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Post by gaschat on Apr 2, 2021 21:03:13 GMT
7 (seven) points from a possible 33 (thirty three)...I suggest anyone who posts on this forum would do at least as well and I’d be surprised if the majority wouldn’t do better. Sometimes you just have to accept if it has a tail and it barks , it’s a dog. Time to cut our loses and I expect JB to be relieved of his responsibilities before we play another game. Not sure any of us would make Hanlan and Ayunga score or our defenders actually defend for the full 90 mins? Given we've now had 4 managers fail, Widdrington's match at Gillingham was just as bad as the rest, why would a 5th manager do any better? It’s a great point and we are talking about consistent poor performance...however, as St Joeys poor performance is miles worse than Garners, Tisdales and Widdringtons poor performance with the same group of players, someone else might get us back up to our previous level of poor performance and save us from Div2. ( apologies for saying poor performance so often but there is no other way of putting it on a family forum)
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 2, 2021 21:03:44 GMT
Just to let all the people who want Barton in, there's a thread for you open in the forum. You don't have to use this one. What about if we're not sure if we want him in or out 😛 New thread? That's a joke, please don't.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 2, 2021 21:04:18 GMT
Just to let all the people who want Barton in, there's a thread for you open in the forum. You don't have to use this one. I'm using this one for all Barton in posts and the other for Barton out. Nobody puts Hugo in the corner.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 2, 2021 21:04:45 GMT
We need to stop sacking managers and accept that the summer recruitment has left us in this predicament. let’s give Joey ten games at least into next season and see how he gets on. I don’t get all this 10 game nonsense He’s signed a 2 and half year contract, if we are serious about stability and progress we simply cannot afford to chop every 10 bloody games! My bigger fear is Barton turning away if a better offer nearer to home comes up. Listen carefully to his interview, again specifically slating the club and the way it’s been run. He’s right of course, but in my mind he’s distancing himself from this mess so he can move on if necessary Hope I’m wrong as the thought of yet another manager coming in to an unknown squad could spell disaster.I think it’s a disaster already. As g and e said, we’ve got to stop sacking managers and let this one manage. If we go down then we have to take it but the answer is not to get rid of another manager whatever our frustrations are. Allow this one, if he’s still with us and not having a holiday with HM, to manage us. Despite the awful results and losses, we have been playing well in patches and have looked far more likely to get a result than we did under the others. What JB hasn’t been able to do is stop defenders from making stupid mistakes and overcome the fact that our strikers can’t score. Those players won’t be with us next season if JB is, IMO. I almost feel silly saying this after a run of defeats but our performances are far better. And I’ve seen all but 2/3 games this season. UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2021 21:08:09 GMT
The fact is with some of these players no Manager will be able to succeed. Kilgour, Baldwin, Ehmer all have mistakes in them and our attackers don't have goals in them.Under Barton we have been the better side in most games but can neither defend for 90 minutes or score goals- a recipe for disaster.Many on here were suggesting playing Tutonda at left back but he was absolutely awful as was Baldwin early on. Overall we were the better side again but got nothing out of the game. I really can't see us getting anywhere near the four wins we need.There is no point now in sacking JB as he had no opportunity to bring anybody in and it is clear that is what is required to change the fortunes.Monday really is the last chance saloon Win and get a result at Northampton and we have a chance. Lose and its curtains. For some bizarre reason Tutonda started at LCB with Leahy at LWB, or that's how it looked for the first two goals, unless Tutonda was just confused where he was supposed to be playing. I can't understand how Tutonda has gone from looking like a player heading for the Championship to one looking now looking like he should be heading back to the National League.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 2, 2021 21:11:53 GMT
Not sure any of us would make Hanlan and Ayunga score or our defenders actually defend for the full 90 mins? Given we've now had 4 managers fail, Widdrington's match at Gillingham was just as bad as the rest, why would a 5th manager do any better? It’s a great point and we are talking about consistent poor performance...however, as St Joeys poor performance is miles worse than Garners, Tisdales and Widdringtons poor performance with the same group of players, someone else might get us back up to our previous level of poor performance and save us from Div2. ( apologies for saying poor performance so often but there is no other way of putting it on a family forum) It's not the same group though as Ehmer, Grant, Nicholson and Rodman are all missing and Oztumer seems to have thrown in the towel. Meaning JB has to start with the likes of Walker and Martinez in the side, although to be fair to them they aren't letting him down. Plus Hanlan seems to have now turned into Nichols MK2.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 21:15:18 GMT
For the record anyone’s opinion is fine but RD oversteps the mark concerning JB And your opinion on Paul Tisdale didn’t? It wasn’t a barrage of opinions or vendetta like RD no we’re near,but he’s a mod and untouchable.
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Post by gaschat on Apr 2, 2021 21:16:27 GMT
It’s a great point and we are talking about consistent poor performance...however, as St Joeys poor performance is miles worse than Garners, Tisdales and Widdringtons poor performance with the same group of players, someone else might get us back up to our previous level of poor performance and save us from Div2. ( apologies for saying poor performance so often but there is no other way of putting it on a family forum) It's not the same group though as Ehmer, Grant, Nicholson and Rodman are all missing and Oztumer seems to have thrown in the towel. Meaning JB has to start with the likes of Walker and Martinez in the side, although to be fair to them they aren't letting him down. Plus Hanlan seems to have now turned into Nichols MK2. Another good point and I’m not sure if Garner and Tisdale always had everyone fit and available but there is no getting away from this season Garner almost getting twice the points per game as Barton.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 21:18:07 GMT
Just to let all the people who want Barton in, there's a thread for you open in the forum. You don't have to use this one. What about if we're not sure if we want him in or out 😛 Then vote him in on the Barton in thread and out on the out thread 😂 that makes you not sure 🤔
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 2, 2021 21:28:33 GMT
What about if we're not sure if we want him in or out 😛 New thread? That's a joke, please don't. 😂 OK another question.. Why is the Barton out thread in capitals but the Barton In thread is not?
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Apr 2, 2021 21:30:10 GMT
New thread? That's a joke, please don't. 😂 OK another question.. Why is the Barton out thread in capitals but the Barton In thread is not? Personal choice of the thread starters.
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Post by Blackbeard on Apr 2, 2021 21:31:33 GMT
In Barton we trust
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Post by Somersetgas on Apr 2, 2021 21:34:27 GMT
And your opinion on Paul Tisdale didn’t? It wasn’t a barrage of opinions or vendetta like RD no we’re near,but he’s a mod and untouchable. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, RD does a good job that you don’t see.
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 2, 2021 21:35:53 GMT
For the record, we are members and posters first and mods second. Being a mod doesn’t mean you have no opinion on any subject, or can’t express that opinion, it just means we are here to police the dick element to the forum, which thankfully is getting smaller by the week. If RD has an opinion that JB should be sacked then that’s his prerogative and he’s also entitled to air it when he wants in the same way you are allowed to have your opinion and state your differences. For the record anyone’s opinion is fine but RD oversteps the mark concerning JB In what way?
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Post by oldie on Apr 2, 2021 21:38:32 GMT
I don’t get all this 10 game nonsense He’s signed a 2 and half year contract, if we are serious about stability and progress we simply cannot afford to chop every 10 bloody games! My bigger fear is Barton turning away if a better offer nearer to home comes up. Listen carefully to his interview, again specifically slating the club and the way it’s been run. He’s right of course, but in my mind he’s distancing himself from this mess so he can move on if necessary Hope I’m wrong as the thought of yet another manager coming in to an unknown squad could spell disaster.I think it’s a disaster already. As g and e said, we’ve got to stop sacking managers and let this one manage. If we go down then we have to take it but the answer is not to get rid of another manager whatever our frustrations are. Allow this one, if he’s still with us and not having a holiday with HM, to manage us. Despite the awful results and losses, we have been playing well in patches and have looked far more likely to get a result than we did under the others. What JB hasn’t been able to do is stop defenders from making stupid mistakes and overcome the fact that our strikers can’t score. Those players won’t be with us next season if JB is, IMO. I almost feel silly saying this after a run of defeats but our performances are far better. And I’ve seen all but 2/3 games this season. UTG! "Despite the awful results and losses, we have been playing well in patches and have looked far more likely to get a result than we did under the others." But sadly none of that equals points and we have accumulated less than under the same equivalent spells of the other two.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Apr 2, 2021 21:47:03 GMT
😂 OK another question.. Why is the Barton out thread in capitals but the Barton In thread is not? Personal choice of the thread starters. One is very melodramatic you mean? 😉
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Post by miamigas on Apr 2, 2021 21:47:14 GMT
"I was on a run this morning and I got up to the Clifton Suspension Bridge and you can't run across it so I had to stop my tracker and walk across,"
"As I was walking across I had a look at the city and thought 'wow', this is our city and it is ours to take over.
"Coming across the bridge, I was thinking 'wouldn't it be wonderful if we got this place absolutely bouncing?'
"It's got the infrastructure to go as far as it wants to go. I've played for Premier League clubs that have sat in those top tiers for a long time but they don't have what we've got in Bristol, it's a special place.
"The people have been fantastic and all we want to do is get this stadium full and get them loving the football we're playing."
Joey Barton 2021
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2021 21:50:43 GMT
"I was on a run this morning and I got up to the Clifton Suspension Bridge and you can't run across it so I had to stop my tracker and walk across," "As I was walking across I had a look at the city and thought 'wow', this is our city and it is ours to take over. "Coming across the bridge, I was thinking 'wouldn't it be wonderful if we got this place absolutely bouncing?' "It's got the infrastructure to go as far as it wants to go. I've played for Premier League clubs that have sat in those top tiers for a long time but they don't have what we've got in Bristol, it's a special place. "The people have been fantastic and all we want to do is get this stadium full and get them loving the football we're playing." Joey Barton 2021 It's called Grooming.
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Post by oldie on Apr 2, 2021 21:51:40 GMT
"I was on a run this morning and I got up to the Clifton Suspension Bridge and you can't run across it so I had to stop my tracker and walk across," "As I was walking across I had a look at the city and thought 'wow', this is our city and it is ours to take over. "Coming across the bridge, I was thinking 'wouldn't it be wonderful if we got this place absolutely bouncing?' "It's got the infrastructure to go as far as it wants to go. I've played for Premier League clubs that have sat in those top tiers for a long time but they don't have what we've got in Bristol, it's a special place. "The people have been fantastic and all we want to do is get this stadium full and get them loving the football we're playing." Joey Barton 2021 Deluded.
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Post by oldie on Apr 2, 2021 21:52:21 GMT
"I was on a run this morning and I got up to the Clifton Suspension Bridge and you can't run across it so I had to stop my tracker and walk across," "As I was walking across I had a look at the city and thought 'wow', this is our city and it is ours to take over. "Coming across the bridge, I was thinking 'wouldn't it be wonderful if we got this place absolutely bouncing?' "It's got the infrastructure to go as far as it wants to go. I've played for Premier League clubs that have sat in those top tiers for a long time but they don't have what we've got in Bristol, it's a special place. "The people have been fantastic and all we want to do is get this stadium full and get them loving the football we're playing." Joey Barton 2021 It's called Grooming. Or Gas Lighting
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