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Post by alanrg on Apr 14, 2021 9:01:06 GMT
Good piece by Sam Frost in Bristol Post this morning saying we are getting what we deserve could not agree more with him
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Apr 14, 2021 9:09:46 GMT
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Post by horfield on Apr 14, 2021 9:13:58 GMT
Sums it all up, even he feels conned by all the crap that has been served up on the field and has been dished out by the board.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 14, 2021 9:16:24 GMT
Sums it all up, even he feels conned by all the crap that has been served up on the field and has been dished out by the board. Good thing you have always been fully behind Wael.
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Post by LJG on Apr 14, 2021 9:21:36 GMT
Never understand why people hold this Sam Frost guy up as such a bastion of gospel truth.
Most of what he says is supposition and the stuff he can find out for certain (the level of debt for example by simply looking at the accounts) he gets completely wrong.
His stuff is a bit lazy in my opinion.
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Post by alanrg on Apr 14, 2021 9:26:46 GMT
He is spot on with this report most gasheads would agree with him total incompetence from top to bottom
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 14, 2021 9:28:17 GMT
Most of us have been saying this since September.
It's hardly groundbreaking stuff is it?
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Post by oldmarket65 on Apr 14, 2021 9:29:37 GMT
Never understand why people hold this Sam Frost guy up as such a bastion of gospel truth. Most of what he says is supposition and the stuff he can find out for certain (the level of debt for example by simply looking at the accounts) he gets completely wrong. His stuff is a bit lazy in my opinion. He said what we been all saying we need a striker in January. The club failed and it could put us back 5 years. Surely you want some reflection how a club tipped to do well end up in basement division.
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Post by LJG on Apr 14, 2021 9:32:50 GMT
Never understand why people hold this Sam Frost guy up as such a bastion of gospel truth. Most of what he says is supposition and the stuff he can find out for certain (the level of debt for example by simply looking at the accounts) he gets completely wrong. His stuff is a bit lazy in my opinion. He said what we been all saying we need a striker in January. The club failed and it could put us back 5 years. Surely you want some reflection how a club tipped to do well end up in basement division. That's sort of my point. He's saying what we're all saying. It's lazy repetition, there's no insight. If I want to think all the things I already think I can just think them, I don't have to read the Evening Post as a reminder.
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Post by bluegas on Apr 14, 2021 9:41:45 GMT
Never understand why people hold this Sam Frost guy up as such a bastion of gospel truth. Most of what he says is supposition and the stuff he can find out for certain (the level of debt for example by simply looking at the accounts) he gets completely wrong. His stuff is a bit lazy in my opinion. He said what we been all saying we need a striker in January. The club failed and it could put us back 5 years. Surely you want some reflection how a club tipped to do well end up in basement division. Of course he's saying what we've all been saying - he gets it from GasChat and Gas Guzzler. That's how journalism works these days - numerous underpaid interns scan social media and translate what they find into "news".
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on Apr 14, 2021 9:58:20 GMT
Or hes a member of this forum?
I'm calling you out "Jock"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 10:05:08 GMT
Certainly some significant change needed in the summer. I think the current squad might even struggle in league 2 given our performance and results against other bottom third clubs this season.
TW's position will certainly be up for discussion if Joey has a say as his mate has moved in already I read. Guess a couple of coaches will be moved on or redeployed.
Big question is who has the skills and abilities to lead the summer re-think? If Starnes and TW lead the review, I'm not hopeful they will blame themselves and stand down.
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Post by socrates on Apr 14, 2021 10:46:00 GMT
Most of us have been saying this since September. It's hardly groundbreaking stuff is it? No it’s not but it doesn’t need to be groundbreaking it’s just an accurate report of our season so far. I can’t argue with any of it. There is one thing I’d add and that’s that despite having 3 different managers we’ve not changed formations tactics or personnel much between the 3. Tutonda has pace and skill why hasn’t he been tried as a winger ? Hanlan is a winger why hasn’t he been tried as a winger. Daley has done little wrong when he’s played and has pace and a poacher instinct why hasn’t he played more? 3 different managers but other than Tisdales and Barton’s tempo generally being quicker it’s all been very samey.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 11:48:12 GMT
Its a damning read and in the public eye ... I take my hat off to him.
We have said it on here in our own little bubble ... what he says is not wrong at all.
Remember the amazing day we won promotion ... " There has been a Goal at the Memorial Stadium" - Neither Starnes nor Widdrington had anything to do with it, yet a few years later these total incompetents have overseen all of this being undone and cast to the bowels of memory only.
Wael must now truly grow a pair and make a tough call ..... Both should be fired as soon as possible they have totally let down Wael and the fans with their arrogance and bullshit. If both remain i fear we could go through L2 quicker than a huge dose of constipation relief tablets.
This summer must see a massive player clear out - even maybe buy up a few contracts and get people gone - Sorry Wael I am spending your money but to balance that, your nicey nicey way too close relationship with Bungle and Zippy has caused this position.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Apr 14, 2021 11:57:01 GMT
Sums it all up, even he feels conned by all the crap that has been served up on the field and has been dished out by the board. Good thing you have always been fully behind Wael. Let’s face the fact that it was WAQ’s vision that started this. If people keep denying this then there really is no point debating. He was the one who decided on pretty football and bringing in a bloke who had never managed and tore up a fairly solid L1 team I’m afraid to say the buck stops with him but I know the majority will not accept this
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 14, 2021 12:07:18 GMT
He said what we been all saying we need a striker in January. The club failed and it could put us back 5 years. Surely you want some reflection how a club tipped to do well end up in basement division. That's sort of my point. He's saying what we're all saying. It's lazy repetition, there's no insight. If I want to think all the things I already think I can just think them, I don't have to read the Evening Post as a reminder. You’re right LJG. But I guess the reason, football wise, why we are where we are is so obvious and has been for the whole season. Not only does the report just state the obvious and there is, as you say, no great insight either but either does the situation call for it. Frost doesn’t give any insight because it’s been so obvious and it wasn’t rectified at the end of the first window, nor the January window so the inevitable happens. What a total mess! UTG!
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Post by Kipper on Apr 14, 2021 12:21:01 GMT
If the club is relegated to dreaded Division2, what decent striker will want to join
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Post by Kipper on Apr 14, 2021 12:27:28 GMT
If the club is relegated to dreaded Division2, what decent striker will want to join Rovers? Oh, there is always the non-league gamble. What a mess!
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Post by bluegas on Apr 14, 2021 12:33:36 GMT
Good thing you have always been fully behind Wael. Let’s face the fact that it was WAQ’s vision that started this. If people keep denying this then there really is no point debating. He was the one who decided on pretty football and bringing in a bloke who had never managed and tore up a fairly solid L1 team I’m afraid to say the buck stops with him but I know the majority will not accept this I accept it KP. Seems a nice guy with genuine intentions for the club. But he is ultimately responsible.
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Post by lpgas1 on Apr 14, 2021 12:38:59 GMT
Let’s face the fact that it was WAQ’s vision that started this. If people keep denying this then there really is no point debating. He was the one who decided on pretty football and bringing in a bloke who had never managed and tore up a fairly solid L1 team I’m afraid to say the buck stops with him but I know the majority will not accept this I accept it KP. Seems a nice guy with genuine intentions for the club. But he is ultimately responsible. He is naieve in thinking you can play pretty football in the lower divisions. He is also naieve in thinking Starnes and Widdrington are good at their jobs.
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