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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jun 9, 2021 11:23:54 GMT
Bloody Germans dragging this on and on. šbutton
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Post by harrystokegas on Jun 9, 2021 11:29:39 GMT
Bloody Germans dragging this on and on. šbutton Odd person.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jun 9, 2021 11:30:05 GMT
Joke. How is it sensible to rearrange for the day before a game? I notice it just states the Friday and there's no mention of the number of days. Does this mean they now think it will be wrapped up quickly?
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Post by SleepyGas on Jun 9, 2021 11:48:02 GMT
Joke. How is it sensible to rearrange for the day before a game? I notice it just states the Friday and there's no mention of the number of days. Does this mean they now think it will be wrapped up quickly? It was meant to take ~5 days with Stendel giving evidence remotely. I guess they want him to come to the UK to give evidence now (maybe accompanied by a translator) - but not sure that will cut much time off the proposed case?
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jun 9, 2021 11:55:30 GMT
Joke. How is it sensible to rearrange for the day before a game? I notice it just states the Friday and there's no mention of the number of days. Does this mean they now think it will be wrapped up quickly? It was meant to take ~5 days with Stendel giving evidence remotely. I guess they want him to come to the UK to give evidence now (maybe accompanied by a translator) - but not sure that will cut much time off the proposed case? Maybe they've now seen there will not be as much to discuss as they first thought/ allowed for. Still seems a bit odd rearranging for a Friday.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 12:08:27 GMT
Our Legal System is an absolute joke and this just confirms it ....
Incredible this tool who has been giving Press Conferences in English for the last three years now doesn't understand enough English to conduct himself appropriately in court ... Total Coward who knows he has very little on which to base a claim but will drag it out anyway. Interesting how Barnsley improved so rapidly once they got rid....
Nowhere near as big an issue as the 'headbutt and throat choke' claim that was doing the rounds... I think JBs brief will have the time of his life with this one ... he will not want to lose for sure.
Hopefully JB will have more support from our Fans next time around especially if we get off to that desperately needed good start.
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Post by alanrg on Jun 9, 2021 12:17:58 GMT
What a farce this whole situation is becoming has you said Stendel spoke English when he was at Barnsley a total joke it has become
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Post by peterparker on Jun 9, 2021 12:47:09 GMT
Joke. How is it sensible to rearrange for the day before a game? I notice it just states the Friday and there's no mention of the number of days. Does this mean they now think it will be wrapped up quickly? It's a criminal trial. Don't think you can really argue when it is.
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Post by cj on Jun 9, 2021 12:50:34 GMT
Joke. How is it sensible to rearrange for the day before a game? I notice it just states the Friday and there's no mention of the number of days. Does this mean they now think it will be wrapped up quickly? Can an appeal be made to change the day so it is not the day before the game? If not then I guess we rearrange the game for the Sunday instead?
May not be our manager then anyway. Most people have said they will give him 10-15 games this coming season and IF it's not working out for him, he will probably be gone by then.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 9, 2021 12:50:51 GMT
What a farce this whole situation is becoming has you said Stendel spoke English when he was at Barnsley a total joke it has become IS this now Gaschat fact that Stendel can't speak English or something and that is the problem? Stendel confirmed in English he can speak English, but obviously it isn't his first language. We are talking about a criminal case and both sides need to get their points across clearly to be fair to both sides. stick in a dodgy internet connection and we don't know how bad that was
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Post by peterparker on Jun 9, 2021 12:52:04 GMT
Joke. How is it sensible to rearrange for the day before a game? I notice it just states the Friday and there's no mention of the number of days. Does this mean they now think it will be wrapped up quickly? Can an appeal be made to change the day so it is not the day before the game? If not then I guess we rearrange the game for the Sunday instead?
May not be our manager then anyway. Most people have said they will give him 10-15 games this coming season and IF it's not working out for him, he will probably be gone by then.
If he was found guilty and given a custodial sentence (not that I think he will or can) it wouldn't matter what day it was would it. If it's in for 5 days again and started a Monday, he is going to miss match prep whatever
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 12:57:05 GMT
It was meant to take ~5 days with Stendel giving evidence remotely. I guess they want him to come to the UK to give evidence now (maybe accompanied by a translator) - but not sure that will cut much time off the proposed case? Maybe they've now seen there will not be as much to discuss as they first thought/ allowed for. Still seems a bit odd rearranging for a Friday. I'm sure Stendel won't be looking forward to this. Leave Eastern France on the Thursday to travel to Sheffield. One day in court, hang around Saturday/Sunday, then back in court Monday to Thursday. Then travel back probably Friday. Eight nights minimum away from his new club in Nancy. Won't be surprised if he bails out before then.
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Post by bluegas on Jun 9, 2021 12:57:41 GMT
What a farce this whole situation is becoming has you said Stendel spoke English when he was at Barnsley a total joke it has become IS this now Gaschat fact that Stendel can't speak English or something and that is the problem? Stendel confirmed in English he can speak English, but obviously it isn't his first language. We are talking about a criminal case and both sides need to get their points across clearly to be fair to both sides. stick in a dodgy internet connection and we don't know how bad that was In which case why wasn't he required to attend court in person from the outset? ?
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Post by bluegas on Jun 9, 2021 13:01:24 GMT
It was meant to take ~5 days with Stendel giving evidence remotely. I guess they want him to come to the UK to give evidence now (maybe accompanied by a translator) - but not sure that will cut much time off the proposed case? Maybe they've now seen there will not be as much to discuss as they first thought/ allowed for. Still seems a bit odd rearranging for a Friday. It's more than odd. It's guaranteed it's going to take more than a day, so why start on a Friday?
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Post by peterparker on Jun 9, 2021 13:02:38 GMT
IS this now Gaschat fact that Stendel can't speak English or something and that is the problem? Stendel confirmed in English he can speak English, but obviously it isn't his first language. We are talking about a criminal case and both sides need to get their points across clearly to be fair to both sides. stick in a dodgy internet connection and we don't know how bad that was In which case why wasn't he required to attend court in person from the outset? ? because I assume they thought the video link or whatever would work, but worldwide internet problems. There was an interpreter there as well as I assume some things would be relayed in German if Stendel was unsure what was being said/asked of him. I am sure there will be an interpreter there when he is there in person none of us no how bad and what the actual communication issues were, but it seems to stem down to technology not Stendel playing stupid like some are insinuating
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Post by bluegas on Jun 9, 2021 13:09:34 GMT
In which case why wasn't he required to attend court in person from the outset? ? because I assume they thought the video link or whatever would work, but worldwide internet problems. There was an interpreter there as well as I assume some things would be relayed in German if Stendel was unsure what was being said/asked of him. I am sure there will be an interpreter there when he is there in person none of us no how bad and what the actual communication issues were, but it seems to stem down to technology not Stendel playing stupidĀ like some are insinuating I'm not blaming Stendel in the slightest. It's our legal system, which (in my limited experience) can be manipulated quite easily by the CPS to suit themselves. A complete lack of Case Management probably. In defiance of Lord Leveson's guidelines.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 13:14:26 GMT
In which case why wasn't he required to attend court in person from the outset? ? because I assume they thought the video link or whatever would work, but worldwide internet problems. There was an interpreter there as well as I assume some things would be relayed in German if Stendel was unsure what was being said/asked of him. I am sure there will be an interpreter there when he is there in person none of us no how bad and what the actual communication issues were, but it seems to stem down to technology not Stendel playing stupid like some are insinuating I believe the Judge said that Stendel has a strong regional accent, which the interpreter sometimes had problems with, which, together with the quality of the connection could mean that the translation was not 100% accurate. He felt it was unfair to either party to continue.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 13:15:22 GMT
In which case why wasn't he required to attend court in person from the outset? ? because I assume they thought the video link or whatever would work, but worldwide internet problems. There was an interpreter there as well as I assume some things would be relayed in German if Stendel was unsure what was being said/asked of him. I am sure there will be an interpreter there when he is there in person none of us no how bad and what the actual communication issues were, but it seems to stem down to technology not Stendel playing stupidĀ like some are insinuating It would appear that the cross examining of Stendel by Joey's barrister was disputing Stendel claims that he did not have a great grasp of the English language. That would suggest to me that Bartons lawyers thought that he may have been playing stupid like some on here are insinuating.
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Post by bluegas on Jun 9, 2021 13:39:39 GMT
Whatever, keeps the legal trade busy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 14:04:03 GMT
because I assume they thought the video link or whatever would work, but worldwide internet problems. There was an interpreter there as well as I assume some things would be relayed in German if Stendel was unsure what was being said/asked of him. I am sure there will be an interpreter there when he is there in person none of us no how bad and what the actual communication issues were, but it seems to stem down to technology not Stendel playing stupid like some are insinuating I believe the Judge said that Stendel has a strong regional accent, which the interpreter sometimes had problems with, which, together with the quality of the connection could mean that the translation was not 100% accurate. He felt it was unfair to either party to continue. Tilly ... My understanding was that it was the inherited Yorkshire accent that everyone had trouble with ... Investigations have now moved to finding a vetinurrry who has castrated the wrong pony!!
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