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Post by Gassy on Mar 26, 2021 21:36:29 GMT
It was peaceful , I saw no violence . Nothing remarkable , just a run of the mill demo . Seems attending a protest got more of a reaction than Cummings from some. Glad it went well, what’s the general feeling like there? I didn’t realise the bill would mean you can get 10 years for attending a protest, but only 5 years for rape. Is that true?!
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Post by Gassy on Mar 26, 2021 21:40:32 GMT
Always makes me laugh how people want peaceful protests shut down with violence.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 26, 2021 21:58:06 GMT
It was peaceful , I saw no violence . Nothing remarkable , just a run of the mill demo . Seems attending a protest got more of a reaction than Cummings from some. Glad it went well, what’s the general feeling like there? I didn’t realise the bill would mean you can get 10 years for attending a protest, but only 5 years for rape. Is that true?! I know that if found guilty you could b liable to 10 yrs imprisonment for destruction of a statues etc , which I find unbelievable , before I left the mood was good plenty of chanting singing , age group of most protester very young , I saw no disturbances , other than the police telling a female protester of around 16 years old she would be arrested if she didn’t discard the placard she was carrying which had the word f...... y on it , 🥱 that caused a bit of a stir , apart from that nothing !
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Post by oldie on Mar 26, 2021 22:06:22 GMT
Seems attending a protest got more of a reaction than Cummings from some. Glad it went well, what’s the general feeling like there? I didn’t realise the bill would mean you can get 10 years for attending a protest, but only 5 years for rape. Is that true?! I know that if found guilty you could b liable to 10 yrs imprisonment for destruction of a statues etc , which I find unbelievable , before I left the mood was good plenty of chanting singing , age group of most protester very young , I saw no disturbances , other than the police telling a female protester of around 16 years old she would be arrested if she didn’t discard the placard she was carrying which had the word f...... y on it , 🥱 that caused a bit of a stir , apart from that nothing ! Threatening to arrest a kid for carrying a placard because of its wording??..Jesus Christ. Best one I ever saw was a young lady carrying a placard that said "Trump, I would call you a c*nt, but you have no warmth and lack depth" That still makes me laugh
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Post by oldie on Mar 26, 2021 22:10:31 GMT
Seems attending a protest got more of a reaction than Cummings from some. Glad it went well, what’s the general feeling like there? I didn’t realise the bill would mean you can get 10 years for attending a protest, but only 5 years for rape. Is that true?! I know that if found guilty you could b liable to 10 yrs imprisonment for destruction of a statues etc , which I find unbelievable , before I left the mood was good plenty of chanting singing , age group of most protester very young , I saw no disturbances , other than the police telling a female protester of around 16 years old she would be arrested if she didn’t discard the placard she was carrying which had the word f...... y on it , 🥱 that caused a bit of a stir , apart from that nothing ! This is one of the bigger issues in the proposed bill, alongside the nuisance arrests. Up to ten years for defacing or damaging a monument. 10 years, but less for rape. Not that you hardly ever get prosecuted for attacking women in any event...😔
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 26, 2021 22:13:24 GMT
Exactly , and people criticise us for protesting !
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 26, 2021 22:17:22 GMT
Beautiful memorial to Sarah Everard on College Green ,dozens of bouquets around a tree .
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Post by francegas on Mar 26, 2021 22:23:37 GMT
I know that if found guilty you could b liable to 10 yrs imprisonment for destruction of a statues etc , which I find unbelievable , before I left the mood was good plenty of chanting singing , age group of most protester very young , I saw no disturbances , other than the police telling a female protester of around 16 years old she would be arrested if she didn’t discard the placard she was carrying which had the word f...... y on it , 🥱 that caused a bit of a stir , apart from that nothing ! Threatening to arrest a kid for carrying a placard because of its wording??..Jesus Christ. Best one I ever saw was a young lady carrying a placard that said "Trump, I would call you a c*nt, but you have no warmth and lack depth" That still makes me laugh Maybe the threat of imprisonment for destruction of a statue just may prevent the thugs from doing it. Surely that's not a bad thing. In respect of a kid carrying a placard containing abusive language if he/she was asked to remove it by the Police and they did what's the issue. If they refused and were then threatened with arrest again what's the issue.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 26, 2021 22:26:22 GMT
Threatening to arrest a kid for carrying a placard because of its wording??..Jesus Christ. Best one I ever saw was a young lady carrying a placard that said "Trump, I would call you a c*nt, but you have no warmth and lack depth" That still makes me laugh Maybe the threat of imprisonment for destruction of a statue just may prevent the thugs from doing it. Surely that's not a bad thing. In respect of a kid carrying a placard containing abusive language if he/she was asked to remove it by the Police and they did what's the issue. If they refused and were then threatened with arrest again what's the issue. Do you think causing damage to a statue should be a worse punishment than rape? It is the lack of consistency that gets people.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Mar 26, 2021 22:29:38 GMT
Exactly , and people criticise us for protesting ! Good on you mate, in years to come you’ll be on the right side of history.
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Post by francegas on Mar 26, 2021 23:04:00 GMT
Maybe the threat of imprisonment for destruction of a statue just may prevent the thugs from doing it. Surely that's not a bad thing. In respect of a kid carrying a placard containing abusive language if he/she was asked to remove it by the Police and they did what's the issue. If they refused and were then threatened with arrest again what's the issue. Do you think causing damage to a statue should be a worse punishment than rape? It is the lack of consistency that gets people. Of course I don't. In the same way I believe the little sh*ts who murdered Jamie Bulger deserved more than the 8 years they got and at the time being able to walk away with new identities and lifelong anonymity having never spent a day in an adult prison. But it's down to the courts to administer the full force of the law and sentence to the max. Surely you don't honestly believe a judge will give a full 10 year sentence to someone damaging a statute and give a more lenient sentence to a convicted rapist.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 26, 2021 23:23:24 GMT
Do you think causing damage to a statue should be a worse punishment than rape? It is the lack of consistency that gets people. Of course I don't. In the same way I believe the little sh*ts who murdered Jamie Bulger deserved more than the 8 years they got and at the time being able to walk away with new identities and lifelong anonymity having never spent a day in an adult prison. But it's down to the courts to administer the full force of the law and sentence to the max. Surely you don't honestly believe a judge will give a full 10 year sentence to someone damaging a statute and give a more lenient sentence to a convicted rapist. I hope not, but in all honesty it wouldn’t surprised me. The point is though that we shouldn’t be hoping for a judge to make corrections for the law.
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Post by oldie on Mar 27, 2021 6:38:38 GMT
Of course I don't. In the same way I believe the little sh*ts who murdered Jamie Bulger deserved more than the 8 years they got and at the time being able to walk away with new identities and lifelong anonymity having never spent a day in an adult prison. But it's down to the courts to administer the full force of the law and sentence to the max. Surely you don't honestly believe a judge will give a full 10 year sentence to someone damaging a statute and give a more lenient sentence to a convicted rapist. I hope not, but in all honesty it wouldn’t surprised me. The point is though that we shouldn’t be hoping for a judge to make corrections for the law. Precisely..
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Post by francegas on Mar 27, 2021 7:14:31 GMT
Of course I don't. In the same way I believe the little sh*ts who murdered Jamie Bulger deserved more than the 8 years they got and at the time being able to walk away with new identities and lifelong anonymity having never spent a day in an adult prison. But it's down to the courts to administer the full force of the law and sentence to the max. Surely you don't honestly believe a judge will give a full 10 year sentence to someone damaging a statute and give a more lenient sentence to a convicted rapist. I hope not, but in all honesty it wouldn’t surprised me. The point is though that we shouldn’t be hoping for a judge to make corrections for the law. But we always have done. How can one judge pass sentence, the sentence then appealed against only for a second judge to give a more lenient sentence and then when that is appealed against a third judge gives a different sentence.
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Post by peterparker on Mar 27, 2021 7:42:00 GMT
So kicked off again last night
Some despicable actions on both sides
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Post by blueridge on Mar 27, 2021 8:16:41 GMT
Seems attending a protest got more of a reaction than Cummings from some. Glad it went well, what’s the general feeling like there? I didn’t realise the bill would mean you can get 10 years for attending a protest, but only 5 years for rape. Is that true?! I know that if found guilty you could b liable to 10 yrs imprisonment for destruction of a statues etc , which I find unbelievable , before I left the mood was good plenty of chanting singing , age group of most protester very young , I saw no disturbances , other than the police telling a female protester of around 16 years old she would be arrested if she didn’t discard the placard she was carrying which had the word f...... y on it , 🥱 that caused a bit of a stir , apart from that nothing ! Why would a child be at a protest carrying a banner with expletives on it in the first place?
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Post by blueridge on Mar 27, 2021 8:17:34 GMT
Always makes me laugh how people want peaceful protests shut down with violence. Nice selfie Gassy - what a handsome boy you are.
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Post by oldie on Mar 27, 2021 8:56:06 GMT
I know that if found guilty you could b liable to 10 yrs imprisonment for destruction of a statues etc , which I find unbelievable , before I left the mood was good plenty of chanting singing , age group of most protester very young , I saw no disturbances , other than the police telling a female protester of around 16 years old she would be arrested if she didn’t discard the placard she was carrying which had the word f...... y on it , 🥱 that caused a bit of a stir , apart from that nothing ! Why would a child be at a protest carrying a banner with expletives on it in the first place? Come on Blueridge We cannot go around arresting people for swearing. This is becoming ridiculous
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Post by blueridge on Mar 27, 2021 9:28:37 GMT
Why would a child be at a protest carrying a banner with expletives on it in the first place? Come on Blueridge We cannot go around arresting people for swearing. This is becoming ridiculous Of course not oldie - but that wasn’t the point I was making. Where does it stop - writing expletives on a placard (particularly a child) to get your point across actually destroys the point - people tend to react to the expletive not the message as in this minor episode. Who knows, if this young person feels it’s the norm to be able to express themselves in this way - which is offensive to the majority btw - that they take the next step and start spraying expletives on walls. I need to make myself clear - I have absolutely no problem with a legal protest whether I agree with the reasons for it or not - but at the moment the protests are illegal whether we like it or not. All that these protests have really achieved is the media coverage of the violence - that’s what will be broadcast around the world (backed up I might add from various messages I’ve received - what the f**k is going on in Bristol?) these protests have achieved zilch and have only reinforced the Governments position on this Bill. Seems to me that these protests are almost exclusive to Bristol - on the face of it there appears to be a nation wide apathy to this Bill - but I could be mistaken of course.
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Post by peterparker on Mar 27, 2021 10:04:09 GMT
Come on Blueridge We cannot go around arresting people for swearing. This is becoming ridiculous Of course not oldie - but that wasn’t the point I was making. Where does it stop - writing expletives on a placard (particularly a child) to get your point across actually destroys the point - people tend to react to the expletive not the message as in this minor episode. Who knows, if this young person feels it’s the norm to be able to express themselves in this way - which is offensive to the majority btw - that they take the next step and start spraying expletives on walls. I need to make myself clear - I have absolutely no problem with a legal protest whether I agree with the reasons for it or not - but at the moment the protests are illegal whether we like it or not. All that these protests have really achieved is the media coverage of the violence - that’s what will be broadcast around the world (backed up I might add from various messages I’ve received - what the f**k is going on in Bristol?) these protests have achieved zilch and have only reinforced the Governments position on this Bill. Seems to me that these protests are almost exclusive to Bristol - on the face of it there appears to be a nation wide apathy to this Bill - but I could be mistaken of course. One planned for Kingston today www.google.com/amp/s/www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/kingston-protest-police-warn-people-20268850.amp
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