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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 31, 2021 18:01:03 GMT
Omg , are you for real !!!!! l
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Post by blueridge on Mar 31, 2021 18:33:04 GMT
By the way, do we know if there was any violence at the protests tonight? No, reason we’re only estimated to be about 300 there. Far too few to cause bother when they only outnumber the Police by about 3 to 1, not their idea of fair odds. Also, did you see the state of them? Pathetic looking idiots who probably draw far more than they put in. 300, wow, that’s really representative of a city of approaching 500,000 citizens. It was hilarious - there were two guys who I can only assume to be pantomime idiots dressed up as IRA characters in full black balaclavas, fatigue trousers, black gloves & black boots accompanied by Lady Gaga - you couldn’t make it up. It took me back to a Monty Python sketch.
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Post by stuart1974 on Mar 31, 2021 18:52:18 GMT
By the way, do we know if there was any violence at the protests tonight? No, reason we’re only estimated to be about 300 there. Far too few to cause bother when they only outnumber the Police by about 3 to 1, not their idea of fair odds. Also, did you see the state of them? Pathetic looking idiots who probably draw far more than they put in. 300, wow, that’s really representative of a city of approaching 500,000 citizens. It's not the size that matters, but how you do it. Besides, do you know they draw more out or just 'suspect'? 😆
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Post by oldie on Mar 31, 2021 19:28:40 GMT
No, reason we’re only estimated to be about 300 there. Far too few to cause bother when they only outnumber the Police by about 3 to 1, not their idea of fair odds. Also, did you see the state of them? Pathetic looking idiots who probably draw far more than they put in. 300, wow, that’s really representative of a city of approaching 500,000 citizens. It's not the size that matters, but how you do it. Besides, do you know they draw more out or just 'suspect'? 😆 The way they look. Again, it's not about the point, it's just blind, ignorant prejudice. Hopefully the Tories will alter the wording. That's the point.
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Post by oldie on Mar 31, 2021 19:30:36 GMT
No, reason we’re only estimated to be about 300 there. Far too few to cause bother when they only outnumber the Police by about 3 to 1, not their idea of fair odds. Also, did you see the state of them? Pathetic looking idiots who probably draw far more than they put in. 300, wow, that’s really representative of a city of approaching 500,000 citizens. It was hilarious - there were two guys who I can only assume to be pantomime idiots dressed up as IRA characters in full black balaclavas, fatigue trousers, black gloves & black boots accompanied by Lady Gaga - you couldn’t make it up. It took me back to a Monty Python sketch. But, the point of the demo?
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Post by blueridge on Mar 31, 2021 19:48:23 GMT
It was hilarious - there were two guys who I can only assume to be pantomime idiots dressed up as IRA characters in full black balaclavas, fatigue trousers, black gloves & black boots accompanied by Lady Gaga - you couldn’t make it up. It took me back to a Monty Python sketch. But, the point of the demo? To cause as much disruption as possible by a minority few - which is easy to do and it happened again last night. I recall the whole of the M5 being closed for around five hours, both ways when a guy was threatening to jump of the Avonmouth bridge. All this is going to do is seriously hack off the majority if they cannot go about there normal business, imo the overwhelming majority to force change in this Bill is not there. A good measure of how this inept opposition party are doing post Brexit and hopefully the worst of COVID behind us will be an overwhelming majority next month in the marginal Labour seat of Hartlepool, nothing less.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 31, 2021 19:51:46 GMT
But, the point of the demo? To cause as much disruption as possible by a minority few - which is easy to do and it happened again last night. I recall the whole of the M5 being closed for around five hours, both ways when a guy was threatening to jump of the Avonmouth bridge. All this is going to do is seriously hack off the majority if they cannot go about there normal business, imo the overwhelming majority to force change in this Bill is not there. A good measure of how this inept opposition party are doing post Brexit and hopefully the worst of COVID behind us will be an overwhelming majority next month in the marginal Labour seat of Hartlepool, nothing less.Not sure I'm following..?
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Post by blueridge on Mar 31, 2021 20:00:38 GMT
To cause as much disruption as possible by a minority few - which is easy to do and it happened again last night. I recall the whole of the M5 being closed for around five hours, both ways when a guy was threatening to jump of the Avonmouth bridge. All this is going to do is seriously hack off the majority if they cannot go about there normal business, imo the overwhelming majority to force change in this Bill is not there. A good measure of how this inept opposition party are doing post Brexit and hopefully the worst of COVID behind us will be an overwhelming majority next month in the marginal Labour seat of Hartlepool, nothing less.Not sure I'm following..? A bi election in Hartlepool in May - sorry should of mentioned bi-election.
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Post by oldie on Mar 31, 2021 20:06:34 GMT
But, the point of the demo? To cause as much disruption as possible by a minority few - which is easy to do and it happened again last night. I recall the whole of the M5 being closed for around five hours, both ways when a guy was threatening to jump of the Avonmouth bridge. All this is going to do is seriously hack off the majority if they cannot go about there normal business, imo the overwhelming majority to force change in this Bill is not there. A good measure of how this inept opposition party are doing post Brexit and hopefully the worst of COVID behind us will be an overwhelming majority next month in the marginal Labour seat of Hartlepool, nothing less. No The point of the demo is to highlight the wording in a proposed bill going through Parliament which threatens our right of association and assembly. What the participants are wearing is hardly relevant. Quite frankly that sort of attitude exposes a a deep seated prejudice and an inability to see or indeed acknowledge the bigger picture. I would contend that it is also deeply unpatriotic. Given the efforts put in by our forefathers to win and defend the freedoms we enjoy and are now under threat.
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Post by yattongas on Mar 31, 2021 20:13:49 GMT
But, the point of the demo? To cause as much disruption as possible by a minority few - which is easy to do and it happened again last night. I recall the whole of the M5 being closed for around five hours, both ways when a guy was threatening to jump of the Avonmouth bridge. All this is going to do is seriously hack off the majority if they cannot go about there normal business, imo the overwhelming majority to force change in this Bill is not there. A good measure of how this inept opposition party are doing post Brexit and hopefully the worst of COVID behind us will be an overwhelming majority next month in the marginal Labour seat of Hartlepool, nothing less. How inconvenient. That bloke jumped in the end and died after motorists yelled out he should “get on with it “ amongst other disgusting things . He had an agonising skin disease .
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Post by blueridge on Mar 31, 2021 20:30:32 GMT
To cause as much disruption as possible by a minority few - which is easy to do and it happened again last night. I recall the whole of the M5 being closed for around five hours, both ways when a guy was threatening to jump of the Avonmouth bridge. All this is going to do is seriously hack off the majority if they cannot go about there normal business, imo the overwhelming majority to force change in this Bill is not there. A good measure of how this inept opposition party are doing post Brexit and hopefully the worst of COVID behind us will be an overwhelming majority next month in the marginal Labour seat of Hartlepool, nothing less. No The point of the demo is to highlight the wording in a proposed bill going through Parliament which threatens our right of association and assembly. What the participants are wearing is hardly relevant. Quite frankly that sort of attitude exposes a a deep seated prejudice and an inability to see or indeed acknowledge the bigger picture. I would contend that it is also deeply unpatriotic. Given the efforts put in by our forefathers to win and defend the freedoms we enjoy and are now under threat. So you don’t see someone dressing up like that as being as being just a bit sinister - maybe to some? I can the see bigger picture as well as you, but not the same picture, but I will not adopt your arrogance and talk down to you.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 31, 2021 20:55:40 GMT
To cause as much disruption as possible by a minority few - which is easy to do and it happened again last night. I recall the whole of the M5 being closed for around five hours, both ways when a guy was threatening to jump of the Avonmouth bridge. All this is going to do is seriously hack off the majority if they cannot go about there normal business, imo the overwhelming majority to force change in this Bill is not there. A good measure of how this inept opposition party are doing post Brexit and hopefully the worst of COVID behind us will be an overwhelming majority next month in the marginal Labour seat of Hartlepool, nothing less. How inconvenient. That bloke jumped in the end and died after motorists yelled out he should “get on with it “ amongst other disgusting things . He had an agonising skin disease . I remember that , it was absolutely appalling , poor man .
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Post by oldie on Mar 31, 2021 21:22:19 GMT
No The point of the demo is to highlight the wording in a proposed bill going through Parliament which threatens our right of association and assembly. What the participants are wearing is hardly relevant. Quite frankly that sort of attitude exposes a a deep seated prejudice and an inability to see or indeed acknowledge the bigger picture. I would contend that it is also deeply unpatriotic. Given the efforts put in by our forefathers to win and defend the freedoms we enjoy and are now under threat. So you don’t see someone dressing up like that as being as being just a bit sinister - maybe to some? I can the see bigger picture as well as you, but not the same picture, but I will not adopt your arrogance and talk down to you. Sinister, a couple of people dressed in fatigues at a demo? No, but I will check under my bed later.🤔🤭
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Post by oldgas on Apr 1, 2021 11:25:38 GMT
To cause as much disruption as possible by a minority few - which is easy to do and it happened again last night. I recall the whole of the M5 being closed for around five hours, both ways when a guy was threatening to jump of the Avonmouth bridge. All this is going to do is seriously hack off the majority if they cannot go about there normal business, imo the overwhelming majority to force change in this Bill is not there. A good measure of how this inept opposition party are doing post Brexit and hopefully the worst of COVID behind us will be an overwhelming majority next month in the marginal Labour seat of Hartlepool, nothing less. No The point of the demo is to highlight the wording in a proposed bill going through Parliament which threatens our right of association and assembly. What the participants are wearing is hardly relevant. Quite frankly that sort of attitude exposes a a deep seated prejudice and an inability to see or indeed acknowledge the bigger picture. I would contend that it is also deeply unpatriotic. Given the efforts put in by our forefathers to win and defend the freedoms we enjoy and are now under threat. There were about 300 people protesting. That isn’t very many at all. Their views aren’t those of the overwhelming majority of people. Why should they be allowed to inconvenience and disrupt the lives of the vast majority of people?
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Post by Gassy on Apr 1, 2021 11:39:56 GMT
No The point of the demo is to highlight the wording in a proposed bill going through Parliament which threatens our right of association and assembly. What the participants are wearing is hardly relevant. Quite frankly that sort of attitude exposes a a deep seated prejudice and an inability to see or indeed acknowledge the bigger picture. I would contend that it is also deeply unpatriotic. Given the efforts put in by our forefathers to win and defend the freedoms we enjoy and are now under threat. There were about 300 people protesting. That isn’t very many at all. Their views aren’t those of the overwhelming majority of people. Why should they be allowed to inconvenience and disrupt the lives of the vast majority of people? Firstly, how do you know their views don’t represent the majority of people? Secondly, you’re then suggesting that for any protest to take place and disrupt things, the majority must be in support of the reason they’re protesting. Which is crazy IMO
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Post by oldgas on Apr 1, 2021 13:30:22 GMT
More great virtue planned for Saturday 1pm around the nation. View AttachmentWill you be there?q
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Post by oldgas on Apr 1, 2021 13:37:56 GMT
To cause as much disruption as possible by a minority few - which is easy to do and it happened again last night. I recall the whole of the M5 being closed for around five hours, both ways when a guy was threatening to jump of the Avonmouth bridge. All this is going to do is seriously hack off the majority if they cannot go about there normal business, imo the overwhelming majority to force change in this Bill is not there. A good measure of how this inept opposition party are doing post Brexit and hopefully the worst of COVID behind us will be an overwhelming majority next month in the marginal Labour seat of Hartlepool, nothing less. No The point of the demo is to highlight the wording in a proposed bill going through Parliament which threatens our right of association and assembly. What the participants are wearing is hardly relevant. Quite frankly that sort of attitude exposes a a deep seated prejudice and an inability to see or indeed acknowledge the bigger picture. I would contend that it is also deeply unpatriotic. Given the efforts put in by our forefathers to win and defend the freedoms we enjoy and are now under threat. Does it though? As far as I can tell all the bill seeks to do is ensure proper consultation between protest organisers, the Police, L A etc etc so the protesters can have their say without causing disruption to countless thousands of others who aren’t protesting. Seems eminently reasonable to me, unless, of course, you’re part of an aggressive left-wing anti-democracy hate mob waiting in the wings to hijack the event, and use it to commit the kind of mayhem we’ve seen recently from BLM, Reclaim the Streets, etc etc.
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Post by oldgas on Apr 1, 2021 13:43:34 GMT
There were about 300 people protesting. That isn’t very many at all. Their views aren’t those of the overwhelming majority of people. Why should they be allowed to inconvenience and disrupt the lives of the vast majority of people? Firstly, how do you know their views don’t represent the majority of people? Secondly, you’re then suggesting that for any protest to take place and disrupt things, the majority must be in support of the reason they’re protesting. Which is crazy IMO How do you know they do? Ive got no issue with peaceful protest, it is a cherished freedom denied to probably more than half the worlds population. Take your Chinese Communist utopia for example. The last time they tried demonstrating there they got run over with tanks. However, these demonstrations need to remain under control and should co-operate with the authorities. In that way, the usual left wing rabble who infiltrate these demos, with their stated aim of overthrowing democracy and replacing the government could be controlled. Lets not forget their stated aim is to install a Communist dictatorship which, guess what? Would ban all protests and probably run over anyone who tried it with tanks.
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Post by stuart1974 on Apr 1, 2021 14:14:51 GMT
No The point of the demo is to highlight the wording in a proposed bill going through Parliament which threatens our right of association and assembly. What the participants are wearing is hardly relevant. Quite frankly that sort of attitude exposes a a deep seated prejudice and an inability to see or indeed acknowledge the bigger picture. I would contend that it is also deeply unpatriotic. Given the efforts put in by our forefathers to win and defend the freedoms we enjoy and are now under threat. Does it though? As far as I can tell all the bill seeks to do is ensure proper consultation between protest organisers, the Police, L A etc etc so the protesters can have their say without causing disruption to countless thousands of others who aren’t protesting. Seems eminently reasonable to me, unless, of course, you’re part of an aggressive left-wing anti-democracy hate mob waiting in the wings to hijack the event, and use it to commit the kind of mayhem we’ve seen recently from BLM, Reclaim the Streets, etc etc. This is the list of changes: "How will the bill change those powers? Police chiefs will be able to put more conditions on static protests. They will be able to: Impose a start and finish time Set noise limits Apply these rules to a demonstration by just one person Taken to an extreme, let's say there's an individual holding a protest placard, while blasting out their views on a speaker. If they refuse to follow police directions over how they should conduct their protest, they could be fined up to £2,500. It will also become a crime to fail to follow restrictions the protesters "ought" to have known about, even if they have not received a direct order from an officer. At present, police need to prove protesters knew they had been told to move on, before they can be said to have broken the law. The proposed law includes an offence of "intentionally or recklessly causing public nuisance". This is designed to stop people occupying public spaces, hanging off bridges, gluing themselves to windows, or employing other protest tactics to make themselves both seen and heard. One final measure clarifies that damage to memorials could lead to up to 10 years in prison. This follows the toppling of a statue of slave trader Edward Colston in Bristol."
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