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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 2, 2021 19:10:39 GMT
Not a case of replacing a goal scorer like for like it’s a case of just trying to replace that goal scorer. We didn’t even bother trying with the players we bought in. Sounds negligent? Undoubtedly so. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2021 19:48:35 GMT
Or it was the best BG could sign for the £100K he was given to spend on strikers? I can't imagine BG telling Wael to keep his money as he'd sooner sign cheap strikers? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2021 19:53:26 GMT
I have never heard such a damning condemnation of BRFC as that delivered by Joe Barton today. He could not have done proper due diligence prior to accepting the Manager's position as surely he and any other self respecting Person would have ran a mile from us. I called for Garner to quit Jan 14th 2020 as I could see the damage his presence was inflicting on us. Wael could have intervened and sacked him at any time but sat on his hands believing that his vision via Garner was the way forward. Wael could have intervened as Garner set about signing a squad devoid of Goals but did nothing and when he finally sacked Garner he stood aside as Tisdale couldn't or wouldn't sign a goalscorer and when Barton arrived it was all too late and we await relegation with almost no chance of avoiding it. This last year has cost Wael about £3m and his dithering and blind faith in Garner and Widdrington and his own poor leadership is nothing short of a calamity of epic proportions. Wael has saved us and condemned us at the same time. How can a potential manager do DD on a football club? Interesting that he suggests that corners have been cut to far as I wonder where this leaves Starnes and Widdrington, as if Wael's going to back Barton then how can he also support the other two, as must have overseen the cut backs? |
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Post by Gasshole on Apr 2, 2021 21:05:39 GMT
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 2, 2021 21:22:24 GMT
Or it was the best BG could sign for the £100K he was given to spend on strikers? I can't imagine BG telling Wael to keep his money as he'd sooner sign cheap strikers? Perhaps he should have utilised some of the CB and LB budget then and not blown it all on four LBs and Ehmer. |
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Post by terry on Apr 2, 2021 21:24:49 GMT
All this season I've been desperate for one of our players to show a bit of aggression , just a little bit would be great and yet every team we play has player after player laid on the floor holding his face as though he's been poleaxed with an elbow and winning a free kick . Have i been misjudging Mr Westbrook , instead of looking at his feet which have never tackled or fouled anyone should i concentrate on his elbows . In an age where a long distance camera can show you the hairs up a players nose surely we can sort something that recovers our game from these cheats and liars .
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 2, 2021 21:56:00 GMT
It's a sad day when people on the forum are offering each other out. To be fair, it is the socially responsible thing to do. Fighting inside is almost certainly prohibited, under the COVID restrictions. |
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Post by William Wilson on Apr 2, 2021 22:00:54 GMT
I got a funny feeling today was th turning point, I remember us winning at Ipswich 18 months ago an feeling elated and wondering how far we can go up an from that very moment it all went wrong. Today we visit th same place an come away as losers an rock bottom on form an tbh morale both on th field and in our hearts, let’s hope it’s a great coincidence that this time we start gathering a few points instead of dropping them through some weird twist of fate. I still believe we can survive , an I won’t give up til th final act is made. Good luck to th lads an Joey. No Surrender 👊 As a fellow Bluenoser I echo No Surrender , Jock ! .UTG 💙 And me. Alumni of Rutherglen Academy. FTP! |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Apr 2, 2021 22:11:39 GMT
As a fellow Bluenoser I echo No Surrender , Jock ! .UTG 💙 And me. Alumni of Rutherglen Academy. FTP! 👍👍👍👍👍👍💙 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2021 10:01:21 GMT
JB assumed we were a decently run club - clearly we are not . Is anyone on this forum really surprised ... I’m not.
Starnes is an imposter who talks a good game ... Widdrington relies on ex Coventry City throw aways and throw in Garner and it’s no wonder the playing side is awful. If we are to go forward Wael seriously needs to get rid of Starnes and Teflon Widdrington.
Yesterday ... Tutonda was a shambles - an embarrassment who had no clue what he was doing and it cost us early in the first few minutes. I would politely be saying to him that’s your lot - on your way.
Williams has dropped to our level now and Baldwin never looks comfortable in anything he does.
Martinez and Walker have done ok ... but won’t rip up trees in L1 just yet.
Upson - not good enough for L1.
McCormick - Literally the only decent midfielder yesterday. Put in more effort than three or four others combined.
Hanlan is a joke ... ball bounces off him all the time and he throws himself to the ground. Cant turn with the ball so needs to maybe play deeper and run at the defence.
Ayunga - Works hard - gets some shots away but L2 striker at best at the moment.
Substitutions showed just how bad things are - The ballerina Westbrooke did absolutely as expected - Nothing
Oztumer was a joke - would send him back now. What a disappointment.
Barrett is like a fat fan who has won a ticket to play for your club - Dreadful.
It’s little wonder we can’t compete - the quality is not there in any part of the pitch other than our keeper.
I got shouted down on here when I mentioned the R word about 6/7 games ago but we were as good as down when we lost at home to the other bottom clubs.
Sadly unless there is a huge restructure including the Boardroom frauds little will change next season in L2
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 3, 2021 10:10:15 GMT
There seems to be a lot of talk that Barton is the right man if we go down but as it stands he has the worst managerial record overall and current run we have had in a long time.
Couple that with the fact he only has 2.5years of coaching experience at any level at any club under his belt and has never managed at League 2 I don’t understand why people are so sure he is the answer.
He had an 11th and 6th place finish at Fleetwood with one of the biggest budgets in league one and got moved on as he headed to a mid table finish at best.
What happens if we allow Barton “the great reset” and he revamps the squad as Garner did and then after 11 games isn’t performing as expected? Do we sack him? What happens then.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Apr 3, 2021 10:13:37 GMT
Lionheart.Agree 100%.We are a total shambles on and off the pitch.So many players are simply not up to it.Never seen Barrett play or Liddell but suspect league one they ain't.
We had an MP in Staffordshire who wrote to me on House of Commons headed paper promising to investigate an issue and get back to me.When he came round at the next election canvassing I pointed out that I'd been waiting eight years for his update.
Think I prefer people who do things rather than just make false promises.
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Post by pirate on Apr 3, 2021 10:14:04 GMT
There seems to be a lot of talk that Barton is the right man if we go down but as it stands he has the worst managerial record overall and current run we have had in a long time. Couple that with the fact he only has 2.5years of coaching experience at any level at any club under his belt and has never managed at League 2 I don’t understand why people are so sure he is the answer. He had an 11th and 6th place finish at Fleetwood with one of the biggest budgets in league one and got moved on as he headed to a mid table finish at best. What happens if we allow Barton “the great reset” and he revamps the squad as Garner did and then after 11 games isn’t performing as expected? Do we sack him? What happens then. A 6th place finish, better than any Bristol Rovers manager has achieved in two decades. And when Barton left Fleetwood they were only 3 points off the playoffs. |
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Post by socrates on Apr 3, 2021 10:14:20 GMT
There seems to be a lot of talk that Barton is the right man if we go down but as it stands he has the worst managerial record overall and current run we have had in a long time. Couple that with the fact he only has 2.5years of coaching experience at any level at any club under his belt and has never managed at League 2 I don’t understand why people are so sure he is the answer. He had an 11th and 6th place finish at Fleetwood with one of the biggest budgets in league one and got moved on as he headed to a mid table finish at best. What happens if we allow Barton “the great reset” and he revamps the squad as Garner did and then after 11 games isn’t performing as expected? Do we sack him? What happens then. Thing is having had a 3rd of the season with these players he knows more about their strengths and weakness and what needs improving than a new manager would if we sacked him And brought another manager in the summer. After bringing him in it makes sense to give him a transfer window , if we did it with Garner then we should definitely do it with Barton. |
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 3, 2021 10:18:19 GMT
There seems to be a lot of talk that Barton is the right man if we go down but as it stands he has the worst managerial record overall and current run we have had in a long time. Couple that with the fact he only has 2.5years of coaching experience at any level at any club under his belt and has never managed at League 2 I don’t understand why people are so sure he is the answer. He had an 11th and 6th place finish at Fleetwood with one of the biggest budgets in league one and got moved on as he headed to a mid table finish at best. What happens if we allow Barton “the great reset” and he revamps the squad as Garner did and then after 11 games isn’t performing as expected? Do we sack him? What happens then. Thing is having had a 3rd of the season with these players he knows more about their strengths and weakness and what needs improving than a new manager would if we sacked him And brought another manager in the summer. After bringing him in it makes sense to give him a transfer window , if we did it with Garner then we should definitely do it with Barton. I don’t disagree we let him have the summer but if he does, the board should commit to at least January. Impossible to have a summer revamp and make it all work in 2 months. We have to commit and follow it through. |
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 3, 2021 10:38:42 GMT
There seems to be a lot of talk that Barton is the right man if we go down but as it stands he has the worst managerial record overall and current run we have had in a long time. Couple that with the fact he only has 2.5years of coaching experience at any level at any club under his belt and has never managed at League 2 I don’t understand why people are so sure he is the answer. He had an 11th and 6th place finish at Fleetwood with one of the biggest budgets in league one and got moved on as he headed to a mid table finish at best. What happens if we allow Barton “the great reset” and he revamps the squad as Garner did and then after 11 games isn’t performing as expected? Do we sack him? What happens then. A 6th place finish, better than any Bristol Rovers manager has achieved in two decades. And when Barton left Fleetwood they were only 3 points off the playoffs. Sunderland and Portsmouth sack their managers of not in the automatic promotion spots as the season progresses. It’s all relative to budget and playing staff. Some of Fleetwood top earners were earning 3 times out top earners last season. Oh and we were 8 points off the playoffs when we sacked Garner. |
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Post by pirate on Apr 3, 2021 10:59:04 GMT
A 6th place finish, better than any Bristol Rovers manager has achieved in two decades. And when Barton left Fleetwood they were only 3 points off the playoffs. Sunderland and Portsmouth sack their managers of not in the automatic promotion spots as the season progresses. It’s all relative to budget and playing staff. Some of Fleetwood top earners were earning 3 times out top earners last season. Oh and we were 8 points off the playoffs when we sacked Garner. Garner was sacked because he took a side 4th in the table to 14th and the following season assembled a squad who managed to look pathetic in the majority of his 11 league games, with us having only 3 shots on target in a couple of games, 2 shots on target in five of the games and also just 1 shot on target in one of the games. 8 out of his 11 league games this season where we only managed 3 or less shots on target. Abysmal. |
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Post by carlts2020 on Apr 3, 2021 11:08:11 GMT
Sunderland and Portsmouth sack their managers of not in the automatic promotion spots as the season progresses. It’s all relative to budget and playing staff. Some of Fleetwood top earners were earning 3 times out top earners last season. Oh and we were 8 points off the playoffs when we sacked Garner. Garner was sacked because he took a side 4th in the table to 14th and the following season assembled a squad who managed to look pathetic in the majority of his 11 league games, with us having only 3 shots on target in a couple of games, 2 shots on target in five of the games and also just 1 shot on target in one of the games. 8 out of his 11 league games this season where we only managed 3 or less shots on target. Abysmal. I don’t really understand your point but we were 8 points off the playoffs when Garner was sacked. So with all of your shots on target analysis and shouts of pathetic and miserable etc we had 3 wins and 3 draws out of 11. I’ve never seen the shots on target league standing before, is it similar to the XG league table? The only columns that matters on a league table is the points one. Not number of shots, not how many goals we might have scored if the goalie didn’t save them etc. |
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Post by pirate on Apr 3, 2021 11:10:11 GMT
Garner was sacked because he took a side 4th in the table to 14th and the following season assembled a squad who managed to look pathetic in the majority of his 11 league games, with us having only 3 shots on target in a couple of games, 2 shots on target in five of the games and also just 1 shot on target in one of the games. 8 out of his 11 league games this season where we only managed 3 or less shots on target. Abysmal. I don’t really understand your point but we were 8 points off the playoffs when Garner was sacked. So with all of your shots on target analysis and shouts of pathetic and miserable etc we had 3 wins and 3 draws out of 11. I’ve never seen the shots on target league standing before, is it similar to the XG league table? The only columns that matters on a league table is the points one. Not number of shots, not how many goals we might have scored if the goalie didn’t save them etc. A horrible team to watch who barely managed a shot on target. Good riddance. |
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Post by surreygas4 on Apr 3, 2021 11:10:21 GMT
Or, if you look at it another way, Garner was just 3 points off relegation when he was finally relieved of his duties.
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