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Post by corfugas on May 13, 2021 17:34:16 GMT
I think us and Swindon are similar size but our owner has more ambition so would say we edge Swindon on that. Judging a club's success on their club size is dangerous though and is only setting us up for failure. Agree on the club size doesn’t guarantee success, but I would argue if we can add a little experience to our young side, we’d have a very good team with enough quality to be confident of promotion. If we can find an experienced head next to Kilgour, another experienced CM to hold the shape and allow for Westbrooke to be more creative and a forward who can hold the ball up well up top who can bring Hanlon and daly into the attack, basically improving the spine of the team, then I don’t see why we shouldn’t aim for promotion. Imo Nicholson, hanlon and westbrooke can do some serious damage in league 2 next season. you then add the stature of the club, other than Bradford, us and Swindon (if they’re doing well), how many other clubs will travel in numbers like the rovers and have a decent average attendance which will encourage and get behind the team. With Barton, the training ground, the support and backing of Wael, the players and the quality of opposition we’re up against, I think top 3 isn’t as so naive, but a level of optimism which I think we shouldn’t play down just because it could come to bite us. Westbrooke will hate league 2. He'll be pushed around and ankle tapped constantly.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 13, 2021 18:04:22 GMT
Agree on the club size doesn’t guarantee success, but I would argue if we can add a little experience to our young side, we’d have a very good team with enough quality to be confident of promotion. If we can find an experienced head next to Kilgour, another experienced CM to hold the shape and allow for Westbrooke to be more creative and a forward who can hold the ball up well up top who can bring Hanlon and daly into the attack, basically improving the spine of the team, then I don’t see why we shouldn’t aim for promotion. Imo Nicholson, hanlon and westbrooke can do some serious damage in league 2 next season. you then add the stature of the club, other than Bradford, us and Swindon (if they’re doing well), how many other clubs will travel in numbers like the rovers and have a decent average attendance which will encourage and get behind the team. With Barton, the training ground, the support and backing of Wael, the players and the quality of opposition we’re up against, I think top 3 isn’t as so naive, but a level of optimism which I think we shouldn’t play down just because it could come to bite us. Westbrooke will hate league 2. He'll be pushed around and ankle tapped constantly. Plus we've no idea how long Nicholson will take to recover/whether he'll make a full recovery and Hanlan still has to put the ball in the net in L2. I'm not really sure how the training ground is going to make us a better team next season, it hardly seemed to help us this season.
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Post by bluebiro on May 13, 2021 18:23:54 GMT
Agree on the club size doesn’t guarantee success, but I would argue if we can add a little experience to our young side, we’d have a very good team with enough quality to be confident of promotion. If we can find an experienced head next to Kilgour, another experienced CM to hold the shape and allow for Westbrooke to be more creative and a forward who can hold the ball up well up top who can bring Hanlon and daly into the attack, basically improving the spine of the team, then I don’t see why we shouldn’t aim for promotion. Imo Nicholson, hanlon and westbrooke can do some serious damage in league 2 next season. you then add the stature of the club, other than Bradford, us and Swindon (if they’re doing well), how many other clubs will travel in numbers like the rovers and have a decent average attendance which will encourage and get behind the team. With Barton, the training ground, the support and backing of Wael, the players and the quality of opposition we’re up against, I think top 3 isn’t as so naive, but a level of optimism which I think we shouldn’t play down just because it could come to bite us. Westbrooke will hate league 2. He'll be pushed around and ankle tapped constantly. you can see the opposition now quaking at his free kicks and corners. Let's hope there is a club foolish enough to take home on
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Post by Feeling The Blues on May 13, 2021 18:49:17 GMT
Agree on the club size doesn’t guarantee success, but I would argue if we can add a little experience to our young side, we’d have a very good team with enough quality to be confident of promotion. If we can find an experienced head next to Kilgour, another experienced CM to hold the shape and allow for Westbrooke to be more creative and a forward who can hold the ball up well up top who can bring Hanlon and daly into the attack, basically improving the spine of the team, then I don’t see why we shouldn’t aim for promotion. Imo Nicholson, hanlon and westbrooke can do some serious damage in league 2 next season. you then add the stature of the club, other than Bradford, us and Swindon (if they’re doing well), how many other clubs will travel in numbers like the rovers and have a decent average attendance which will encourage and get behind the team. With Barton, the training ground, the support and backing of Wael, the players and the quality of opposition we’re up against, I think top 3 isn’t as so naive, but a level of optimism which I think we shouldn’t play down just because it could come to bite us. Westbrooke will hate league 2. He'll be pushed around and ankle tapped constantly. Well he was at Cov when they were down at our new level. So he must have done ok to earn his dream move to Waels Wanderers!
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Post by wilmslowgas on May 13, 2021 19:12:29 GMT
Westbrooke will thrive in a successful team. Put a load of good players around him relative to the quality of the opposition and he will deliver. He will do well in L2 if Barton gets the right players alongside him. If we are looking to build a battling team who will bully the opposition there will be no place for Westbrooke.
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Post by Feeling The Blues on May 13, 2021 19:21:09 GMT
Westbrooke will thrive in a successful team. Put a load of good players around him relative to the quality of the opposition and he will deliver. He will do well in L2 if Barton gets the right players alongside him. If we are looking to build a battling team who will bully the opposition there will be no place for Westbrooke. That’s not necessarily true. As long as there are plenty of battlers in the team who will look out for everyone especially those whose strength is more technical than battling the technical players can thrive. Most successful teams at our level have a great blend of both.
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Post by Gaswood on May 13, 2021 19:53:37 GMT
Westbrooke will thrive in a successful team. Put a load of good players around him relative to the quality of the opposition and he will deliver. He will do well in L2 if Barton gets the right players alongside him. If we are looking to build a battling team who will bully the opposition there will be no place for Westbrooke. I’d agree with this. Also, if the Pitman rumour is true then whilst he is slow etc, his positional sense could work very well with Westbrooke and be a good mentor for Jonah and Hanlan regarding movement etc.
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Post by lpgas1 on May 14, 2021 10:58:35 GMT
Westbrooke will thrive in a successful team. Put a load of good players around him relative to the quality of the opposition and he will deliver. He will do well in L2 if Barton gets the right players alongside him. If we are looking to build a battling team who will bully the opposition there will be no place for Westbrooke. I’d agree with this. Also, if the Pitman rumour is true then whilst he is slow etc, his positional sense could work very well with Westbrooke and be a good mentor for Jonah and Hanlan regarding movement etc. Lets hope we have better strikers than these 2. I'd put Hanlon out wide and Ayunga on loan
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Post by wilmslowgas on May 14, 2021 13:36:29 GMT
I’d agree with this. Also, if the Pitman rumour is true then whilst he is slow etc, his positional sense could work very well with Westbrooke and be a good mentor for Jonah and Hanlan regarding movement etc. Lets hope we have better strikers than these 2. I'd put Hanlon out wide and Ayunga on loan Agree about our strikers and based on the last season I have series doubts about all of them. That was not my initial opinion but as the season wore on they seemed to get worse and worse. Hanlon cannot lead the line. There may be a role for him somewhere but he goes to ground far too often. In the end referees get fed up with him. Daly does not seem to be rated by either Tisdale or Barton. Add that to his injury record is he really worth having in the squad? Ayunga does not not convince me that he is a striker even at our reduced level. Best option is the loan route and he may prove everybody wrong. Delighted if that's the case.
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Post by warehamgas on May 14, 2021 13:57:42 GMT
Westbrooke will thrive in a successful team. Put a load of good players around him relative to the quality of the opposition and he will deliver. He will do well in L2 if Barton gets the right players alongside him. If we are looking to build a battling team who will bully the opposition there will be no place for Westbrooke. I’d agree with this. Also, if the Pitman rumour is true then whilst he is slow etc, his positional sense could work very well with Westbrooke and be a good mentor for Jonah and Hanlan regarding movement etc. You’re right but I don’t think we will sign Pitman, but from my experience of watching him since he signed as a 16/17 year old on the pitch at AFCB, that guy will be scoring when he’s over 40. He runs strangely, he’s slow and he’s always been “lazy” but he’s always known where the goal is. One on one he’ll score, he knows where to be and where the ball goes. If he signed we’d all been moaning at him for this that and the other and then in the last 10 minutes he’d score to win the match. I must have seen so much of him in his two spells at Bournemouth and the goals he scored to take them into the PL before being let go and the hammering he took from people I sit with was amazing for a player who scored! It always amazed me. JB will not like his attitude or his match activity and that’s why I don’t think he’ll sign. UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on May 14, 2021 14:33:36 GMT
Westbrooke will thrive in a successful team. Put a load of good players around him relative to the quality of the opposition and he will deliver. He will do well in L2 if Barton gets the right players alongside him. If we are looking to build a battling team who will bully the opposition there will be no place for Westbrooke. That’s not necessarily true. As long as there are plenty of battlers in the team who will look out for everyone especially those whose strength is more technical than battling the technical players can thrive. Most successful teams at our level have a great blend of both. Sercombe at Cheltenham this season suggests there is room for Westbrook in the team, just as long as he has the right players alongside him to do the dirty work..
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on May 14, 2021 14:37:58 GMT
That’s not necessarily true. As long as there are plenty of battlers in the team who will look out for everyone especially those whose strength is more technical than battling the technical players can thrive. Most successful teams at our level have a great blend of both. Sercombe at Cheltenham this season suggests there is room for Westbrook in the team, just as long as he has the right players alongside him to do the dirty work.. Been digesting the 4-3-3 attacking formation and the mid three need to have specific roles... Westbrooke could certainly be one as could Granty IMO Attachment DeletedThen with someone like Coutts as the controller (and obvs the intense pre season) we could have the components we need for the mid 3
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 16, 2021 13:05:48 GMT
Looks like Sutton Utd will be joining us next year. They were in the Conf South when we were in the conference so somewhere new for us, I suppose.
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Post by eastville1966 on May 16, 2021 13:10:03 GMT
Looks like Sutton Utd will be joining us next year. They were in the Conf South when we were in the conference. Think you may be right. Been watching the Stockport v Torquay match and as much as I would love Torquay to come up they didn't seem to have a cutting edge to them - they seem to have accepted a play-off place. Interesting to see Mark McGhee in the Stockport dugout too. Wonder what reception he'd get at the Mem if Stockport come up.
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Post by playtowin on May 16, 2021 13:20:46 GMT
Looks like Sutton Utd will be joining us next year. They were in the Conf South when we were in the conference so somewhere new for us, I suppose. 2 games to go yet...anything could happen. Barnet and Altrincham games for torquay. Barnet and Hartlepool for sutton.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 16, 2021 13:22:23 GMT
Looks like Sutton Utd will be joining us next year. They were in the Conf South when we were in the conference. Think you may be right. Been watching the Stockport v Torquay match and as much as I would love Torquay to come up they didn't seem to have a cutting edge to them - they seem to have accepted a play-off place. Interesting to see Mark McGhee in the Stockport dugout too. Wonder what reception he'd get at the Mem if Stockport come up. I'm usually pretty on the ball but didn't realise McGhee was there so thanks for that. Didn't watch the game but highly unlikely Sutton won't win the league now.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 16, 2021 13:23:11 GMT
Looks like Sutton Utd will be joining us next year. They were in the Conf South when we were in the conference so somewhere new for us, I suppose. 2 games to go yet...anything could happen. Barnet and Altrincham games for torquay. Barnet and Hartlepool for sutton. Because of the GD, Sutton are likely to only have to win 1 of those 2.
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Post by Russgas on May 16, 2021 13:29:57 GMT
2 games to go yet...anything could happen. Barnet and Altrincham games for torquay. Barnet and Hartlepool for sutton. Because of the GD, Sutton are likely to only have to win 1 of those 2. Yes with the GD torquay have blown it i think. Fingers crossed for the play offs.🤞
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Post by alanrg on May 16, 2021 13:40:16 GMT
Noticed Chris Hargreaves at Stockport working for BT Sport
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Post by yattongas on May 16, 2021 13:42:44 GMT
Looks like Sutton Utd will be joining us next year. They were in the Conf South when we were in the conference so somewhere new for us, I suppose. 2 games to go yet...anything could happen. Barnet and Altrincham games for torquay. Barnet and Hartlepool for sutton. Barnet have more or less gone on holiday but Hartlepool will be tough . Can see Torquay winning both and if Sutton lose at Hartlepool it’ll come down to goal difference..... and a few goals to swing it .
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