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Post by LJG on Feb 10, 2021 11:50:07 GMT
I know we all think we can manage a pro football team,me included,so I always follow closely team selection,substitutions,tactics etc.I have always thought that Mr.Grimsdale was extremely fortunate to have been a pro manager for so long.He seems to be in the wrong game completely,and would be much more suited to cricket.He could start off running a village cricket team and take it from there. Whilst at Exeter he was prone to wearing a cravat as part of his touch line attire.When asked about it by the Press,he replied that when the players looked over to him on the touch line,it gave them confidence,and already they were 1:0 up.You can research this if you don’t believe me,it’s true.!This could be our only hope for the rest of the season. Yet another thing that made me certain this guy should have been swerved like a crate of watermelons in a TV car chase - going on about how the players would look at how expensive his jacket was and think "We're one nil up already" - what the hell were we thinking going anywhere near this guy??? If you heard someone in every day life say something like that you'd probably feel very sorry for them or a bit wary of them. What you wouldn't do is think "This is the guy I want to take charge of and be the public face of my business". Seriously!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 10, 2021 11:52:35 GMT
Not a magician... but not a manager either sadly for us
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 10, 2021 12:42:22 GMT
I read the comments on here before hearing the interview with my own ears and was in agreement with those saying it's smacked of arrogance etc. However, having since heard the interview, I actually feel it's a pretty good/fair one. He's clearly trying to build up the confidence of what is a very young squad. We all knew Oxford would probably win and IMO are one of the best sides in this division; so it was always going to be tough. Therefore it's no real surprise they scored - the issue was that we couldn't score ourselves. As he points out - it's down to the players to stick the ball in the back of the net; there's only so much he can do. He's been hung out to dry in that regard as the recruitment striker wise over the summer was appalling and we failed (for whatever reason) to rectify the issue before the window closed. We're now stuck with 3 strikers - one of which is very young and it's unfair to expect too much of, one of which is non-league standard (at least currently) and one of which offers quite a bit generally and will score goals but not the 20+ per season (if not 25+) ultimately required. I can't believe for one minute Tisdale wouldn't have wanted us to sign a striker, so we have to assume it was failure by the club more generally and perhaps Tommy "I work 3 windows ahead" Widdrington. Is PT the answer? I don't know. But he is on a hiding to nothing regardless IMO - Guardiola, Hiddink, Mourinho; they'd all struggle to do anything with this squad. He found a formula where we were scoring goals though. Away at Wimbledon we scored 4 and looked very good, we scored 3 at home to Plymouth and again looked good going forward, we showed desire against Blackpool to come from behind and win, 2-1 and again looked good going forward, we gave a full strength Sheffield United a good game and scored 2 goals and once again looked good going forward. We were even scoring from Corners and Set Pieces which never happens. So it begs the question, why has Tisdale dismantled that, and gone back to what got Garner the sack? It's baffling, it really is.
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Post by RD on Feb 10, 2021 12:46:13 GMT
I read the comments on here before hearing the interview with my own ears and was in agreement with those saying it's smacked of arrogance etc. However, having since heard the interview, I actually feel it's a pretty good/fair one. He's clearly trying to build up the confidence of what is a very young squad. We all knew Oxford would probably win and IMO are one of the best sides in this division; so it was always going to be tough. Therefore it's no real surprise they scored - the issue was that we couldn't score ourselves. As he points out - it's down to the players to stick the ball in the back of the net; there's only so much he can do. He's been hung out to dry in that regard as the recruitment striker wise over the summer was appalling and we failed (for whatever reason) to rectify the issue before the window closed. We're now stuck with 3 strikers - one of which is very young and it's unfair to expect too much of, one of which is non-league standard (at least currently) and one of which offers quite a bit generally and will score goals but not the 20+ per season (if not 25+) ultimately required. I can't believe for one minute Tisdale wouldn't have wanted us to sign a striker, so we have to assume it was failure by the club more generally and perhaps Tommy "I work 3 windows ahead" Widdrington. Is PT the answer? I don't know. But he is on a hiding to nothing regardless IMO - Guardiola, Hiddink, Mourinho; they'd all struggle to do anything with this squad. He found a formula where we were scoring goals though. Away at Wimbledon we scored 4 and looked very good, we scored 3 at home to Plymouth and again looked good going forward, we showed desire against Blackpool to come from behind and win, 2-1 and again looked good going forward, we gave a full strength Sheffield United a good game and scored 2 goals and once again looked good going forward. We were even scoring from Corners and Set Pieces which never happens. So it begs the question, why has Tisdale dismantled that, and gone back to what got Garner the sack? It's baffling, it really is. But we had chances last night - the issue is we didn't take them. I do take your points, but I'm not sure they are necessarily relevant to last nights game - our finishing let us down last night, and he has no control over that. If we had failed to create any chances I would totally take your point.
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 10, 2021 12:50:27 GMT
He found a formula where we were scoring goals though. Away at Wimbledon we scored 4 and looked very good, we scored 3 at home to Plymouth and again looked good going forward, we showed desire against Blackpool to come from behind and win, 2-1 and again looked good going forward, we gave a full strength Sheffield United a good game and scored 2 goals and once again looked good going forward. We were even scoring from Corners and Set Pieces which never happens. So it begs the question, why has Tisdale dismantled that, and gone back to what got Garner the sack? It's baffling, it really is. But we had chances last night - the issue is we didn't take them. I do take your points, but I'm not sure they are necessarily relevant to last nights game - our finishing let us down last night, and he has no control over that. If we had failed to create any chances I would totally take your point. 2 out of the 3 guys that score our goals were on the bench. When spurs have Kane and Son not playing it makes a big difference to their ability to score goals. Resting Hanlan and Nico at the same time was a strange decision. 2 out of the 3 of Daly, Hanlan and Nico should be on the pitch when fit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 12:59:05 GMT
After a performance like Fleetwood, Peterborough and last night how does that show he’s lost the dressing room!? Also do you not think the injuries we’ve had to key players may have influenced that run of defeats ?? Look at all the performances over the last 4 weeks or so and you will answer your own question. If you think a mediocre performance and a 2-0 loss to Oxford has the players playing for him you are deluded. He is taking us down absolutely no doubt in my mind. Key players who Upson and Ogogo if we are reliant on either of those two then god helps us lol But we’ve had better performances and during that period we’ve had Ozzie, McCormick, Nicholson, Ayunga, Upson, Rodman, Ogogo, Barrett, Jaakola, Little, Daly all injured... admittedly some of those are not what you’d class as 1st team regulars or key players but it all limits options to change things and also adds pressure on the rest of the squad and increases fatigue as players are having to play more games without any rest bite.... (thinking Hanlan in particular here)... at no point have I seen anything to suggest he’s lost the players
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 10, 2021 12:59:14 GMT
He found a formula where we were scoring goals though. Away at Wimbledon we scored 4 and looked very good, we scored 3 at home to Plymouth and again looked good going forward, we showed desire against Blackpool to come from behind and win, 2-1 and again looked good going forward, we gave a full strength Sheffield United a good game and scored 2 goals and once again looked good going forward. We were even scoring from Corners and Set Pieces which never happens. So it begs the question, why has Tisdale dismantled that, and gone back to what got Garner the sack? It's baffling, it really is. But we had chances last night - the issue is we didn't take them. I do take your points, but I'm not sure they are necessarily relevant to last nights game - our finishing let us down last night, and he has no control over that. If we had failed to create any chances I would totally take your point. He's chopping and changing though and gone back to Garners game plan which has seen us start losing games again. Nicholson and Hanlan were on the bench. They're are 2 top goalscorers, Hanlans got 8 goals in 22 and Nicholson 7 goals in 24. Yeah, it's hindsight but if those 2 had started, we may have taken them. I'm still not having his excuse, we were warned about his strange formations and tinkering by Exeter and MK Dons fans, and now we're seeing it. He had a system that was working. Go back to it.
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Post by GasAttacK on Feb 10, 2021 13:03:57 GMT
I read the comments on here before hearing the interview with my own ears and was in agreement with those saying it's smacked of arrogance etc. However, having since heard the interview, I actually feel it's a pretty good/fair one. He's clearly trying to build up the confidence of what is a very young squad. We all knew Oxford would probably win and IMO are one of the best sides in this division; so it was always going to be tough. Therefore it's no real surprise they scored - the issue was that we couldn't score ourselves. As he points out - it's down to the players to stick the ball in the back of the net; there's only so much he can do. He's been hung out to dry in that regard as the recruitment striker wise over the summer was appalling and we failed (for whatever reason) to rectify the issue before the window closed. We're now stuck with 3 strikers - one of which is very young and it's unfair to expect too much of, one of which is non-league standard (at least currently) and one of which offers quite a bit generally and will score goals but not the 20+ per season (if not 25+) ultimately required. I can't believe for one minute Tisdale wouldn't have wanted us to sign a striker, so we have to assume it was failure by the club more generally and perhaps Tommy "I work 3 windows ahead" Widdrington. Is PT the answer? I don't know. But he is on a hiding to nothing regardless IMO - Guardiola, Hiddink, Mourinho; they'd all struggle to do anything with this squad. He found a formula where we were scoring goals though. Away at Wimbledon we scored 4 and looked very good, we scored 3 at home to Plymouth and again looked good going forward, we showed desire against Blackpool to come from behind and win, 2-1 and again looked good going forward, we gave a full strength Sheffield United a good game and scored 2 goals and once again looked good going forward. We were even scoring from Corners and Set Pieces which never happens. So it begs the question, why has Tisdale dismantled that, and gone back to what got Garner the sack? It's baffling, it really is. Was the actual performance against Plymouth any better than last night against Oxford?
We had roughly the same amount of attacking play and goal attempts against Oxford as we did against Plymouth. The only real difference was the finishing. If our play is decent and we're creating chances there is little Tisdale or any manager can do to turn those opportunities into goals. That is down to the players.
Oxford scored 2 of 12 attempts on goal, Plymouth had 24 attempts but failed to score.
We competed well against a good Oxford side. We actually had less control of the game after bringing on Westbrooke for Kilgour and reverting to 4 at the back.
I'm just hoping we can take the improved performances against Fleetwood and Oxford into the game on Saturday and finally score a few goals.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 13:04:05 GMT
But we had chances last night - the issue is we didn't take them. I do take your points, but I'm not sure they are necessarily relevant to last nights game - our finishing let us down last night, and he has no control over that. If we had failed to create any chances I would totally take your point. 2 out of the 3 guys that score our goals were on the bench. When spurs have Kane and Son not playing it makes a big difference to their ability to score goals. Resting Hanlan and Nico at the same time was a strange decision. 2 out of the 3 of Daly, Hanlan and Nico should be on the pitch when fit. I don’t know for sure as it’s my guesswork but I think Hanlan is struggling with fatigue and needed a rest (understandable after the amount of games he’s played) and Nicholson took a real number of heavy challenges Saturday so I think he was struggling and sore and ideally Tis wouldn’t have brought him on.... Agree though that if both were fully fit then I’d have started them alongside Daly (although I do think Rodman played well)
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Post by carlts2020 on Feb 10, 2021 13:06:31 GMT
2 out of the 3 guys that score our goals were on the bench. When spurs have Kane and Son not playing it makes a big difference to their ability to score goals. Resting Hanlan and Nico at the same time was a strange decision. 2 out of the 3 of Daly, Hanlan and Nico should be on the pitch when fit. I don’t know for sure as it’s my guesswork but I think Hanlan is struggling with fatigue and needed a rest (understandable after the amount of games he’s played) and Nicholson took a real number of heavy challenges Saturday so I think he was struggling and sore and ideally Tis wouldn’t have brought him on.... Agree though that if both were fully fit then I’d have started them alongside Daly (although I do think Rodman played well) I agree Rodman did play well.
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Post by Gastafari on Feb 10, 2021 13:11:48 GMT
He found a formula where we were scoring goals though. Away at Wimbledon we scored 4 and looked very good, we scored 3 at home to Plymouth and again looked good going forward, we showed desire against Blackpool to come from behind and win, 2-1 and again looked good going forward, we gave a full strength Sheffield United a good game and scored 2 goals and once again looked good going forward. We were even scoring from Corners and Set Pieces which never happens. So it begs the question, why has Tisdale dismantled that, and gone back to what got Garner the sack? It's baffling, it really is. Was the actual performance against Plymouth any better than last night against Oxford?
We had roughly the same amount of attacking play and goal attempts against Oxford as we did against Plymouth. The only real difference was the finishing. If our play is decent and we're creating chances there is little Tisdale or any manager can do to turn those opportunities into goals. That is down to the players.
Oxford scored 2 of 12 attempts on goal, Plymouth had 24 attempts but failed to score.
We competed well against a good Oxford side. We actually had less control of the game after bringing on Westbrooke for Kilgour and reverting to 4 at the back.
I'm just hoping we can take the improved performances against Fleetwood and Oxford into the game on Saturday and finally score a few goals.
He left our 2 top goalscorers on the bench last night, they've scored 15 between them. Nicholson is our best player and Hanlan is our main goal threat and top goalscorer whether you rate him or not. Most teams whether it's League One or Premier League will struggle to score if your main players or top scorers are not on the pitch. Take Harry Kane out of Spurs, take Salah and Mane out of Liverpool, 2 top Premier League sides they struggle to score, let alone us. The excuse doesn't wash.
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Post by twertonboy on Feb 10, 2021 13:17:05 GMT
He’s a blagger that’s conned a wage out of us and doesn’t know how to fix it... I can’t watch another match until he’s gone.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Feb 10, 2021 13:17:19 GMT
But we had chances last night - the issue is we didn't take them. I do take your points, but I'm not sure they are necessarily relevant to last nights game - our finishing let us down last night, and he has no control over that. If we had failed to create any chances I would totally take your point. He's chopping and changing though and gone back to Garners game plan which has seen us start losing games again. Nicholson and Hanlan were on the bench. They're are 2 top goalscorers, Hanlans got 8 goals in 22 and Nicholson 7 goals in 24. Yeah, it's hindsight but if those 2 had started, we may have taken them. I'm still not having his excuse, we were warned about his strange formations and tinkering by Exeter and MK Dons fans, and now we're seeing it. He had a system that was working. Go back to it. Tisdale sets out in the mindset of trying not to lose, rather than going out to win games....whatever he says in interviews to the contrary. I am half thinking he had Nico and Hanlan on the bench in case we had to chase the game in the 2nd half, rather than the bolder option of playing the best 11 and going for 3 points. The trouble is our defence regularly concedes early in games, and im not sure why he is expecting that to change with the same players. Its getting to the stage where we HAVE to win some games so he will have to change this sooner or later.
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Post by axegas on Feb 10, 2021 13:18:56 GMT
I read the comments on here before hearing the interview with my own ears and was in agreement with those saying it's smacked of arrogance etc. However, having since heard the interview, I actually feel it's a pretty good/fair one. He's clearly trying to build up the confidence of what is a very young squad. We all knew Oxford would probably win and IMO are one of the best sides in this division; so it was always going to be tough. Therefore it's no real surprise they scored - the issue was that we couldn't score ourselves. As he points out - it's down to the players to stick the ball in the back of the net; there's only so much he can do. He's been hung out to dry in that regard as the recruitment striker wise over the summer was appalling and we failed (for whatever reason) to rectify the issue before the window closed. We're now stuck with 3 strikers - one of which is very young and it's unfair to expect too much of, one of which is non-league standard (at least currently) and one of which offers quite a bit generally and will score goals but not the 20+ per season (if not 25+) ultimately required. I can't believe for one minute Tisdale wouldn't have wanted us to sign a striker, so we have to assume it was failure by the club more generally and perhaps Tommy "I work 3 windows ahead" Widdrington. Is PT the answer? I don't know. But he is on a hiding to nothing regardless IMO - Guardiola, Hiddink, Mourinho; they'd all struggle to do anything with this squad. He found a formula where we were scoring goals though. Away at Wimbledon we scored 4 and looked very good, we scored 3 at home to Plymouth and again looked good going forward, we showed desire against Blackpool to come from behind and win, 2-1 and again looked good going forward, we gave a full strength Sheffield United a good game and scored 2 goals and once again looked good going forward. We were even scoring from Corners and Set Pieces which never happens. So it begs the question, why has Tisdale dismantled that, and gone back to what got Garner the sack? It's baffling, it really is. I actually think that streak of 3 or 4 games was a bit of an exception. Against Plymouth, they had lost their 4 previous games and were evidently low on confidence, even then I thought the 3-0 win flattered us and that our defence was shaky. The performance away at AFC Wimbledon was probably our best so far this season, especially from an attacking standpoint but we still conceded 2 goals. If I’m right, amongst that we produced 2 dreadful displays against 2 very ordinary teams in Gillingham and MK Dons, again failing to score in either one of them. I think if we get the rub of the green we will score goals against some of the fellow strugglers, I don’t think we’ve got the very worst attack in the league although it is up there. The problem is, picking up a win here or there against an AFC Wimbledon or a Northampton Town isn’t enough, we need to be scoring points on the board against the mid table teams, the likes of MK Dons, Fleetwood, Gillingham, Shrewsbury etc and so far I’ve seen no evidence to suggest that we can do that on a consistent basis.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 13:19:18 GMT
He’s a blagger that’s conned a wage out of us and doesn’t know how to fix it... I can’t watch another match until he’s gone. With a capital B
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Post by Gas-Ed on Feb 10, 2021 14:00:17 GMT
I know we all think we can manage a pro football team,me included,so I always follow closely team selection,substitutions,tactics etc.I have always thought that Mr.Grimsdale was extremely fortunate to have been a pro manager for so long.He seems to be in the wrong game completely,and would be much more suited to cricket.He could start off running a village cricket team and take it from there. Whilst at Exeter he was prone to wearing a cravat as part of his touch line attire.When asked about it by the Press,he replied that when the players looked over to him on the touch line,it gave them confidence,and already they were 1:0 up.You can research this if you don’t believe me,it’s true.!This could be our only hope for the rest of the season. Yet another thing that made me certain this guy should have been swerved like a crate of watermelons in a TV car chase - going on about how the players would look at how expensive his jacket was and think "We're one nil up already" - what the hell were we thinking going anywhere near this guy??? If you heard someone in every day life say something like that you'd probably feel very sorry for them or a bit wary of them. What you wouldn't do is think "This is the guy I want to take charge of and be the public face of my business". Seriously! Sounds like David Brent.
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Post by Big Jock on Feb 10, 2021 14:06:40 GMT
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Post by bigal40 on Feb 10, 2021 14:10:38 GMT
Look at all the performances over the last 4 weeks or so and you will answer your own question. If you think a mediocre performance and a 2-0 loss to Oxford has the players playing for him you are deluded. He is taking us down absolutely no doubt in my mind. Key players who Upson and Ogogo if we are reliant on either of those two then god helps us lol But we’ve had better performances and during that period we’ve had Ozzie, McCormick, Nicholson, Ayunga, Upson, Rodman, Ogogo, Barrett, Jaakola, Little, Daly all injured... admittedly some of those are not what you’d class as 1st team regulars or key players but it all limits options to change things and also adds pressure on the rest of the squad and increases fatigue as players are having to play more games without any rest bite.... (thinking Hanlan in particular here)... at no point have I seen anything to suggest he’s lost the players Obviously you are a fan of this incompetent blagger so we can agree to disagree. I don't see any players bursting a gut for this fella. They are professionals at the end of the day and are paid to do a job and instinct will kick in once they go over the white line and they will always perform to a level but to suggest they are behind him in my opinion is totally wrong. You do not lose the amount of games this fella has at this level if you have a happy camp and players prepared to dig in and run through a brick wall for you, Fact !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 14:19:42 GMT
Wael is brilliant at it, he's managed to make himself and the rest of the board disappear.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 14:33:56 GMT
Wasn’t Stockley our main target and Sam Frost believed we were genuine contenders until Charlton came in? Can’t remember anyone on here suggesting Lee and there would probably have been uproar if we’d dropped our interest in Stockley before he’d made his decision to pursue Lee? January is a terrible time to be desperately trying to improve your squad. Problem goes a lot further back to the summer when we went into the season with an unbalanced squad. Apart from Stockley I don’t think there were many names being thrown about that will have led to fan excitement. I doubt anyone on here was mental enough to think we would be signing Stockley in the first place I thought there was no chance of Stockley and laughed it off when first mentioned but Sam Frost suggested we were very genuine contenders until Charlton came in. What would the reaction have been had we stopped any talks with Preston/Stockley to pursue someone like Lee? Several new threads and more meltdown no doubt.
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