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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 14, 2021 14:14:45 GMT
48 points I'd agree wouldnt normally be enough and if that's what we end up with I think it will be a very nervous last couple of games. But to get to 48 the bottom 3 all need another 17 points so effectively 6 wins from their remaining games. That's a tall order considering Swindon & Rochdale have 11 games left each. I'm not suggesting 48 will definitely be enough but the bottom 6 all have to win 5 or 6 games to get to that mark. Ultimately I'd rather we sorted this mess out ourselves rather than hoping 4 teams are a slightly worse than us, 3 points on Tues would be a good start That's not strictly the case as only 3 other clubs in the bottom 6 need to get to 48 pts meaning that we will then need to get 49 pts to be absolutely safe. This week could be a defining one as if we get 4 pts or more we could open up a bit of a gap, 2 pts or less and we could be dropping back down to 20th or lower. I sense we need to target 4pts from each block of 2 weekly games to be safe, Charlton/Plymouth, Swindon/Sunderland, etc, if we do, we still then have some leaveway to get to 50+ pts if we miss the target. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 14, 2021 14:23:20 GMT
Blimey how can he continue in the job after that interview! Just our luck they'll have a new manager for next Saturday when we'd have probably beat them on the original date. |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Mar 14, 2021 14:25:28 GMT
Blimey how can he continue in the job after that interview! Just our luck they'll have a new manager for next Saturday when we'd have probably beat them on the original date. It sounds like hes had enough and just wants to be sacked. 😂 In all seriousness I feel for the bloke a bit, had a torrid time of it. |
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Post by theoriginals1878 on Mar 14, 2021 14:27:33 GMT
A draw yesterday isnt the end of the world as you just need to be taking something from every game . Yourselves and Burton are the only teams in the bottom seven with a point or more per game so hopefully 45 points should just about enough.
It sounded like you were the better team early on but got tired later which is a bit of worry with 2 games this week when most of your rivals have a free week,2 points this week and you are still on target to survive .
It must be nerve racking for you lads/girls as though I have never seen a relegation we have come close twice down to the last day.I was that distant at home my misses accused me of having an affair but I was just constantly looking at league tables and fixture lists and couldnt sleep.
Best of luck Tuesday I will be rooting for you.
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Mar 14, 2021 14:29:21 GMT
48 points I'd agree wouldnt normally be enough and if that's what we end up with I think it will be a very nervous last couple of games. But to get to 48 the bottom 3 all need another 17 points so effectively 6 wins from their remaining games. That's a tall order considering Swindon & Rochdale have 11 games left each. I'm not suggesting 48 will definitely be enough but the bottom 6 all have to win 5 or 6 games to get to that mark. Ultimately I'd rather we sorted this mess out ourselves rather than hoping 4 teams are a slightly worse than us, 3 points on Tues would be a good start That's not strictly the case as only 3 other clubs in the bottom 6 need to get to 48 pts meaning that we will then need to get 49 pts to be absolutely safe. This week could be a defining one as if we get 4 pts or more we could open up a bit of a gap, 2 pts or less and we could be dropping back down to 20th or lower. I sense we need to target 4pts from each block of 2 weekly games to be safe, Charlton/Plymouth, Swindon/Sunderland, etc, if we do, we still then have some leaveway to get to 50+ pts if we miss the target. Wouldnt disagree with that, those 3 sides will have to put together a pretty good run to get to 48 though so if we can get there with games to spare it might well come down to one from the other 3. As you say 50+ has to be the target |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 14, 2021 15:50:54 GMT
A draw yesterday isnt the end of the world as you just need to be taking something from every game . Yourselves and Burton are the only teams in the bottom seven with a point or more per game so hopefully 45 points should just about enough. It sounded like you were the better team early on but got tired later which is a bit of worry with 2 games this week when most of your rivals have a free week,2 points this week and you are still on target to survive . It must be nerve racking for you lads/girls as though I have never seen a relegation we have come close twice down to the last day.I was that distant at home my misses accused me of having an affair but I was just constantly looking at league tables and fixture lists and couldnt sleep. Best of luck Tuesday I will be rooting for you. We lost Rodman, one of our wing backs/most impressive players under Barton, then seemed to lose our way when we change formation to 4-4-2. With hindsight perhaps sticking to wing backs may have led to a win, but then we might have had to rely upon Ehmer rather than Williams to make a goal line clearance! |
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Post by socrates on Mar 14, 2021 16:31:18 GMT
A draw yesterday isnt the end of the world as you just need to be taking something from every game . Yourselves and Burton are the only teams in the bottom seven with a point or more per game so hopefully 45 points should just about enough. It sounded like you were the better team early on but got tired later which is a bit of worry with 2 games this week when most of your rivals have a free week,2 points this week and you are still on target to survive . It must be nerve racking for you lads/girls as though I have never seen a relegation we have come close twice down to the last day.I was that distant at home my misses accused me of having an affair but I was just constantly looking at league tables and fixture lists and couldnt sleep. Best of luck Tuesday I will be rooting for you. We lost Rodman, one of our wing backs/most impressive players under Barton, then seemed to lose our way when we change formation to 4-4-2. With hindsight perhaps sticking to wing backs may have led to a win, but then we might have had to rely upon Ehmer rather than Williams to make a goal line clearance! The thought of Ehmer moving quick and sharp with agility doesn’t really sound plausible to be honest. He’s a big lad who can head away the direct ball but he’s got little else from what I’ve seen and even in those situations he’s had a problem at times this season. Our goals conceded per game has gone down massively since he’s been droppped. 10 goals conceded in our last 8 games. Before that we were conceded two goals a game. |
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Post by worrelsterlingalbion on Mar 14, 2021 16:39:40 GMT
We lost Rodman, one of our wing backs/most impressive players under Barton, then seemed to lose our way when we change formation to 4-4-2. With hindsight perhaps sticking to wing backs may have led to a win, but then we might have had to rely upon Ehmer rather than Williams to make a goal line clearance! The thought of Ehmer moving quick and sharp with agility doesn’t really sound plausible to be honest. He’s a big lad who can head away the direct ball but he’s got little else from what I’ve seen and even in those situations he’s had a problem at times this season. Our goals conceded per game has gone down massively since he’s been droppped. 10 goals conceded in our last 8 games. Before that we were conceded two goals a game. Ehmers a real strange one, he came with a good reputation but hasn't got anywhere near those standards for us. I'd agree we've looked more solid since he's been out personally I think a lot of that is down to Williams who has proved too be a very decent signing. The worry for me is how we replace Rodman if he's not fit for Tues, Hare is an option as a direct replacement, revert to a 4 and a change of shape or shift Williams to wing back and either Ehmer Harries or as a wildcard Martinez comes into the back 3. Personally I'd like to keep the same back 3 so I'd go for Hare as a like for like replacement and limit changes elsewhere |
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Post by Wembley_Gas on Mar 14, 2021 17:37:14 GMT
Seen us play them away at The Valley, Selhurst Park and Upton Park and never win at any of them, since they’ve played us at Eastville, Twerton and The Mem this must be up there as one of the head to head confrontations involving the most home grounds? Brighton might’ve topped it but I don’t think we played them when they were exiled at Gillingham so I think they equal it. We played Charlton away at 'the mount' in Catford during their one and only season there in 23/24 (1st march 24) coming out 3-1 winners, so thats 7 different home venues. Eastville, Twerton, Mem - Valley, Mount, Upton, Selhurst. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mount_(stadium)Rotherham is a 6: Eastville,Twerton, Mem - Millmoor, Don Valley, New York. Brighton is a potential 6 if we play at Falmer. This made me look into fixtures between Charlton and Brighton. Valley, Mount, Upton, Selhurst - Goldstone, withdean, Falmer, which is also 7 So if we ever build a new ground we should have that record sorted as far as I can tell, unless anyone can think of a higher figure. Another 6, although through different circumstances is Millwall. As well as us being their first and last league opponents at the Den, Cold Blow Lane we’ve also played them at Twerton, Eastville, The Mem, The New Den and, when they were forced to play home games away from the Den as punishment for fan misbehaviour, Fratton Park. I checked who our League opponents were when we were forced (or chose) to play home games at Ashton Gate: Grimsby, Oldham, Newcastle and Swindon and in the cups...York and Portsmouth none of whom have moved much themselves. We also played 4 home games at Ashton Gate in 1939 but these were after the three Div 3 South games were played, so that the competition we played both Newport and Swansea (potential sixers) at Ashton Gate in was known as the Regional League South West. The one that is the most confusing is the Wimbledon/MK Dons/AFC Wimbledon situation since both current clubs lay claim to the pre MK history of the original Wimbledon FC. MK Dons have played at their current stadium and the National Hockey Stadium. AFC Wimbledon have played at Kingsmeadow and the New Plough Lane. The originals played at Plough Lane and Selhurst Park. ISo both teams are effectively 4 venue clubs and any recent 2 venue clubs will have potentially played them at six different grounds. If Charlton played Wimbledon at Selhurst Park as both the home and the away club it still only counts as one venue! |
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Post by legas on Mar 14, 2021 17:55:16 GMT
Blimey how can he continue in the job after that interview! Just our luck they'll have a new manager for next Saturday when we'd have probably beat them on the original date. Strange interview - “it is my fault, but it’s not my fault ... but it is all my fault actually ... but it’s not my fault really. So I’ll resign, definitely ... well, perhaps, maybe’. Just hang on in there John until after we play you! |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 14, 2021 19:20:56 GMT
Blimey how can he continue in the job after that interview! Just our luck they'll have a new manager for next Saturday when we'd have probably beat them on the original date. Strange interview - “it is my fault, but it’s not my fault ... but it is all my fault actually ... but it’s not my fault really. So I’ll resign, definitely ... well, perhaps, maybe’. Just hang on in there John until after we play you! I assume this is genuine info: |
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Post by legas on Mar 14, 2021 20:04:43 GMT
Strange interview - “it is my fault, but it’s not my fault ... but it is all my fault actually ... but it’s not my fault really. So I’ll resign, definitely ... well, perhaps, maybe’. Just hang on in there John until after we play you! I assume this is genuine info: Well, hopefully he finds nothing in their f@&ing box either! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2021 20:57:32 GMT
If Charlton fail to win at home today (currently 1-1) they will have only won once in last 10 home games Pompey fans will love that stat if Bowyer is really being lined up to replace Jackett! Daniel Stendel now odds-on of favourite for Portsmouth job as money for ex-Hearts and Barnsley boss pours in. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 14, 2021 21:14:58 GMT
Pompey fans will love that stat if Bowyer is really being lined up to replace Jackett! Daniel Stendel now odds-on of favourite for Portsmouth job as money for ex-Hearts and Barnsley boss pours in. Would make our game on April 24th interesting. |
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Post by aghast on Mar 14, 2021 21:58:28 GMT
Blimey how can he continue in the job after that interview! Just our luck they'll have a new manager for next Saturday when we'd have probably beat them on the original date. Strange interview - “it is my fault, but it’s not my fault ... but it is all my fault actually ... but it’s not my fault really. So I’ll resign, definitely ... well, perhaps, maybe’. Just hang on in there John until after we play you! Yes I thought that. What he was actually saying was "I'm going to tell you it's all my fault, but actually I blame the players, because I'm going to pretend that when I played I never ever blamed the manager, and then I can wait for the 'John, don't leave, it's not your fault' comments to come flooding in". |
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Post by singupgas on Mar 14, 2021 22:39:49 GMT
After yesterday's results I am more nervous about our chances, we are running out of game and jaut can't seem to beat the teams around us. 2 games we must win are Swindon and Northampton, but we need to find results from the other 10 games too.
JB has his work cut out to get this team playing full of confidence each game, I watched yesterday and it was like we were afraid to lose, rather than going for a the win.
Hope Tuesday we can step up again.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 15, 2021 7:22:40 GMT
After yesterday's results I am more nervous about our chances, we are running out of game and jaut can't seem to beat the teams around us. 2 games we must win are Swindon and Northampton, but we need to find results from the other 10 games too. JB has his work cut out to get this team playing full of confidence each game, I watched yesterday and it was like we were afraid to lose, rather than going for a the win. Hope Tuesday we can step up again. We just need to get to 48/50 pts, it doesn't matter how we do it as long as we achieve it. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 15, 2021 9:00:23 GMT
I assume this is genuine info: Well, hopefully he finds nothing in their f@&ing box either! It will take him 7 weeks to do that, but he’ll love it, but then do absolutely nothing about it. |
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Post by justin blue on Mar 15, 2021 9:25:14 GMT
After yesterday's results I am more nervous about our chances, we are running out of game and jaut can't seem to beat the teams around us. 2 games we must win are Swindon and Northampton, but we need to find results from the other 10 games too. JB has his work cut out to get this team playing full of confidence each game, I watched yesterday and it was like we were afraid to lose, rather than going for a the win. Hope Tuesday we can step up again. Saturday was still not a bad result as Wimbledon did not gain ground on us. If we had lost they would now be level on points with a game in hand. We're still in a dangerous position as I can't see us getting anything at Charlton. After the euphoria of last Tuesday this is the reality. |
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Mar 15, 2021 9:39:07 GMT
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