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Post by Gassy on Mar 22, 2021 9:44:48 GMT
Don’t be daft, what a ridiculous reply! there’s absolutely nothing wrong with a peaceful protest, especially one standing up for a basic right. Bet you’d be the first one to harp on about free speech! “Peaceful protest” that’s currently breaking the law of land, which contributed wholly to the disgraceful scenes witnessed in our City. I support law and order but you are condoning protests which you know full well will lead to what happened yesterday with police officers ending up in hospital with broken limbs and tens of thousands of pounds worth of damage having to be payed for the taxpayer. What a way to demonstrate the right to “free speech” and you and other condone it - shameful. I think you’re confusing the violence of the protest and the reason for protesting itself. Yes both are illegal, but so is having a picnic and I see thousands of people doing this over the weekend. No one is supporting yesterday’s violence.
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Post by blueridge on Mar 22, 2021 10:14:24 GMT
“Peaceful protest” that’s currently breaking the law of land, which contributed wholly to the disgraceful scenes witnessed in our City. I support law and order but you are condoning protests which you know full well will lead to what happened yesterday with police officers ending up in hospital with broken limbs and tens of thousands of pounds worth of damage having to be payed for the taxpayer. What a way to demonstrate the right to “free speech” and you and other condone it - shameful. I think you’re confusing the violence of the protest and the reason for protesting itself. Yes both are illegal, but so is having a picnic and I see thousands of people doing this over the weekend. No one is supporting yesterday’s violence. I’m not confusing anything. As I said in my first post - the protest was illegal in the first place and was the catalyst for all this happening. Trying to compare the gathering’s of thousands of people with the potential to ‘kick off’ into something a lot more sinister with people gathering for picnic is really stretching it. We all have the right to protest, but now is not the time to do it.
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Post by peterparker on Mar 22, 2021 10:14:28 GMT
Here is a whole twitter thread of how the day went down
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Post by bluegas on Mar 22, 2021 10:14:55 GMT
Indeed they do , I have been on countless ‘ peaceful’ demonstrations , where the police have been under instruction to provoke the demonstrators creating retaliatory responses. .✊ I'm talking about lying in court, arguably perjury /perverting the course of justice. I've taken it up with the force in question's Professional Standards Department. Absolute joke. Won't admit what's in black and white. Really sad fact is they were supported by very biased benches. I could go for a Judicial Review, but that would probably be a waste of time. Then the time years ago I was pulled in late at night, yards from home. No reason, no charges. Took me years to realise the idea was to get me to react, giving the two of them an excuse to beat me up, for 'obstructing a police officer in the course of his duty'. You could sympathise with the job they have to do, but they don't help themselves. Bear in mind also that three blokes have been shot in recent years and no-one has really been held responsible.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 22, 2021 10:21:13 GMT
Indeed they do , I have been on countless ‘ peaceful’ demonstrations , where the police have been under instruction to provoke the demonstrators creating retaliatory responses. .✊ You may laugh Eric , how many demonstrations have you attended, I have seen it with my own eyes , I’m a 5ft 4inch slim woman , I go onn demonstrations in the hope of changing things that I feel are unjust , I do not go to cause trouble or intimidate anyone , but some of the actions I have witnessed over the years from our boys in blue has left eye at first amazed and horrified, ☹️to deeply sceptical .
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 22, 2021 10:32:05 GMT
Indeed they do , I have been on countless ‘ peaceful’ demonstrations , where the police have been under instruction to provoke the demonstrators creating retaliatory responses. .✊ I'm talking about lying in court, arguably perjury /perverting the course of justice. I've taken it up with the force in question's Professional Standards Department. Absolute joke. Won't admit what's in black and white. Really sad fact is they were supported by very biased benches. I could go for a Judicial Review, but that would probably be a waste of time. Then the time years ago I was pulled in late at night, yards from home. No reason, no charges. Took me years to realise the idea was to get me to react, giving the two of them an excuse to beat me up, for 'obstructing a police officer in the course of his duty'. You could sympathise with the job they have to do, but they don't help themselves. Bear in mind also that three blokes have been shot in recent years and no-one has really been held responsible. Yes , I knew what you were referring to bluegas, just briefly putting in my own experiences.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 22, 2021 10:39:13 GMT
The fact this happened during a lockdown where a pandemic is happening makes this so much worse.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 11:01:34 GMT
The fact this happened during a lockdown where a pandemic is happening makes this so much worse. Yeah, why would the government try to pass a Draconian anti protest bill during a pandemic, when people are already suffering enough as it is?
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 22, 2021 12:34:25 GMT
Exactly 👍🤐
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Post by baggins on Mar 22, 2021 12:40:20 GMT
The fact this happened during a lockdown where a pandemic is happening makes this so much worse. Shouldn't have happened, full stop.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 22, 2021 16:24:00 GMT
The fact this happened during a lockdown where a pandemic is happening makes this so much worse. Shouldn't have happened, full stop. That protest shouldn't have happenef FULL STOP given that we are in the middle of a lockdown, and a deadly pandemic! There is no excuse.. However, I've got no problem with people's right to Protest even if I disagree with there views, but not right now due to C19. Its our right to Protest if need be, but yesterday got took over by the "Far/radical" Left when the lights went down ( They're cowardly style) and shamed this City and the decent protesters there yesterday.. Isn't it interesting,that in the last year's two mass national/international acts of violence have happen in this country, and both have happened in Bristol and committed by the Far left... Yesterday and with the George Floyd/Colston bollocks.. Says it all.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 22, 2021 16:37:46 GMT
Shouldn't have happened, full stop. That protest shouldn't have happenef FULL STOP given that we are in the middle of a lockdown, and a deadly pandemic! There is no excuse.. However, I've got no problem with people's right to Protest even if I disagree with there views, but not right now due to C19. Its our right to Protest if need be, but yesterday got took over by the "Far/radical" Left when the lights went down ( They're cowardly style) and shamed this City and the decent protesters there yesterday.. Isn't it interesting,that in the last year's two mass national/international acts of violence have happen in this country, and both have happened in Bristol and committed by the Far left... Yesterday and with the George Floyd/Colston bollocks.. Says it all. How do you know they were far left? Genuine question and I expect some genuine proof if you’re going to turn this political?
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Post by Icegas on Mar 22, 2021 17:24:15 GMT
That protest shouldn't have happenef FULL STOP given that we are in the middle of a lockdown, and a deadly pandemic! There is no excuse.. However, I've got no problem with people's right to Protest even if I disagree with there views, but not right now due to C19. Its our right to Protest if need be, but yesterday got took over by the "Far/radical" Left when the lights went down ( They're cowardly style) and shamed this City and the decent protesters there yesterday.. Isn't it interesting,that in the last year's two mass national/international acts of violence have happen in this country, and both have happened in Bristol and committed by the Far left... Yesterday and with the George Floyd/Colston bollocks.. Says it all. How do you know they were far left? Genuine question and I expect some genuine proof if you’re going to turn this political. Or is this coming from the same place as when you said, “The most racially attacked section of society today is the middle aged white man.” When thugs throw sh** through police building windows, and set Cop vans on fire during at a "peaceful" protest against the police.... then I'm sorry it's already political. It's very clear that the "thugs" ...the violent one's that are very brave in a pack, and when it was its dark are from the far left.. so don't try to be facetious. As for the most racially attacked/middle aged man comment what's that got to do this this subject? Dont jab because you can punch..
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Post by henry on Mar 22, 2021 17:31:10 GMT
I think you’re confusing the violence of the protest and the reason for protesting itself. Yes both are illegal, but so is having a picnic and I see thousands of people doing this over the weekend. No one is supporting yesterday’s violence. I’m not confusing anything. As I said in my first post - the protest was illegal in the first place and was the catalyst for all this happening. Trying to compare the gathering’s of thousands of people with the potential to ‘kick off’ into something a lot more sinister with people gathering for picnic is really stretching it. We all have the right to protest, but now is not the time to do it. Exactly and the only people defending this ‘right to protest’ are the usual anti English, pro European fruit cakes who will defend anything the normal English person would condemn. Before this protest got nasty every single one of them was breaking the law. Full stop. What happened when the protest turned nasty was an orchestrated piece of anarchy and I hope the camera footage the police have will be used and end up in court appearances for those involved. These are unbelievable times but what goes on in the minds of any sane person to want to protest? Especially being so close to other unwashed dregs of society. How many times does a protest of any kind change anything? A genuine question as I have never protested as I don’t feel the need to herd up and bang a bloody drum dressed like fruit loop.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 22, 2021 17:33:26 GMT
How do you know they were far left? Genuine question and I expect some genuine proof if you’re going to turn this political. Or is this coming from the same place as when you said, “The most racially attacked section of society today is the middle aged white man.” When thugs throw sh** through police building windows, and set Cop vans on fire during at a "peaceful" protest against the police.... then I'm sorry it's already political. It's very clear that the "thugs" ...the violent one's that are very brave in a pack, and when it was its dark are from the far left.. so don't try to be facetious. As for the most racially attacked/middle aged man comment what's that got to do this this subject? Dont jab because you can punch.. How is it a left or right political argument? As expected you have absolutely nothing to back up what you’re saying, you just want to point fingers and cause divide. Your only proof is by saying it’s people from the far left because ‘they act brave in a pack’. Fantastic analysis. The comment about you mentioning racism was to give context that you’re talking out of your backside with nothing to back up what you’re saying. I edited it out after as upon reflection I couldn’t be bothered to get into the discussion, but you’d already clicked reply it seems. Also, if you’d care to explain your last comment about jabbing and punching please
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Post by Gassy on Mar 22, 2021 17:35:13 GMT
I’m not confusing anything. As I said in my first post - the protest was illegal in the first place and was the catalyst for all this happening. Trying to compare the gathering’s of thousands of people with the potential to ‘kick off’ into something a lot more sinister with people gathering for picnic is really stretching it. We all have the right to protest, but now is not the time to do it. Exactly and the only people defending this ‘right to protest’ are the usual anti English, pro European fruit cakes who will defend anything the normal English person would condemn] What are you on about? 😂
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 22, 2021 17:50:22 GMT
I’m not confusing anything. As I said in my first post - the protest was illegal in the first place and was the catalyst for all this happening. Trying to compare the gathering’s of thousands of people with the potential to ‘kick off’ into something a lot more sinister with people gathering for picnic is really stretching it. We all have the right to protest, but now is not the time to do it. Exactly and the only people defending this ‘right to protest’ are the usual anti English, pro European fruit cakes who will defend anything the normal English person would condemn. Before this protest got nasty every single one of them was breaking the law. Full stop. What happened when the protest turned nasty was an orchestrated piece of anarchy and I hope the camera footage the police have will be used and end up in court appearances for those involved. These are unbelievable times but what goes on in the minds of any sane person to want to protest? Especially being so close to other unwashed dregs of society. How many times does a protest of any kind change anything? A genuine question as I have never protested as I don’t feel the need to herd up and bang a bloody drum dressed like fruit loop. What has the way people choose to dress got anything to do with this .
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Post by blueridge on Mar 22, 2021 18:20:52 GMT
I find it odd that some posters who I’ve respected in the past with some of their posting have come onto this thread and supported this protest (an illegal protest) and not mentioned one word in condemnation for the violence or thuggery displayed. Sad state of affairs really.
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Post by Icegas on Mar 22, 2021 18:31:58 GMT
When thugs throw sh** through police building windows, and set Cop vans on fire during at a "peaceful" protest against the police.... then I'm sorry it's already political. It's very clear that the "thugs" ...the violent one's that are very brave in a pack, and when it was its dark are from the far left.. so don't try to be facetious. As for the most racially attacked/middle aged man comment what's that got to do this this subject? Dont jab because you can punch.. How is it a left or right political argument? As expected you have absolutely nothing to back up what you’re saying, you just want to point fingers and cause divide. Your only proof is by saying it’s people from the far left because ‘they act brave in a pack’. Fantastic analysis. The comment about you mentioning racism was to give context that you’re talking out of your backside with nothing to back up what you’re saying. I edited it out after as upon reflection I couldn’t be bothered to get into the discussion, but you’d already clicked reply it seems. Also, if you’d care to explain your last comment about jabbing and punching please It means your pulling up some of my past statements about the middle aged white males on another thread ( eg:Jabbing) even tho it has nothing to do with this subject here - that's how the (Being able to punch part comes in) even tho its not connected with this event.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 22, 2021 18:37:29 GMT
How is it a left or right political argument? As expected you have absolutely nothing to back up what you’re saying, you just want to point fingers and cause divide. Your only proof is by saying it’s people from the far left because ‘they act brave in a pack’. Fantastic analysis. The comment about you mentioning racism was to give context that you’re talking out of your backside with nothing to back up what you’re saying. I edited it out after as upon reflection I couldn’t be bothered to get into the discussion, but you’d already clicked reply it seems. Also, if you’d care to explain your last comment about jabbing and punching please It means your pulling up some of my past statements about the middle aged white males on another thread ( eg:Jabbing) even tho it has nothing to do with this subject here - that's how the (Being able to punch part comes in) even tho its not connected with this event. Fair enough, thanks for explaining. How’re you doing btw, back to full fitness? No long covid symptoms I hope?
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