nothing! Ref was ok 1st half but terrible 2nd as easily conned by them Westbrook is not a player for a muddy pitch! McCormick or Hargreaves type player with pace would have been much better especially coming back to defend? Overall a good formation and we made a top table team look ordinary at times. Our marking was much better but still need to close up at throw ins so that they do not have easy balls. Too much room given. Not sure I understand the rationale to your thinking here. Westbrooke came on didn´t do much wrong and held the ball up, we didn´t lose so why was he wrong choice, seems to me PT was content to take a draw at that stage. I guess you are saying McCormick (who I think with nicholson has been our best player this season) or Hargreaves would have won us the game? |
|
|
|
Post by yaz on Jan 26, 2021 21:41:06 GMT
You are talking nonsense! Westbrooke came on with 25 mins to go, all around him on both sides players were giving the ball away losing their feet and generally failing to control play. Westbrooke came on got involved held the ball up made a few interceptions and yes also gave the ball away. But give the lad abreak. How many players in tonights conditions would have looked worldbeaters. Westbrookes a good passer but he’s a complete fanny. His passing has been terrible last few games! Simple passes most school boys could do and ...... And he is so slow in working out where he is ? Grant for a change was passing the ball forwards and not backwards most of the time! As regards our throw ins if no options throw it forwards long rather than backwards! |
|
|
|
Post by gulfofaden on Jan 26, 2021 21:42:25 GMT
You are talking nonsense! Westbrooke came on with 25 mins to go, all around him on both sides players were giving the ball away losing their feet and generally failing to control play. Westbrooke came on got involved held the ball up made a few interceptions and yes also gave the ball away. But give the lad abreak. How many players in tonights conditions would have looked worldbeaters. Westbrookes a good passer but he’s a complete fanny. Whilst I wouldn’t word it this way, I have to agree. He is absolute quality with his set pieces and he is a very tidy on the deck footballer. He would work tons better with Oz and Nicholson as he needs similarly good players with him so he can work triangles with them. He is, however, reluctant to challenge and he would be a much better player if he put himself about a bit. I would persevere with him, quality is a hard thing to find in these leagues and if we can get westbroke to improve I think he’d be overpowered for this league in some aspects of his game. On tonight though, he was rubbish. He hasn’t had a good game for a while. |
|
|
|
Post by bridgwatergas on Jan 26, 2021 21:43:22 GMT
Doesn't explain why he was poor tonight, when every player was on top of their game, even Ayunga looked OK when he came on. He's turning into another Bennett, just taking the p. on a decent contract. You are talking nonsense! Westbrooke came on with 25 mins to go, all around him on both sides players were giving the ball away losing their feet and generally failing to control play. Westbrooke came on got involved held the ball up made a few interceptions and yes also gave the ball away. But give the lad abreak. How many players in tonights conditions would have looked worldbeaters. Westbrooke is a far better player when Oz and Nicholson start and the 3 combine superbly. I think he is a scapegoat for some as he dosent put in the hard tackles but thay was never his game. Tonight as the game went on players were finding it difficult to play on the pitch and keep there footing. Some have also slated Ayunga who won headers and held the ball up better than Hanlon did. |
|
