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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2021 20:08:20 GMT
I didn't want him here at our club in the first place for obvious non footballing reasons. On the pitch I've seen nothing that has made me change my mind and as far as I can see he's taken us backwards. His constant complaining and whining in the press is getting boring; he's really doing nothing to endear himself to us doubters. HOWEVER I don't actively want him sacked because I'm fed up of the upheaval and we need some stability, albeit I wouldn't be upset if he was to leave. Anyone who wants him to stay for footballing reasons is basing that on blind faith. What else can he do but whine when he has to manage a bunch of clowns and watch games refereed by another clown? As he suggests in his post match interview he's never seen a team play like we did in the first 10 mins today, I think we can all agree with those comments.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 20:09:14 GMT
Didn’t say he broke any rules,but IMO he oversteps the mark one rule for mods and one rule for the rest of us.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 20:12:02 GMT
So would’ve you sacked DC when he took us to the conference? That's a call made with hindsight. Given that he was already here and worked under Ward who hung around for a bit I guess it made sense. This is not the situation since Coughlan walked out I didn’t ask you that,I asked if you would’ve sacked DC ? Yes or no ?
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Post by onedaygas83 on Apr 2, 2021 20:13:03 GMT
Right then!!!! I've had many threads locked 🔒 down when I've created one so come on the MoDs shut this clown down please!!!! Can't see you doing it so don't ever pick on my posts again you bunch of slags! Not really sure what you mean. Can you try to explain it a bit better, please. I mean mods shut my posts down because it was so say too offensive to previous managers/owner but its ok for this thread to run on 8 pages+ about asking JB a manager that has been royally f**ked by his predecessors to be now called out on a thread that says (BARTON OUT). Dam melts
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Post by oldie on Apr 2, 2021 20:13:30 GMT
That's a call made with hindsight. Given that he was already here and worked under Ward who hung around for a bit I guess it made sense. This is not the situation since Coughlan walked out I didn’t ask you that,I asked if you would’ve sacked DC ? And I tried to explain why it's not the same situation off the pitch.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 20:15:25 GMT
I didn’t ask you that,I asked if you would’ve sacked DC ? And I tried to explain why it's not the same situation off the pitch. Are you in politics? Simple answer that’s all yes or no
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2021 20:17:05 GMT
7 (seven) points from a possible 33 (thirty three)...I suggest anyone who posts on this forum would do at least as well and I’d be surprised if the majority wouldn’t do better. Sometimes you just have to accept if it has a tail and it barks , it’s a dog. Time to cut our loses and I expect JB to be relieved of his responsibilities before we play another game. Not sure any of us would make Hanlan and Ayunga score or our defenders actually defend for the full 90 mins? Given we've now had 4 managers fail, Widdrington's match at Gillingham was just as bad as the rest, why would a 5th manager do any better?
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Post by oldie on Apr 2, 2021 20:18:07 GMT
And I tried to explain why it's not the same situation off the pitch. Are you in politics? Simple answer that’s all yes or no Given the different situations, as I have tried to explain, your question has no basis, other than as a simplistic analogy.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2021 20:18:26 GMT
No manager can magically turn poor players into good players overnight and many of our current squad will probably never be good enough. Add to that the lengthening list of injurues to key players - Kilgour, Ehmer, Harries, Rodman, Grant, Nicholson - and some poor refereeing decisions and it's little wonder we're struggling. Despite all that we've been dominant or competitive in every game since Barton took charge. Luck has definitely not been on our side. Many fans wanted Paul Cook but his record since taking over a decent Ipswich side is not really any better. Any talk of getting rid of Barton before at least 15 matches into next season is far too premature in my opinion. Cook has won 2 drawn 2 and lost 3...that’s a much better record. Cook has 1.14 ppg versus JB 0.63 ppg I assume that includes today's easy 3pts against Garner's fantastic squad of players?
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Post by onedaygas83 on Apr 2, 2021 20:19:58 GMT
Get rid of the cancer thats been in the backroom staff for what is now our 5th manager under wael! Maher, Widdrington and the other waste of space i can't remember in the coaching set up because he's of no importance like the 2 previously mentioned! Wael you have no clue so start binning the dead wood or f**k of as well because you have know clue on running a football club!
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2021 20:27:56 GMT
But equally we don’t have any evidence that he wouldn’t recruit well, work well with Widdrington or have the ability to coach a Rovers side of his making adequately. That’s why I’d just want the summer to see, I argued the same with Garner, and even Tisdale, I think we were a bit hasty in sacking him. I don’t like Barton, but I still believe in giving managers a fair crack of the whip. Tend to agree with you. Did we give Tisdale a fair crack of the whip? If so then we already have with Barton. Something is wrong that perhaps runs much deeper. Clarke effectively got himself sacked, Coughlan walked out, Garner was given months, then a major recruitment window, then sacked about ten weeks later, similarly Tisdale and now we have another manager producing even worse results. Really? So what logic is there calling for the manager's head who gives the impression that he wants to change the status quo? Would you sooner he was sacked and we appointed another yes man so the "cancer" could continue to fester at the club?
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Apr 2, 2021 20:35:36 GMT
WYHHB? Broom that is, but whilst we’re at it Jesus too given the time of year. Either way, we’re badly in need of a saviour!
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Post by oldie on Apr 2, 2021 20:39:40 GMT
Tend to agree with you. Did we give Tisdale a fair crack of the whip? If so then we already have with Barton. Something is wrong that perhaps runs much deeper. Clarke effectively got himself sacked, Coughlan walked out, Garner was given months, then a major recruitment window, then sacked about ten weeks later, similarly Tisdale and now we have another manager producing even worse results. Really? So what logic is there calling for the manager's head who gives the impression that he wants to change the status quo? Would you sooner he was sacked and we appointed another yes man so the "cancer" could continue to fester at the club? If it was mine? Accept that we are relegated, rid the board of the current CEO and DoF, employ a respected football man to identify and recruit a new manager to deliver a sustainable future for the club on the pitch, including coaches and head of recruitment. Assess the current spending and losses (disregarding Covid, as we were bleeding to death pre covid) and slash costs accordingly. Raise ticket prices. Communicate this to the fans without resorting to gas lighting.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 2, 2021 20:42:25 GMT
well said, these people asking for him to be sacked are incredible, he will get us out of this mess, not this season next, he isn't Paul Daniels There appears to be a lack of magicians at The Mem this season. 1 person has made our L1 status disappear.
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 2, 2021 20:48:16 GMT
For the record, we are members and posters first and mods second. Being a mod doesn’t mean you have no opinion on any subject, or can’t express that opinion, it just means we are here to police the dick element to the forum, which thankfully is getting smaller by the week. If RD has an opinion that JB should be sacked then that’s his prerogative and he’s also entitled to air it when he wants in the same way you are allowed to have your opinion and state your differences. For the record anyone’s opinion is fine but RD oversteps the mark concerning JB And your opinion on Paul Tisdale didn’t?
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Post by ChiefStateGAS on Apr 2, 2021 20:52:32 GMT
Out of interest have any stattos got Barton’s record vs the previous 2 to share? Including cup games, here are the stats: Barton: Total 11 - W 2. D 1. L 8 Tisdale: Total 19 - W 5. D 3. L 11 Garner OVERALL: Total 33 - W 6. D 10. L 17 (Garner 19/20: Total 18 - W 2. D 5. L 11. / Garner 20/21: Total 15 - W 4. D 5. L 6) But just going by the league games, here are their points per game ratio: Garner 1.18 points per league game Tisdale 1.25 points per league game Barton 1.57 points per league game
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Post by rememberhalifax on Apr 2, 2021 20:56:14 GMT
13 p0ints from last 7 games, survival and the Mem open for distribution of humble pie to hundreds of overjoyed fans! kindly donated by JB.!
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Post by stevek192 on Apr 2, 2021 20:58:02 GMT
The fact is with some of these players no Manager will be able to succeed. Kilgour, Baldwin, Ehmer all have mistakes in them and our attackers don't have goals in them.Under Barton we have been the better side in most games but can neither defend for 90 minutes or score goals- a recipe for disaster.Many on here were suggesting playing Tutonda at left back but he was absolutely awful as was Baldwin early on. Overall we were the better side again but got nothing out of the game. I really can't see us getting anywhere near the four wins we need.There is no point now in sacking JB as he had no opportunity to bring anybody in and it is clear that is what is required to change the fortunes.Monday really is the last chance saloon Win and get a result at Northampton and we have a chance. Lose and its curtains.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 2, 2021 21:00:38 GMT
Just to let all the people who want Barton in, there's a thread for you open in the forum. You don't have to use this one.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 2, 2021 21:02:49 GMT
Just to let all the people who want Barton in, there's a thread for you open in the forum. You don't have to use this one. What about if we're not sure if we want him in or out 😛
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