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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2021 23:40:32 GMT
Ok - tonight is dreadful. The run we’re on is dreadful and this is the worst of the lot. Eventually though we’re going to have to stick with a manager, let him build his own team and run with it. We’ve got players and coaches from Clarke, Coughlan, Garner and now Tisdale. Sack Tisdale, fine, but someone is going to need to work with this lot, weed out the deadwood and start again, and we’re going to have to put up with some crap until they do that Yes, that’s about it. Someone said Tis has upset the players, good, after the last few performances someone needed to and I think it’s the managers job to sort them out. I’ve avoided commenting much because it was a poor performance without any fight or any heart and left me like everyone else, angry, so it’s best to avoid commenting when it’s like that. It was embarrassing for the team tonight, sacking another manager after two months would just make the club a laughing stock. We stick with him and let him do his job. You can’t keep sacking managers. Can’t think of any plus points tonight but perhaps it was so bad Tis will have to make changes, esp at CH and get back to basics in terms of defending. As we've just lost 6-1 to Accrington I sense we'll be a"laughing stock" whether we sack Tisdale or not. I honestly can't see how he can now turn this around. |
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Post by yaz on Feb 2, 2021 23:49:27 GMT
I've been following Rovers home and away for 40 years and I can't remember many worse performances than that. Accrington could have had 10! Most worrying of all is the lack of fight shown but most of the players. The lack of fight has been obvious in so many games this season apart from a few individuals playing in their lonesome? What is worse is that there is no heart and passion from this new team; not helped by the lack of fans who could have helped them by pushing them on! Of course, most of them have not (consistently) shown that they are L1 players currently (let alone L2). Most of the Other L1 teams play as a team and seem to have more skilful, imaginative and creative players! The amount of wayward basic passes we give away is horrific. Most of our midfield players cannot head a ball properly to another team player? To be honest, this must be one of the worst squads we have had in whichever way you look at it? The defence is a joke! So many times we have had upwards of 7 and 8 players in the 6 yard box defending set pieces and conceded from loose balls because we don’t pick these up. Defence backs off too much and gives opposition too much room and freedom. Our marking at throw ins is terrible compared to the opposition. In just about every game the opposing team is able to throw the ball comfortably to another of their players while they mark us tightly when we have throw ins? Westbrook for a change had a much more positive game going forward today but who in their right mind would play him in front of the defence as has happened in previous games. He cannot mark or tackle. We do create chances but unlike opposition we don’t score as many as other teams with similar chances. Some of the goals we concede are so stupid but also very bad luck? I feel sorry for players like Nicholson and Hanlan playing in a team with the players we have. Early on in the season I said that Accy looked a useful team for an outside bet at promotion. This still stands although Gills could also be dark horses and are a very tough team to beat. A few weeks ago we had quite a few games in hand but not now. We would have been in a far worse position than we are but are lucky that some of the other teams have not been winning? That will not continue for long so unless we get going we are going to get dumped out of L1. |
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 3, 2021 1:35:34 GMT
What a rubbish two days. Waiting around for non existent transfer’s yesterday. Waiting to see if the game is on tonight and then getting hammered 6-1. To top it off the commentator called us Bristol C**y a few times!!! To be fair I thought they were decent particularly given the result, just imagine if it had been the two clowns from P'boor or even Brookman trying to put a positive spin on the game. The commentary overall was good. They had good knowledge and were a lot better than most. Just didn’t like being called Bristol c**y |
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Post by gregsy on Feb 3, 2021 4:09:16 GMT
Just woke up at 4am....
Had a terrible nightmare last night that we got humiliated 6-1 by Accrington stanley....
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Post by gregsy on Feb 3, 2021 4:09:40 GMT
Oh sh1t....
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Post by Qatar Gas on Feb 3, 2021 4:46:34 GMT
With the later kick off I decided not to stay up late so went to bed and missed my first league game of the season.
So glad I made that choice! When I woke up and saw over 50 pages on the match day thread I instantly knew something bad had happened! I couldn't believe it could actually be as bad as it turned out though!
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Post by Gasshole on Feb 3, 2021 4:53:17 GMT
Jock’ll be proud  |
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Post by Gasshole on Feb 3, 2021 5:11:02 GMT
Why on earth would he come back to us ? He is moving up the table at Walsaw has been backed despite an iffy start and is playing in a stadium much better than the Mem. Given we are likely to be a L2 team in free fall with a lot of players who have failed still under contract for next year ..... Maybe he’s missing the Fox sh1t |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Feb 3, 2021 6:47:56 GMT
Those players were very lucky there weren’t a couple of hundred cold, wet Gasheads behind the goal. I think it would have been pretty toxic tonight. I honestly think that's what this lot need to wake up and see how much of a shambles they are. |
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 3, 2021 8:25:20 GMT
The “poor squad” talk doesn’t cut it for me when blaming the performance.
Jakkola
Little
Hare
Kilgour
Leahy
Kelly
Upson
All here under GC. All played this season (other than Kelly)
Ehmer
Baldwin
Williams
Signed under BG
100s of league one games experience between them.
Players majority agree have done well signed under BG:
Daly
Nicholson
McCormick
Hanlan
Players that are possibles:
Oztumer
Grant
Dave T
Koiki
The players I believe we miss and shouldn’t have sold:
Craig
Clarke
JCH
People may say Nichols now or sercombe but these were highly paid players who were really underperforming for us.
JCH wanted to go so there are, as I see it the following issues:
1. Letting Clarke and Craig leave.
2. Not replacing JCH after two windows.
Not replacing JCH was criminal and after two windows we have to lay that at Widdringtons door.
Letting Clarke and Craig go will have to sit with BG.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Feb 3, 2021 8:33:22 GMT
Lets all have a meltdown la la la la You do realise the score? You do realise the table? You do realise you can’t stick your head in the sand forever? Of course I do but going mental does not solve anything ~ do you not realise that ? |
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Post by Quarters on Feb 3, 2021 8:50:55 GMT
The “poor squad” talk doesn’t cut it for me when blaming the performance. Jakkola Little Hare Kilgour Leahy Kelly Upson All here under GC. All played this season (other than Kelly) Ehmer Baldwin Williams Signed under BG 100s of league one games experience between them. Players majority agree have done well signed under BG: Daly Nicholson McCormick Hanlan Players that are possibles: Oztumer Grant Dave T Koiki The players I believe we miss and shouldn’t have sold: Craig Clarke JCH People may say Nichols now or sercombe but these were highly paid players who were really underperforming for us. JCH wanted to go so there are, as I see it the following issues: 1. Letting Clarke and Craig leave. 2. Not replacing JCH after two windows. Not replacing JCH was criminal and after two windows we have to lay that at Widdringtons door. Letting Clarke and Craig go will have to sit with BG. Clarke was offered a contract, and I assume a testimonial season. I think testimonial income is tax free so would have been a bonus for him, maybe nothing for his agent! |
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 3, 2021 8:54:07 GMT
Says a lot when Westbrook had more enthusiasm then ehmer grant and otzumer
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Post by Quarters on Feb 3, 2021 8:54:16 GMT
Re Ayunga, has he beefed up since his injury? Looks to be too muscle bound and cannot move freely. Too much work in gym while unable to run?
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Post by gasbath on Feb 3, 2021 9:04:52 GMT
I love going into work on a Monday & Wednesday and get constant belters
But my cavate is we operate within the "FFP" rules !!
Stick that up your pipe and smoke it
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Post by Jester on Feb 3, 2021 11:07:31 GMT
Well all, I did say my head said we were gonna lose, but I didn't expect that! I thought that he would play a similar side to last week against Posh (-Ogogo), hope to keep it tight for the first half, start to frustrate them and hold out for a draw, but that all went out of the window because of rank bad defending, of which Ehmer was the chief culprit. Whoever thought he was captain material (BG?) must need a good talking to. He doesn't tackle, rarely wins a header, turns his back on the ball, always passes the ball on instead of doing anything constructive and sometimes runs upfield, only to wander back when we lose it. I'm not saying that it's solely down to him, but he's meant to be the captain, the leader. Where's Tony Craig when you need him (I know Crawley, and it appears he's doing a good job there?)? At least Baldwin shows a bit of commitment, why he didn't bring him on, I don't know.
We did show some attacking threat in the first half (even the commentators were saying that it could easily have been 4-3, or 4-4, at half time), but Ayunga showed again that he's not ready for this standard and Daly looked 'rusty'. I understand the changes, but when Nicholson came off (Maybe he was 'protecting' him and Hanlon for Saturday?) we lost any of the attacking threat we had. As many others have said PT may well have 'lost the dressing room' and if so, we are in deep sh*t and I can't see a way out of it, short of recalling Tom Davies to shore up the middle and getting rid of Ehmer!
I will continue watching from afar and maybe leave the match threads to GGMI and some other brave people, as I'm totally disillusioned after last night.......my team have let me and all of us down!
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Feb 3, 2021 11:34:35 GMT
I'm gutted, very gutted with what happened last night. When we saw the team sheet we thought, yeah that is a pretty strong XI. Shape seemed like a good idea (back 4) and what we were calling for and Brucey bonus of Daly returning to the Bench, so all seemed good. Then it became very apparent that Accy had seriously done their home work. All season we have been defensively wobbly... set pieces, route 1 passes and balls into the danger areas have all caused us problems and goals against. They just endlessly hit us with that, over and over again. With Ogogo missing they knew we had no bite in midfield and were not afraid of us at all. Up top, they knew we didn't get our target man and that Hanlan hasn't won aerial battles all season so they didn't let him turn much like all the other teams that have figured him out and it was plain sailing for them from then on. I'm not saying we didn't create as we did a bit in the first half. Then every sub saw creative player after creative player removed from the pitch (for what ever reason) and we know how the game ended. Changes are to be made for the next game but who for who? Another shape change? This is a nightmare. Seemingly no out and out defensive coach since GC became manager, no GK coach after Bobby D had to leave. I am a rose tinter of the highest order... I always see the best in people and I give people way more chances than some say they deserve... but even I can't take positives away from what we seem to be right now. I can look to my stats for comfort but as you can see from these attachments... it's not helping!  The next game against Fleetwood is massive but based on the fact that they beat us 4-1 when we were playing a bit better lord only knows what is going to happen. Assuming the players have a day off today to recover its 2 days of training to 'go back to basics/page 1' of how to play football - can that even be a thing? I'll no doubt spend some time tomorrow doing another "what to expect from Fleetwood" post but for now... I am wracking my brains as to come with a plan. The next 10-12 games are probably the most important of the season now with games against the teams below us. Got to come out and do something different and fast! |
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Post by hardingegas on Feb 3, 2021 15:36:14 GMT
Accrington certainly did their homework and hit us where it hurt.
We badly missed Ogogo who was outstanding against Peterborough and sadly we've got no-one to replace him.
What I can't understand is how Ehmer, who's played 300+ games at this level, has suddenly become a nervous wreck and a liability.
I'm not a fan of 5-3-2 but we're going to have to revert to that and have defensive minded players in that middle three (if we've got any?), dispense with luxury players like Westbrooke and Oztumer and hit teams on the break with Hanlan and Nicholson up top. As Coughlan found, it's the only way to grind out results.
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Post by Gas-Ed on Feb 3, 2021 16:00:05 GMT
Accrington certainly did their homework and hit us where it hurt. We badly missed Ogogo who was outstanding against Peterborough and sadly we've got no-one to replace him. What I can't understand is how Ehmer, who's played 300+ games at this level, has suddenly become a nervous wreck and a liability. I'm not a fan of 5-3-2 but we're going to have to revert to that and have defensive minded players in that middle three (if we've got any?), dispense with luxury players like Westbrooke and Oztumer and hit teams on the break with Hanlan and Nicholson up top. As Coughlan found, it's the only way to grind out results. I just can’t understand Ehmer. He looks like he cannot he bothered. Has he downed his tools? He cannot keep the captaincy after last night. I’m surprised they let him back on the coach. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 3, 2021 18:02:45 GMT
Accrington certainly did their homework and hit us where it hurt. 'Bang a few mindless balls into their box and see what happens.' |
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