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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 28, 2021 14:07:52 GMT
I meant what similar names , but different views , apart from yourself oldgas, and a notable few , finding it quite depressing on here , never mind onwards and upwards , bfn 💙 Quite depressing yeah, but not as much as the rovers section! Can't bring myself to post in there for ages now as there isn't much you can say about crap football. Do find you get a good cross section of views in here though, without the attention seeking you'd get on Twitter or Facebook. I meant oldie obvs, getting soooo confused between OLDIE&OLDGAS !!! 😩 the names ,, not the opinions ! 😄 |
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Post by baggins on Mar 28, 2021 14:42:26 GMT
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Post by oldie on Mar 28, 2021 14:45:44 GMT
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Post by baggins on Mar 28, 2021 14:47:41 GMT
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Post by wrongsideoftheriver on Mar 28, 2021 14:50:07 GMT
Anyone who attended are pure and utter scum, putting so many lifes in danger by attending.
1 protest was bad enough,to contiunally keep having them is idiotic and senseless.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 28, 2021 14:50:12 GMT
Apologies to oldie , meant oldgas ,! What similar, but different views you both have 😄 Purdown We share the same generation but little in terms of values and I suspect life experiences. Just read this. A touch arrogant I think. We’ve heard all about your international business success, no doubt based on a kind of Not For Profit, Marxist. Rotherhood of man basis. I am very comfortable with my values, thank you very much. As for life experiences, you don’t have the first idea of the things I’ve done in my life or the people I’ve met or the things I have witnessed first hand, so please less the I’ve had a fuller more rounded life than you suggestion. |
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Post by oldgas on Mar 28, 2021 15:18:00 GMT
Is that what you truly believe? Really? Thats akin to me saying those rioters are Remainers personified. You really are very strange. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 28, 2021 18:06:18 GMT
Purdown We share the same generation but little in terms of values and I suspect life experiences. Just read this. A touch arrogant I think. We’ve heard all about your international business success, no doubt based on a kind of Not For Profit, Marxist. Rotherhood of man basis. I am very comfortable with my values, thank you very much. As for life experiences, you don’t have the first idea of the things I’ve done in my life or the people I’ve met or the things I have witnessed first hand, so please less the I’ve had a fuller more rounded life than you suggestion. France / Eric You can like this as much as you like, but his and mine contributions to this thread alone absolutely expose our differing values. In terms of life experiences, I used the term "I suspect" because of course I don't know. Strange that the use of the English language passes so many people by. But I do recall this. I asked Oldgas some time ago (given our generation) if he recalled the National Front activities of the late 60s to 70s. He said he did, whilst saying he disagreed with them he went on to rant about the appearance and nature of those that opposed and demonstrated against them. There can be no illigitmate demonstration against an organisation such as that. Not in appearance, nature and absolutely not in values. Values...indeed |
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Post by oldie on Mar 28, 2021 18:08:24 GMT
Is that what you truly believe? Really? Thats akin to me saying those rioters are Remainers personified. You really are very strange. 😂😂😂 As Baggs said ( and got the humour) Innit |
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Post by oldie on Mar 28, 2021 18:09:36 GMT
Anyone who attended are pure and utter scum, putting so many lifes in danger by attending. 1 protest was bad enough,to contiunally keep having them is idiotic and senseless. Thank you for your considered contribution |
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Post by oldgas on Mar 28, 2021 19:27:07 GMT
Just read this. A touch arrogant I think. We’ve heard all about your international business success, no doubt based on a kind of Not For Profit, Marxist. Rotherhood of man basis. I am very comfortable with my values, thank you very much. As for life experiences, you don’t have the first idea of the things I’ve done in my life or the people I’ve met or the things I have witnessed first hand, so please less the I’ve had a fuller more rounded life than you suggestion. France / Eric You can like this as much as you like, but his and mine contributions to this thread alone absolutely expose our differing values. In terms of life experiences, I used the term "I suspect" because of course I don't know. Strange that the use of the English language passes so many people by. But I do recall this. I asked Oldgas some time ago (given our generation) if he recalled the National Front activities of the late 60s to 70s. He said he did, whilst saying he disagreed with them he went on to rant about the appearance and nature of those that opposed and demonstrated against them. There can be no illigitmate demonstration against an organisation such as that. Not in appearance, nature and absolutely not in values. Values...indeed You just said, in effect, that you have no idea with regard to my life experiences. You are therefore totally wrong to suspect that yours are more varied, in depth or by any other measure because you just don’t know. It seems, therefore, that my grasp and usage of theEnglish language is at least the equal of yours. As for my experiences of the NF and the Anti-Nazi League and the other raggle taggle groups that came along for the crack, it is difficult to decide which group was the more repulsive. on the one hand you had the NF Neanderthals who, despite their odious views looked like they had a passing acquaintance with soap and water, and most of them were in work. Fairly low grade as you might expect, but at least they were making a contribution. The others were to a person dirty, smelly, unkempt social security scrounges who seemed to be in the vanguard of obscene body piercings and specialised in stinking of BO. A comparison with fox hunting comes to mind when describing these incidents, “the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible” |
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Post by Gassy on Mar 28, 2021 20:20:49 GMT
Is that what you truly believe? Really? Thats akin to me saying those rioters are Remainers personified. You really are very strange. 😂😂😂 As Baggs said ( and got the humour) Innit The irony is, the message being peddled is that anyone who protests (or frankly just disagrees with the other lot) is branded either "marxist" or "far left". So based on their logic, I'd completely agree with your statement. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 28, 2021 21:05:03 GMT
France / Eric You can like this as much as you like, but his and mine contributions to this thread alone absolutely expose our differing values. In terms of life experiences, I used the term "I suspect" because of course I don't know. Strange that the use of the English language passes so many people by. But I do recall this. I asked Oldgas some time ago (given our generation) if he recalled the National Front activities of the late 60s to 70s. He said he did, whilst saying he disagreed with them he went on to rant about the appearance and nature of those that opposed and demonstrated against them. There can be no illigitmate demonstration against an organisation such as that. Not in appearance, nature and absolutely not in values. Values...indeed You just said, in effect, that you have no idea with regard to my life experiences. You are therefore totally wrong to suspect that yours are more varied, in depth or by any other measure because you just don’t know. It seems, therefore, that my grasp and usage of theEnglish language is at least the equal of yours. As for my experiences of the NF and the Anti-Nazi League and the other raggle taggle groups that came along for the crack, it is difficult to decide which group was the more repulsive. on the one hand you had the NF Neanderthals who, despite their odious views looked like they had a passing acquaintance with soap and water, and most of them were in work. Fairly low grade as you might expect, but at least they were making a contribution. The others were to a person dirty, smelly, unkempt social security scrounges who seemed to be in the vanguard of obscene body piercings and specialised in stinking of BO. A comparison with fox hunting comes to mind when describing these incidents, “the unspeakable in pursuit of the inedible” At what point are you going to comprehend, "I suspect"... The rest of your rant is there for all to read and exposes you for what you are. |
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Post by oldie on Mar 29, 2021 4:58:10 GMT
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Post by oldie on Mar 29, 2021 5:01:56 GMT
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Post by francegas on Mar 29, 2021 6:56:13 GMT
Oldie...there's two sides to every story.
Baggins summed it up at the bottom of the previous page with the cartoon post.
Sorry but I just don't believe that police rocked up to people being peaceful asked them to move on and before they stood up started battering them with their batons.
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Post by matealotblue on Mar 29, 2021 7:11:03 GMT
Oldie...there's two sides to every story. Baggins summed it up at the bottom of the previous page with the cartoon post. Sorry but I just don't believe that police rocked up to people being peaceful asked them to move on and before they stood up started battering them with their batons. Probably upset by attempted murder maybe.....? |
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Mar 29, 2021 8:04:14 GMT
Oldie...there's two sides to every story. Baggins summed it up at the bottom of the previous page with the cartoon post. Sorry but I just don't believe that police rocked up to people being peaceful asked them to move on and before they stood up started battering them with their batons. I can tell you from personal experience (albeit maybe 10 years or so ago) that they have form in this. Its almost as if they recieve some order and the tactics switch. They get aggressive and if you aren't quick enough it's batons and dogs. I'm not saying that's what happened here but I've seen peaceful demos go that way. |
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Post by matealotblue on Mar 29, 2021 8:31:38 GMT
Oldie...there's two sides to every story. Baggins summed it up at the bottom of the previous page with the cartoon post. Sorry but I just don't believe that police rocked up to people being peaceful asked them to move on and before they stood up started battering them with their batons. I can tell you from personal experience (albeit maybe 10 years or so ago) that they have form in this. Its almost as if they recieve some order and the tactics switch. They get aggressive and if you aren't quick enough it's batons and dogs. I'm not saying that's what happened here but I've seen peaceful demos go that way. In any demonstration like this the switch from containment to clearance is always a potential flashpoint. General strategy seems to be contain with appeals to disperse, which will go on for so long. If no one is heeding that then, apart from staying there adinfinitum, they are left with only one option but to move people along in a more direct style. How that is managed - on both sides - is always the tricky bit. Police know it and demonstrators (including those that want to utilise this potential flashpoint) know it. Think the Police stated in the press that they had allowed this one to go that route from about 4pm to about 10 pm and then started to disperse....the rest is history as they say🤔 |
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Post by oldie on Mar 29, 2021 9:46:20 GMT
Oldie...there's two sides to every story. Baggins summed it up at the bottom of the previous page with the cartoon post. Sorry but I just don't believe that police rocked up to people being peaceful asked them to move on and before they stood up started battering them with their batons. Oh Absolutely. But I think the media have only been feeding one side and certainly our esteemed government have only been using pejorative language to describe the demonstrators. I still hold overall sympathy for the police, they are being forced to defend the indefensible |
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