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Post by cj on Feb 10, 2021 14:41:27 GMT
Mixed views from people on here about PT's interview last night. I understand both sides of the argument. However, personally, I feel it wasn't the best way to start the interview, saying we were fabulous after we just lost yet another game and failed to score yet again! When I heard it, I knew it would cause a lot of anger. Yes when compare it to the Accrington game, of course we were much better. Couldn't really have gotten worse could we! I just think when we are on a rotten run as we are, with no sign of where the next win will come from, in fact there is no sign where the next goal will come from, and we can all see what our main issues are - which wasn't rectified in January, and we are all frustrated where we are currently clearly heading, the last thing I personally wanted to hear us that we played fabulous after losing yet another game.
Yes it could have been for the players to hear, to publicly encourage them but it wasn't what the fans needed to hear when he would/should know the fans won't be happy with the current situation at the club. So to me it just came across as deluded, out of his depth and out of touch. Just my humble opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 14:43:32 GMT
But we’ve had better performances and during that period we’ve had Ozzie, McCormick, Nicholson, Ayunga, Upson, Rodman, Ogogo, Barrett, Jaakola, Little, Daly all injured... admittedly some of those are not what you’d class as 1st team regulars or key players but it all limits options to change things and also adds pressure on the rest of the squad and increases fatigue as players are having to play more games without any rest bite.... (thinking Hanlan in particular here)... at no point have I seen anything to suggest he’s lost the players Obviously you are a fan of this incompetent blagger so we can agree to disagree. I don't see any players bursting a gut for this fella. They are professionals at the end of the day and are paid to do a job and instinct will kick in once they go over the white line and they will always perform to a level but to suggest they are behind him in my opinion is totally wrong. You do not lose the amount of games this fella has at this level if you have a happy camp and players prepared to dig in and run through a brick wall for you, Fact !! There is some truth in what you say and I’m neither a fan nor not a fan of his - I just think he is not as bad as you are making out and I don’t think he’s lost the squad. Even the best teams in the world lose lots of games - look at Liverpool, has Klopp lost the squad? I think you are ignoring the fact that Tis has had a number of influential and key players out injured during those losses and that does impact things, especially with a young inexperienced squad. That’s not to say we couldn’t have performed better, just that I don’t agree that the losses mean the squad isn’t playing for him. Personally I think we need to stop demanding managerial changes at the first sign of losses and actually get behind and back a manager. People call for Ollie to come back and take over but do you really think he’d change our current fortunes - especially based upon his recent managerial performances? Personally I don’t think he could or would despite me believing he was a great manager (was being the optimal word here)... I just struggle to see how people can’t appreciate what has happened and the challenges that have been faced and how that would influence performance/results I also struggle to see who could come in and do better (in realistic terms)....
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Post by barumgas on Feb 10, 2021 14:44:09 GMT
I am in the minority who felt it was not a bad interview. He said it as I saw it in that we played well against a in form side and if we had taken our chances we would have won. Everyone on here would have been raving about our great performance and Tis getting it right. He obviously has plans to include Rodman which after his performance last night is encouraging. Some have criticised his substitution, he must have been knackered and needs protecting, just like the other players who are being on the bench. Two games a week at the intensity they play at must take its toll. Another general criticism is of the RB Tis signed, but his performances have impressed me. On to Saturday and a chance for our strikers to put things right.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Feb 10, 2021 14:49:34 GMT
Teflon Tisdale, nothing to do with him, the bloke has been here long enough to know this group of players, he is certainly not a magician and also proving to be a awful manager, he was brought in apparently to take Rovers to the next level, ffs.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 10, 2021 14:53:55 GMT
Teflon Tisdale, nothing to do with him, the bloke has been here long enough to know this group of players, he is certainly not a magician and also proving to be a awful manager, he was brought in apparently to take Rovers to the next level, ffs. Also he knew what players had to work with and presumably discussed scope for transfers with Wael/Starnes. If he cant get the best out of the previous managers players, maybe he should have waited until the summer and took a job then where he can have a clear-out. His team selection and tactics seem to be based on trial and error and its been mainly error so far.
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Post by bobbyjones on Feb 10, 2021 14:58:36 GMT
He says we were fabulous and we lost, when if we win will we be supercalifragilist.
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Post by lpgas1 on Feb 10, 2021 16:03:14 GMT
Tisdale appointed by Starnes 30 minutes after Garner had left. I think they both should go. I think Wael puts too much trust in Starnes and Widdrington, and I have just told him that in the letter I have just put in the red box outside my house.
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Post by bluebiro on Feb 10, 2021 16:04:52 GMT
He certainly did a magic trick there
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Post by Big Jock on Feb 10, 2021 17:21:50 GMT
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 11, 2021 16:43:40 GMT
It has been a common theme now with DC, GC and now Tisdale to mention being a magician or can't keep pulling rabbits out of hats. Not long after each occasion they have all got the boot. Why do you think they all say the same thing? Are they all wrong?! Garner did terrible for a long time but lasted longer than probably deserved because he didn't speak out against the board.
What do we think? This isn't a board bashing by the way. Its just me putting a common theme together and trying to dissect it...
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Post by yattongas on Feb 11, 2021 17:01:43 GMT
“I’m not a magician”......... and in a puff of smoke he was gone 💨 🪄
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 17:05:52 GMT
It has been a common theme now with DC, GC and now Tisdale to mention being a magician or can't keep pulling rabbits out of hats. Not long after each occasion they have all got the boot. Why do you think they all say the same thing? Are they all wrong?! Garner did terrible for a long time but lasted longer than probably deserved because he didn't speak out against the board. What do we think? This isn't a board bashing by the way. Its just me putting a common theme together and trying to dissect it... DC was operating under a different ownership model and a completely different scenario, I think he would come back if offered the job so it can’t have been that bad or the problem he was talking about is now gone. GC said he couldn’t take us any further. At the point he said it he was 4th in the league and had been tapped up by Mansfield. He wasn’t lying, he was right. We were punching above our weight and he knew this. Our natural position is imo mid table. Tisdale is a conman who’s failed at this level everytime he’s been at jt and has history of blaming others and making excuses. Read the 60 page thread on the Exeter forum, it is quite damning.
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Post by gruad on Feb 11, 2021 18:37:41 GMT
You can't put your self pity on display if you are a leader, full stop.
Personally I get tempted to do that when under pressure and external events seem to conspire against me. PT had that in spades, but despite what all these pop psychologists say, you should never admit that you are floundering except in your memoirs.
He should have just said he was disappointed with the result, but the team had improved (admittedly from a terrible low), and we would do better next time. Job done and fans and the owner not wound up even more.
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Post by madgas on Feb 11, 2021 18:50:36 GMT
His "psychology" was dreadful.
It was as if he forgot what he had previously said on all occasions.
Start: There my players "Now" End: Implication that there not his players and we need players for "Now"
Start: I dont mind a messy game. End:4-5-1, taking off strikers at 2 nil down.
Start: We attack together and defend together End: The strikers need to score a goal.
Start: "The tone is the most important part of football" End: "Scoring is the most important part"
At the time, in isolation, it all made sense. But one compared to the other- utter nonsense.
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Post by wilmslowgas on Feb 11, 2021 18:58:29 GMT
I'm bitterly disappointed with Tisdale. After the disaster that was Garner I didn't think we could get any lower. How wrong was I?
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Post by aghast on Feb 11, 2021 19:49:42 GMT
I'm bitterly disappointed with Tisdale. After the disaster that was Garner I didn't think we could get any lower. How wrong was I? I don't think we gave him long enough, actually. Can't be properly judged after so few games with someone else's team. He deserved until the end of the month imo. Garner proved himself to be useless over a fairly long albeit restricted spell across two seasons, so his sacking was justified. Too early to judge PT I thought.
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