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Post by henry on Mar 25, 2021 23:33:33 GMT
Poked my nose in? Why, am I not allowed to comment on a forum in an open debate? If you wanted a private chat, I suggest you PM people next time. On your 2nd point, are you trying to threaten me or something? š Dear god. I am not a Mod on this forum so no Iām not threatening you, hilarious attempt by the way, but please stop being a drama queen thereās a good person. You have given me a warning? You get more dramatic and petty by the minute! Sad, sad person.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 8:24:31 GMT
Dear god. I am not a Mod on this forum so no Iām not threatening you, hilarious attempt by the way, but please stop being a drama queen thereās a good person. You have given me a warning? You get more dramatic and petty by the minute! Sad, sad person. Henry, people like you are why we have to put up with political correctness, can't you have an argument or opinion without throwing silly insults? You make some good points but ruin it with unnecessary attacks. Like oldgas (but he doesn't make decent points)
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Post by henry on Mar 26, 2021 8:45:05 GMT
You have given me a warning? You get more dramatic and petty by the minute! Sad, sad person. Henry, people like you are why we have to put up with political correctness, can't you have an argument or opinion without throwing silly insults? You make some good points but ruin it with unnecessary attacks. Like oldgas (but he doesn't make decent points) That comment is typical of the politically correct mentality of today. Have you not heard of these phrases which really are totally harmless, unless you want a bit of drama that is? I do have to question peopleās make up if they find me saying that an insult. Of all the wrong going on in the world and people grasp at that light hearted comment to make a scene about! But I can have an argument or opinion without throwing insults but I cannot guarantee it. That is also a light hearted comment by the way. I canāt afford another fifty percent warning for that otherwise Iām done for. On a more serious note, have you seen the price of honeydew melons lately? They are only Ā£1 in Tesco. Get on down there and get one they are good for your sanity.
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Post by francegas on Mar 26, 2021 9:12:38 GMT
I really liked KL and Malaysia in general. Back in 2012 we had a contract with Shell in Brunei which was "dry". Every weekend we used to leg it over the border to a town called Miri, Sarawak, which was the wild west. Ice cold beer in 90 degree heat....by the gallonš¤Ŗ I loved my time in Malaysia - a beautiful country. When my first wife was alive she used to come over for holidays which we used to spend on Pangkor Island off the West Coast near Lumut. ā āPindiā was much more of a challenge - although the PC Hotel where I stayed/lived used to bring beer to my room in a basket covered by a towel - I had to sign a statement stating I was a Christian - happy days!! My fascination and love for the Far East started when I visited Malaysia and Borneo many moons ago. Since then I've been fortunate enough to visit South Korea, stepped foot into North Korea, Japan, Hong Kong,Singapore, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam. Anyway back to topic. Do I believe people have a right to demonstrate? yes to an extent. It's been said on this thread about Police cuts etc and not being in a position to Police demonstrations properly, well if members of the Great British public were able to behave the Police wouldn't have to redirect huge amounts of their resources to these demonstrations through fear of them being generally infiltrated by the far left or far right and resorting to violence. When I was young if a Police officer told you to do something my God you bloody well did it. Today it seems the norm for people to ignore Police instructions and just square up to them. Is it any wonder new measures are being looked at to give Police more powers about how they police demonstrations. Does anyone seriously think the Police have the time to arrest people for being a nuisance? Those here that fully support all these demonstrations was it right that in London people glued themselves to tube trains , was it right that that a man in Bristol was prevented from seeing his dying father in hospital before he passed away. It's also been said on this thread about protesting during the pandemic, which I think should have been banned and was highly irresponsible, that was no evidence of transmission of covid as the demonstration was out doors. Well how the hell did 1000s of people travel to London. Many would have taken public transport, many would have driven down from all parts of the UK and would have needed comfort breaks. Are you seriously telling me not one person who attended the BLM protests had Covid orcontracted Covid before, during, and after their demonstration.
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Post by oldie on Mar 26, 2021 9:54:37 GMT
I loved my time in Malaysia - a beautiful country. When my first wife was alive she used to come over for holidays which we used to spend on Pangkor Island off the West Coast near Lumut. ā āPindiā was much more of a challenge - although the PC Hotel where I stayed/lived used to bring beer to my room in a basket covered by a towel - I had to sign a statement stating I was a Christian - happy days!! My fascination and love for the Far East started when I visited Malaysia and Borneo many moons ago. Since then I've been fortunate enough to visit South Korea, stepped foot into North Korea, Japan, Hong Kong,Singapore, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam. Anyway back to topic. Do I believe people have a right to demonstrate? yes to an extent. It's been said on this thread about Police cuts etc and not being in a position to Police demonstrations properly, well if members of the Great British public were able to behave France The vast majority of the attendees are genuine, there for the topic of the protest. The "infiltration" argument is overblown to justify the reactions of the "outraged of Tonbridge Wells" Thats not to deny a small minority, implacably opposed to the very structure of a free market economy, do not show up. You cannot argue for a ban on that basis. Sure, until I was about 14. Precisely. So why place a law on the Statute Book that mandates the police to do so? Not only that, but as it stands to not also clearly define what a "nuisance" entails, thus leaving the police in the invidious position of defining it in real time on the front line. Its stupid at best, authoritarian at worse. You know this to be true. Drop it and most, if not all, of this goes away. No, I dont, and I think a lot of the organisers of those demos will, have, looked back on that with some regret and would attempt to do things differently, But that does not negate their point. Speculation here France, no evidence. As was pointed out there was no spike after the main demos subsided, in fact the infection rate subsided to below 20/100,000 and pubs were opened up. It was only when the schools and Universities went back, under the chaotic direction of this government, that rates ticked up gain leading to the November "circuit breaker" and then went completely out of control again after Christmas, after the chaotic messaging and direction of....the government. I sense your anger, but I think you should direct it at the government, one whose mixed, incoherent, messaging and policies quite likely led to the deaths of thousands of people. Think about it France, this is the same government that whats introduce a law that mandates the police to arrest someone for being a nuisance. These incompetent buffoons, authoritarian buffoons, must be resisted.
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Post by oldgas on Mar 26, 2021 10:04:58 GMT
My fascination and love for the Far East started when I visited Malaysia and Borneo many moons ago. Since then I've been fortunate enough to visit South Korea, stepped foot into North Korea, Japan, Hong Kong,Singapore, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam. Anyway back to topic. Do I believe people have a right to demonstrate? yes to an extent. It's been said on this thread about Police cuts etc and not being in a position to Police demonstrations properly, well if members of the Great British public were able to behave France The vast majority of the attendees are genuine, there for the topic of the protest. The "infiltration" argument is overblown to justify the reactions of the "outraged of Tonbridge Wells" Thats not to deny a small minority, implacably opposed to the very structure of a free market economy, do not show up. You cannot argue for a ban on that basis. Sure, until I was about 14. Precisely. So why place a law on the Statute Book that mandates the police to do so? Not only that, but as it stands to not also clearly define what a "nuisance" entails, thus leaving the police in the invidious position of defining it in real time on the front line. Its stupid at best, authoritarian at worse. You know this to be true. Drop it and most, if not all, of this goes away. No, I dont, and I think a lot of the organisers of those demos will, have, looked back on that with some regret and would attempt to do things differently, But that does not negate their point. Speculation here France, no evidence. As was pointed out there was no spike after the main demos subsided, in fact the infection rate subsided to below 20/100,000 and pubs were opened up. It was only when the schools and Universities went back, under the chaotic direction of this government, that rates ticked up gain leading to the November "circuit breaker" and then went completely out of control again after Christmas, after the chaotic messaging and direction of....the government. I sense your anger, but I think you should direct it at the government, one whose mixed, incoherent, messaging and policies quite likely led to the deaths of thousands of people. Think about it France, this is the same government that whats introduce a law that mandates the police to arrest someone for being a nuisance. These incompetent buffoons, authoritarian buffoons, must be resisted. Oh to have Comrade Corbyn in charge! Egged on by by his brother Piers there would be no lock-downs, no PPE. Weād probably have no vaccines or immunisation programme. Who knows you might even have beenstruck down yourself but never mind. You could suffer safe in the knowledge your right to protest is enshrined.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 11:04:26 GMT
More peaceful protests planned for today at 4pm.
How many police will be shipped in I wonder, could be a fair few. Do we think they will lie about injuries again or try different media tricks?
Keyboard warriors at the ready. Your time to shine is coming.
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Post by blueridge on Mar 26, 2021 11:09:46 GMT
Question - did anyone on this thread that feels so strongly about the right to protest, even during a pandemic about this particular Bill feel strongly enough to actually attend the protest or are you just supporting it from the comfort zone of your armchairs.
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Post by baggins on Mar 26, 2021 11:15:31 GMT
Question - did anyone on this thread that feels so strongly about the right to protest, even during a pandemic about this particular Bill feel strongly enough to actually attend the protest or are you just giving an opinion from the comfort zone of your armchairs. Don't mind the need for a protest, sometimes it shows up things that need to be addressed. No way should it have happened during a lockdown, no matter what the protest is for. Does it have to be an armchair?
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Post by Gassy on Mar 26, 2021 11:17:01 GMT
Question - did anyone on this thread that feels so strongly about the right to protest, even during a pandemic about this particular Bill feel strongly enough to actually attend the protest or are you just giving an opinion from the comfort zone of your armchairs. Sorry, but what an idiotic and ridiculous leading question that is. It's like me asking you: As you are so angry against the violence, are you actually going to sign up to become a police officer and fight crime, or just give an opinion from behind your keyboard?
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Post by Gassy on Mar 26, 2021 11:20:03 GMT
France The vast majority of the attendees are genuine, there for the topic of the protest. The "infiltration" argument is overblown to justify the reactions of the "outraged of Tonbridge Wells" Thats not to deny a small minority, implacably opposed to the very structure of a free market economy, do not show up. You cannot argue for a ban on that basis. Sure, until I was about 14. Precisely. So why place a law on the Statute Book that mandates the police to do so? Not only that, but as it stands to not also clearly define what a "nuisance" entails, thus leaving the police in the invidious position of defining it in real time on the front line. Its stupid at best, authoritarian at worse. You know this to be true. Drop it and most, if not all, of this goes away. No, I dont, and I think a lot of the organisers of those demos will, have, looked back on that with some regret and would attempt to do things differently, But that does not negate their point. Speculation here France, no evidence. As was pointed out there was no spike after the main demos subsided, in fact the infection rate subsided to below 20/100,000 and pubs were opened up. It was only when the schools and Universities went back, under the chaotic direction of this government, that rates ticked up gain leading to the November "circuit breaker" and then went completely out of control again after Christmas, after the chaotic messaging and direction of....the government. I sense your anger, but I think you should direct it at the government, one whose mixed, incoherent, messaging and policies quite likely led to the deaths of thousands of people. Think about it France, this is the same government that whats introduce a law that mandates the police to arrest someone for being a nuisance. These incompetent buffoons, authoritarian buffoons, must be resisted. Oh to have Comrade Corbyn in charge! Egged on by by his brother Piers there would be no lock-downs, no PPE. Weād probably have no vaccines or immunisation programme. Who knows you might even have beenstruck down yourself but never mind. You could suffer safe in the knowledge your right to protest is enshrined. Oh would you look at that, OldGas some how managed to talk about EU and vaccines again. Looks like the EU are living happily rent free in your head
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Post by henry on Mar 26, 2021 11:20:21 GMT
More peaceful protests planned for today at 4pm. How many police will be shipped in I wonder, could be a fair few. Do we think they will lie about injuries again or try different media tricks? Keyboard warriors at the ready. Your time to shine is coming. It is still illegal so people who break the law shall hopefully reap the consequences. No one needs to shine when all they are saying is the plainly obvious. will you be there Grover?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2021 11:26:57 GMT
Question - did anyone on this thread that feels so strongly about the right to protest, even during a pandemic about this particular Bill feel strongly enough to actually attend the protest or are you just supporting it from the comfort zone of your armchairs. Are you a police officer? Or a snitch?
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Post by blueridge on Mar 26, 2021 11:44:24 GMT
Question - did anyone on this thread that feels so strongly about the right to protest, even during a pandemic about this particular Bill feel strongly enough to actually attend the protest or are you just giving an opinion from the comfort zone of your armchairs. Sorry, but what an idiotic and ridiculous leading question that is. It's like me asking you: As you are so angry against the violence, are you actually going to sign up to become a police officer and fight crime, or just give an opinion from behind your keyboard? You donāt need to say sorry to me - Iāve clearly touched a nerve with you - definitely a leading question thatās why I asked it. Iām too old to work now - but clearly youāre unemployed with the amount of time you spend on this site - Iām sure the police can find you a job somewhere. You state āas you are so angry against the violenceā - absolutely - and youāre not?
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 26, 2021 11:55:12 GMT
Why be so personal ! ? You spend enough time on here yourself !
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Post by blueridge on Mar 26, 2021 11:58:38 GMT
Why be so personal ! ? You spend enough time on here yourself ! Iām retired.
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Post by Gassy on Mar 26, 2021 12:12:50 GMT
Sorry, but what an idiotic and ridiculous leading question that is.Ā It's like me asking you: As you are so angry against the violence, are you actually going to sign up to become a police officer and fight crime, or just give an opinion from behind your keyboard? You donāt need to say sorry to me - Iāve Ā clearly touched a nerve with you - definitely a leading question thatās why I asked it. Iām too old to work now - but clearly youāre unemployed with the amount of time you spend on this site - Iām sure the police can find you a job somewhere. You state āas you are so angry against the violenceā - absolutely - and youāre not?Ā No nerve touched, just pointing out that youāre asking a ridiculous and idiotic question. But sounds like you knew that already. Looks like youāre getting personal yet again, are you going to start abusing posters again because you donāt like being challenged? What a disgusting comment to try and belittle posters about their work during a pandemic. Iām very happily employed, but youāve already belittled OB about his work and now youāre trying to do the same to me. Looks like the old bully is bored and unhappy with his retirement.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Mar 26, 2021 12:14:31 GMT
Enjoy your retirement - I can think of more peaceful ways of spending it ! Utg
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Post by blueridge on Mar 26, 2021 12:16:09 GMT
Enjoy your retirement - I can think of more peaceful ways of spending it ! Utg I agree but not at the moment - thanks š
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Post by blueridge on Mar 26, 2021 12:27:28 GMT
You donāt need to say sorry to me - Iāve clearly touched a nerve with you - definitely a leading question thatās why I asked it. Iām too old to work now - but clearly youāre unemployed with the amount of time you spend on this site - Iām sure the police can find you a job somewhere. You state āas you are so angry against the violenceā - absolutely - and youāre not? No nerve touched, just pointing out that youāre asking a ridiculous and idiotic question. But sounds like you knew that already. Looks like youāre getting personal yet again, are you going to start abusing posters again because you donāt like being challenged? What a disgusting comment to try and belittle posters about their work during a pandemic. Iām very happily employed, but youāve already belittled OB about his work and now youāre trying to do the same to me. Looks like the old bully is bored and unhappy with his retirement. You are so predictable - Henry yesterday me today. Seriously, I will respond to any aggressive response to something Iāve posted as you well know, nothing to do with bullying - read your reply again - āan idiotic post and sugggesting I ought to join the police forceā . So āold bullyā is not ageist and rude - try looking in the mirror you have a reputation - trust me. Feel free to dish out the same treatment as you did to Henry because he dared to stand up to you. btw - I have a fantastic retirement - donāt assume anything.
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