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Post by Icegas on Mar 21, 2021 21:03:35 GMT
Same sh** different protest...
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Mar 21, 2021 21:11:10 GMT
I mean, whilst I don’t agree what’s happened at Bridewell in the aftermath, the initial protest is for good reason, the new protest bill pushes us towards authoritarianism, it wouldn’t look out of place in China or North Korea.
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Post by Charlton Hayes Gas on Mar 21, 2021 21:29:54 GMT
Setting police vans on fire, breaking police windows and setting off fireworks to scare the dogs, all in the name of the right to peacefully protest.....
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Post by Icegas on Mar 21, 2021 21:56:01 GMT
Setting police vans on fire, breaking police windows and setting off fireworks to scare the dogs, all in the name of the right to peacefully protest..... My spanish girlfriend has just walked home from work through town/all this sh** and just rang me in tears due to the violance she saw.Thugs that act as if they are right, breaking the law. No excuse..its always done by the same bullying virtue signaling pussys that only do this sh** in packs, and because the PC culture over here let's them and won't punish them for there actions.. Bristol is a disgrace at times by letting this crap happen!
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Post by henry on Mar 21, 2021 22:33:30 GMT
No excuses, track the lawless anarchists down and prosecute just like they do football supporters, who do nothing like this I may add but would get a much stronger sentence just for swearing and posturing.
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Post by henry on Mar 21, 2021 22:34:16 GMT
Setting police vans on fire, breaking police windows and setting off fireworks to scare the dogs, all in the name of the right to peacefully protest..... My spanish girlfriend has just walked home from work through town/all this sh** and just rang me in tears due to the violance she saw.Thugs that act as if they are right, breaking the law. No excuse..its always done by the same bullying virtue signaling pussys that only do this sh** in packs, and because the PC culture over here let's them and won't punish them for there actions.. Bristol is a disgrace at times by letting this crap happen! Very true, the actions of gutless cowards
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Post by bluegas on Mar 21, 2021 22:38:20 GMT
I mean, whilst I don’t agree what’s happened at Bridewell in the aftermath, the initial protest is for good reason, the new protest bill pushes us towards authoritarianism, it wouldn’t look out of place in China or North Korea. From my experience we're already there. Police know very well how to manipulate laws already in place.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 21, 2021 23:07:34 GMT
Indeed they do , I have been on countless ‘ peaceful’ demonstrations , where the police have been under instruction to provoke the demonstrators creating retaliatory responses. .✊
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Post by nsblue on Mar 21, 2021 23:13:14 GMT
I fear a summer of discontent, nationwide, just as happened in 1980 & 81.
The gap between the haves and have nots has widen during Covid.
In the foreseeable future, potentially hundred of thousands possibly up to 2.5 million jobs could go once furlough ends, tens of thousands of people are facing eviction, retail, hospitality and travel industries face virtual extinction, the scientists are fear mongering with comments like get used to winter lockdown's, social distancing and mask wearing to last years etc and I would imagine if we are honest with ourselves we have all had enough!
The current daily figures are lower than at anytime in the past year, yet it won't be for an further 3 months before we are free and by then future spikes could delay that date.
I do not condone what happened in town today, but I understand the anger and frustration people must be suffering and sadly it is likely to explode in this way as more and more people become disenfranchised from normal life due to the policies of the government and the police will suffer the brunt of the backlash as custodians of law and order.
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Post by pirate on Mar 21, 2021 23:22:29 GMT
Setting police vans on fire, breaking police windows and setting off fireworks to scare the dogs, all in the name of the right to peacefully protest..... All actions or similar that have been carried out by undercover 'agent provocateurs' in the past to undermine legitimate protesters. An age old tactic. Everytime yobs hijack a protest it always makes me suspicious.
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Post by pirate on Mar 21, 2021 23:25:05 GMT
"This will be the biggest widening of police powers to impose restrictions on public protest that we’ve seen in our lifetimes,” Chris Daw QC, a leading barrister and author said.
“The bill hands over the power of deciding whether a protest is justified or should be allowed — decisions we as citizens have had for generations — directly to the Home Secretary. That’s an extremely chilling development. It’s completely contradictory to everything the liberty of the free citizen is about in Britain.”
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Post by peterparker on Mar 22, 2021 6:46:10 GMT
The stupid thing is, all the trouble after, provoked, not provoked, planned by protestors or not
It is just going to strengthen the argument for stricter police powers
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 6:59:13 GMT
The stupid thing is, all the trouble after, provoked, not provoked, planned by protestors or not It is just going to strengthen the argument for stricter police powers The politicians are implementing stricter police powers anyway, riots or no riots.
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Post by blueridge on Mar 22, 2021 7:10:32 GMT
I mean, whilst I don’t agree what’s happened at Bridewell in the aftermath, the initial protest is for good reason, the new protest bill pushes us towards authoritarianism, it wouldn’t look out of place in China or North Korea. “the initial protest is for good reason” - really!! This post typifies the selfish irresponsible acceptance of law breakers and the impact these sort of demonstrations have on the spread of coronavirus. The tens millions of millions that have endured and are continuing to endure lock down watching this disgusting behaviour and people on this forum ‘like’ this post - unbelievable. Anybody with a single brain cell wouldn’t agree as the poster puts it with “what’s happened at Bridewell - but they agree with the law breaking events that led up to it - you should all be ashamed of yourselves. This was always going to be a catalyst for the thugs that turn up to these events to confront the police and commit wanton acts of thuggery, violence, vandalism with a total disregard for law and order - and they blame the police for provocation - the same people who would want the police to sort out any crime committed against themselves.
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Post by baggins on Mar 22, 2021 7:30:46 GMT
The stupid thing is, all the trouble after, provoked, not provoked, planned by protestors or not It is just going to strengthen the argument for stricter police powers The politicians are implementing stricter police powers anyway, riots or no riots. To make up for lack of numbers?
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Mar 22, 2021 7:31:16 GMT
I mean, whilst I don’t agree what’s happened at Bridewell in the aftermath, the initial protest is for good reason, the new protest bill pushes us towards authoritarianism, it wouldn’t look out of place in China or North Korea. “the initial protest is for good reason” - really!! This post typifies the selfish irresponsible acceptance of law breakers and the impact these sort of demonstrations have on the spread of coronavirus. The tens millions of millions that have endured and are continuing to endure lock down watching this disgusting behaviour and people on this forum ‘like’ this post - unbelievable. Anybody with a single brain cell wouldn’t agree as the poster puts it with “what’s happened at Bridewell - but they agree with the law breaking events that led up to it - you should all be ashamed of yourselves. This was always going to be a catalyst for the thugs that turn up to these events to confront the police and commit wanton acts of thuggery, violence, vandalism with a total disregard for law and order - and they blame the police for provocation - the same people who would want the police to sort out any crime committed against them. Don’t be daft, what a ridiculous reply! there’s absolutely nothing wrong with a peaceful protest, especially one standing up for a basic right. Bet you’d be the first one to harp on about free speech!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 8:28:59 GMT
The politicians are implementing stricter police powers anyway, riots or no riots. To make up for lack of numbers? To prevent anyone protesting. i.e. you could be arrested if you took part in a peaceful protest.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Mar 22, 2021 8:35:22 GMT
I support the right to protest, it’s absolutely ludicrous to live in a world where that’s not allowed. To “protest” in the manner that it was last night though is out right wrong.
There have been moments I haven’t agreed with the police. For example, the way anti vaccine protesters are handled as opposed to BLM or the recent vigil for Sarah Everard. At the end of the day though it’s important to remember these people are just doing their jobs and following orders from those higher up.
My little brother is 18 years old and has wanted to be a copper for as long as I can remember. He gives up his free time to volunteer for the police whilst working his full time job too. Last night he got called in to help police this and it sickens me that this people have no thought of the person behind the uniform. Protest by all means but going out to hurt people, burn cars and cause damage and then you are no longer protesting.
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Post by blueridge on Mar 22, 2021 9:13:27 GMT
“the initial protest is for good reason” - really!! This post typifies the selfish irresponsible acceptance of law breakers and the impact these sort of demonstrations have on the spread of coronavirus. The tens millions of millions that have endured and are continuing to endure lock down watching this disgusting behaviour and people on this forum ‘like’ this post - unbelievable. Anybody with a single brain cell wouldn’t agree as the poster puts it with “what’s happened at Bridewell - but they agree with the law breaking events that led up to it - you should all be ashamed of yourselves. This was always going to be a catalyst for the thugs that turn up to these events to confront the police and commit wanton acts of thuggery, violence, vandalism with a total disregard for law and order - and they blame the police for provocation - the same people who would want the police to sort out any crime committed against them. Don’t be daft, what a ridiculous reply! there’s absolutely nothing wrong with a peaceful protest, especially one standing up for a basic right. Bet you’d be the first one to harp on about free speech! “Peaceful protest” that’s currently breaking the law of land, which contributed wholly to the disgraceful scenes witnessed in our City. I support law and order but you are condoning protests which you know full well will lead to what happened yesterday with police officers ending up in hospital with broken limbs and tens of thousands of pounds worth of damage having to be payed for the taxpayer. What a way to demonstrate the right to “free speech” and you and other condone it - shameful.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 22, 2021 9:41:45 GMT
I support the right to protest, it’s absolutely ludicrous to live in a world where that’s not allowed. To “protest” in the manner that it was last night though is out right wrong. There have been moments I haven’t agreed with the police. For example, the way anti vaccine protesters are handled as opposed to BLM or the recent vigil for Sarah Everard. At the end of the day though it’s important to remember these people are just doing their jobs and following orders from those higher up. My little brother is 18 years old and has wanted to be a copper for as long as I can remember. He gives up his free time to volunteer for the police whilst working his full time job too. Last night he got called in to help police this and it sickens me that this people have no thought of the person behind the uniform. Protest by all means but going out to hurt people, burn cars and cause damage and then you are no longer protesting. This is actually a point I thought of last night. Just an observation that the protests last night seems to be of little issue - attacking a police building. Yet people went absolutely mental for BLM protests, even when they were peaceful. On this forum alone, the thread went absolutely crazy with posts coming in by the second. Here though, we haven’t even reached the 2nd page. I certainly didn’t see posts suggesting the police were antagonists during the BLM protests?
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