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Post by Gassy on Feb 9, 2021 22:31:36 GMT
We were scoring goals a month ago. We had Nicholson, Oztumer, McCormick in the same team and Hanlon was scoring as well. We gave a full strength Sheffield United a good game too. Why has Tisdale dismantled that, and gone back to what got Garner the sack? It's alright saying you're not a magician, but why has he seemingly moved away from that when it's proved it's worked? Makes no sense. Absolutely bang on mate
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 22:35:13 GMT
Remember him saying that no goal scorers are about in jan that don’t improve our 11. Why couldn’t we have got Elliott lee, scored first shot today. Tisdale chats waffle It’s a load of rubbish. How can Tisdale say he couldn’t find a single striker out there higher quality than Ayunga? PT told us during our Covid outbreak that it gave him the chance to confirm our transfer strategy with Starnes. He ended up signing Day (who’s worse than JVS) and his mate from his previous club. Some plan, fhat. But surely Tisdale wouldn’t be looking for the player directly? He would give his requirements to TW who would consult his database for suitable players within the criteria and price? The only thing I can see Tisdale being guilty of is telling the board he couldn’t improve on perfection and didn’t want new players. Is that likely?
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Feb 9, 2021 22:36:29 GMT
You can see why people are frustrated with that interview, we’ve just suffered our 8th loss in 10 games and he starts off by saying we were really really good. It’s a bit disheartening really. Agree with him on our strikers though, simply not good enough in that area of the pitch No we aren't good enough in forward areas but personally I don't think that's something he needs to be publicly stating. Unless we're going to find an out of contract striker those players hes just told us all aren't good enough are the ones we are relying on to keep us up. Hardly a confidence boost for them I'd suggest
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 22:36:59 GMT
We were scoring goals a month ago. We had Nicholson, Oztumer, McCormick in the same team and Hanlon was scoring as well. We gave a full strength Sheffield United a good game too. Why has Tisdale dismantled that, and gone back to what got Garner the sack? It's alright saying you're not a magician, but why has he seemingly moved away from that when it's proved it's worked? Makes no sense. Absolutely bang on mate That’s what Tisdale can be blamed for imo, the recruitment process isn’t just his remit, but people seem reluctant to question the whole process and just assume it was the manager who couldn’t get the deals over the line even though we have a head of recruitment.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 9, 2021 22:37:41 GMT
It’s a load of rubbish. How can Tisdale say he couldn’t find a single striker out there higher quality than Ayunga? PT told us during our Covid outbreak that it gave him the chance to confirm our transfer strategy with Starnes. He ended up signing Day (who’s worse than JVS) and his mate from his previous club. Some plan, fhat. But surely Tisdale wouldn’t be looking for the player directly? He would give his requirements to TW who would consult his database for suitable players within the criteria and price? The only thing I can see Tisdale being guilty of is telling the board he couldn’t improve on perfection and didn’t want new players. Is that likely? I imagine he brought Williams himself? He must have an idea at times surely.
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Post by Gassy on Feb 9, 2021 22:39:30 GMT
That’s what Tisdale can be blamed for imo, the recruitment process isn’t just his remit, but people seem reluctant to question the whole process and just assume it was the manager who couldn’t get the deals over the line even though we have a head of recruitment. I think it’s everything together tbh. Recruitment less of his role, but he must still be involved. He also has to sell the club to players don’t forget. But yeah main priority is the performances. He’s shown us on rare occasions that there is a winning formula with this squad. So why doesn’t he play it?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 9, 2021 22:49:02 GMT
Thought it was a decent interview, myself. Bear in mind he's talking to the players, not to all the lady gardens on here. I thought the talking to players would be in the dressing room. These press interviews are for all us lady gardens on here aren't they? He can't tell everyone in the dressing room that they're doing well and making progress and then come out and tell us they're sh**e, can he?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 22:49:26 GMT
Certainly sounded like he was suggesting that it wasn't his fault for Striker being signed and can only work with the kids. It is ridiculous if he was trying to get a striker in and it was being blocked. Seeming he publicly said in January the club was doing all it could to help him get a striker I think he is once again deflecting away from his own shortcomings.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 22:50:11 GMT
Would he come here or go to Oxford if he had been asked? They only went for him last day of the window Wasn’t Stockley our main target and Sam Frost believed we were genuine contenders until Charlton came in? Can’t remember anyone on here suggesting Lee and there would probably have been uproar if we’d dropped our interest in Stockley before he’d made his decision to pursue Lee? January is a terrible time to be desperately trying to improve your squad. Problem goes a lot further back to the summer when we went into the season with an unbalanced squad. Apart from Stockley I don’t think there were many names being thrown about that will have led to fan excitement.
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Post by axegas on Feb 9, 2021 22:51:59 GMT
You can see why people are frustrated with that interview, we’ve just suffered our 8th loss in 10 games and he starts off by saying we were really really good. It’s a bit disheartening really. Agree with him on our strikers though, simply not good enough in that area of the pitch No we aren't good enough in forward areas but personally I don't think that's something he needs to be publicly stating. Unless we're going to find an out of contract striker those players hes just told us all aren't good enough are the ones we are relying on to keep us up. Hardly a confidence boost for them I'd suggest It could be that Tisdale was trying to fire them up, I expect they’ll want to prove him wrong now. The way he framed it too, saying that we were really really good but the strikers let us down, if you’re Daly or Hanlan listening to that you’re going to want to show your worth to the team.
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Post by Jomo on Feb 9, 2021 22:52:01 GMT
We were scoring goals a month ago. We had Nicholson, Oztumer, McCormick in the same team and Hanlon was scoring as well. We gave a full strength Sheffield United a good game too. Why has Tisdale dismantled that, and gone back to what got Garner the sack? It's alright saying you're not a magician, but why has he seemingly moved away from that when it's proved it's worked? Makes no sense. This is what I don't understand. The team was creating chances and scoring goals, and since the Blackpool game we've completely gone off the rails and in my view it's in no small part down to Tisdale constantly chopping and changing with formations and personnel. His comment about the strikers not being good enough was poor too IMO.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Feb 9, 2021 22:53:01 GMT
Thought it was a decent interview, myself. Bear in mind he's talking to the players, not to all the lady gardens on here. Totally agree. I’ve read the comments on here and then seen the interview and can’t reconcile the two. I like the passion and the way he defended the team, who didn’t play badly tonight. He’s right about the strikers but he’s going to have to get some confidence into them somehow and that’s the one part of the interview I would question. Must surely still be the chance of picking up a free agent striker somewhere?
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 9, 2021 22:57:36 GMT
Remember him saying that no goal scorers are about in jan that don’t improve our 11. Why couldn’t we have got Elliott lee, scored first shot today. Tisdale chats waffle It’s a load of rubbish. How can Tisdale say he couldn’t find a single striker out there higher quality than Ayunga? PT told us during our Covid outbreak that it gave him the chance to confirm our transfer strategy with Starnes. He ended up signing Day (who’s worse than JVS) and his mate from his previous club. Some plan, fhat. Who actually signs the players though, PT or the Head of Recruitment/Director of Football? Would PT really risk relegation/the sack if there were strikers we could afford/sign?
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 9, 2021 23:01:00 GMT
I thought the talking to players would be in the dressing room. These press interviews are for all us lady gardens on here aren't they? He can't tell everyone in the dressing room that they're doing well and making progress and then come out and tell us they're sh**e, can he? We're not making progress though are we? Just be honest, no need to be sending out subliminal messages when it's obvious we weren't 'Fantastic'. Be honest and explain why you've dismantled a formula that was working and had us playing well and scoring goals, to a system that got the previous manager the sack. Why are you chopping and changing? He didn't hold back with the criticism after the Accrington game did he? Because it was obvious for everybody to see.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 23:03:51 GMT
As predicted, after a defeat against the in form team in the league who, to be frank, none of us thought we’d beat and despite us putting in a fairly decent performance and more than matching Oxford - if not shading it and deserving more; we have the usual suspects who have never wanted Tisdale (for whatever reason), demanding he goes and calling him a fraud.
I watched the match and listened to the interview and I agree with him. In the main we played well. We defended resolutely, we won the majority of the midfield battles and we created a number of decent chances. Our finishing cost us - Daly missed 2 good chances, Nicholson shot wide and also tamely and McCormick missed to glorious chances. Grant also had a daisy cutter he should have done a lot better with.
Tis is right that we have strikers for the future - all 3 (Daly, Hanlan and Ayunga) are all very young, lack experience and therefore don’t make the right decisions and lack composure. We do have the makings of a decent team, but we lack that final finesse and clinical finishing at the moment.
For all those who want Tis out, who would you replace him with - needs to be a realistic choice (so probably a manager who is currently out of work) and personally I would not go with Holloway as in my opinion his time has past and he wouldn’t be successful.
For me, I’d stick with Tis this and next season irrespective and I do think we’ll be safe. Even if we are relegated, I think we’d be promoted the next season.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 9, 2021 23:12:45 GMT
He is taking the water when he says we were fabulous.
But everything else is bang on.
Our problem is the summer recruitment.
Thank you very much Ben & Tommy
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 9, 2021 23:14:13 GMT
He can't tell everyone in the dressing room that they're doing well and making progress and then come out and tell us they're sh**e, can he? We're not making progress though are we? Just be honest, no need to be sending out subliminal messages when it's obvious we weren't 'Fantastic'. Be honest and explain why you've dismantled a formula that was working and had us playing well and scoring goals, to a system that got the previous manager the sack. Why are you chopping and changing? He didn't hold back with the criticism after the Accrington game did he? Because it was obvious for everybody to see. It's obvious we're better now than against Accrington (and you seem to agree), so by definition that is progress (if on a very short time scale). In any case, I used 'progress' as a good faith paraphrase for the gist of what he said, not sure he actually used that word.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 23:25:45 GMT
They only went for him last day of the window Wasn’t Stockley our main target and Sam Frost believed we were genuine contenders until Charlton came in? Can’t remember anyone on here suggesting Lee and there would probably have been uproar if we’d dropped our interest in Stockley before he’d made his decision to pursue Lee? January is a terrible time to be desperately trying to improve your squad. Problem goes a lot further back to the summer when we went into the season with an unbalanced squad. Apart from Stockley I don’t think there were many names being thrown about that will have led to fan excitement. I doubt anyone on here was mental enough to think we would be signing Stockley in the first place
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Post by pucklechurchgas on Feb 9, 2021 23:26:04 GMT
I think the recruitment team and tisdale are all partly to blame. Even with limited attacking options, an experienced lower league manager should have been able to inspire this team to more points.
That said, I back the people at the club and I back Tisdale to turn it around. It was a good and honest interview. Let’s hope he can finally inspire some confidence back into the team.
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Post by Gasshole on Feb 9, 2021 23:27:53 GMT
Announce David Copperfield as new Manager.
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