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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 14:45:21 GMT
Joey seems more like the square upto and punch type rather than push from behind and run off. You haven't read the facts of his previous assaults then.
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Post by Gassy on Jun 7, 2021 14:46:54 GMT
You’ve read it, but you’ve misunderstood it. He said he’s seen worse than a push, not Barton’s push. It’s really not hard. Nothing rattled here old sport, how about you stop trying to wind people up, eh? Can you do that? In fairness he said he’s seen plenty worse, not he’s seen worse than a push. Arguing over semantics here but I can see where GGMI is coming from as it wasn’t made clear. It’s pretty clear that saying “seen plenty worse lol” isn’t referring to “I am the sole person to have seen the video where Barton does or does not push Stendel” IMO.
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Post by playtowin on Jun 7, 2021 14:47:13 GMT
Joey seems more like the square upto and punch type rather than push from behind and run off. You haven't read the facts of his previous assaults then. No. But did see the video of the beach incident and his playing days on the pitch antics.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 7, 2021 14:48:28 GMT
In fairness he said he’s seen plenty worse, not he’s seen worse than a push. Arguing over semantics here but I can see where GGMI is coming from as it wasn’t made clear. It’s pretty clear that saying “seen plenty worse lol” isn’t referring to “I am the sole person to have seen the video where Barton does or does not push Stendel” IMO. And more importantly does it make it right that he's seen worse. If you've seen someone murder someone then does it make it right to see someone rape someone?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 14:49:06 GMT
You haven't read the facts of his previous assaults then. No. But did see the video of the beach incident and his playing days on the pitch antics. Would that have been the edited video of the beach incident?
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Jun 7, 2021 14:49:57 GMT
It’s pretty clear that saying “seen plenty worse lol” isn’t referring to “I am the sole person to have seen the video where Barton does or does not push Stendel” IMO. And more importantly does it make it right that he's seen worse. If you've seen someone murder someone then does it make it right to see someone rape someone? Think you both should take it offline, just embarrassing and cringe now ffs
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Post by peterparker on Jun 7, 2021 14:52:58 GMT
You haven't read the facts of his previous assaults then. No. But did see the video of the beach incident and his playing days on the pitch antics. so you must have seen him kick Aquero from behind then
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Post by Gassy on Jun 7, 2021 14:53:24 GMT
It’s pretty clear that saying “seen plenty worse lol” isn’t referring to “I am the sole person to have seen the video where Barton does or does not push Stendel” IMO. And more importantly does it make it right that he's seen worse. If you've seen someone murder someone then does it make it right to see someone rape someone? Doesn’t matter as it has nothing to do with being right or wrong, the point you’re making is totally irrelevant. I’m just saying that miles clearly never claimed to have seen the video.
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Post by peterparker on Jun 7, 2021 14:56:47 GMT
Reading the prosecution's opening statement I am not sure he is even sure if Barton is guilty. Assuming he did knock him over it must be almost impossible to prove whether it was accidental or a deliberate assault based on the ( lack of ) evidence they seem to have. It strikes me this is going to come down to one persons word against another. If he was not a football manager would this ever have got to a Crown Court ? the prosecution are contending and aided by video that as Barton ran down the tunnel he veered left upon coming to Stendel and knocked him over, which corroborates the main witness' statement That's my understanding of what was reported today
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jun 7, 2021 14:57:12 GMT
Sounds like nothing more than I see go unpunished in Quigleys or Pizza Palace on a Saturday night
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Post by playtowin on Jun 7, 2021 15:01:01 GMT
No. But did see the video of the beach incident and his playing days on the pitch antics. so you must have seen him kick Aquero from behind then In front of millions of people and didnt run off afterwards.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 7, 2021 15:01:23 GMT
And more importantly does it make it right that he's seen worse. If you've seen someone murder someone then does it make it right to see someone rape someone? Doesn’t matter as it has nothing to do with being right or wrong, the point you’re making is totally irrelevant. I’m just saying that miles clearly never claimed to have seen the video. No he didn't and that's my point. How can you say you've seen worse than something you haven't actually seen? And does that make it alright? It's bollocks.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jun 7, 2021 15:03:05 GMT
You haven't read the facts of his previous assaults then. No. But did see the video of the beach incident and his playing days on the pitch antics. That wasn’t him on the beach, according to everybody else that was on the beach😂
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Post by Gassy on Jun 7, 2021 15:04:19 GMT
Doesn’t matter as it has nothing to do with being right or wrong, the point you’re making is totally irrelevant. I’m just saying that miles clearly never claimed to have seen the video. No he didn't and that's my point. How can you say you've seen worse than something you haven't actually seen? It's bollocks. I stubbed my toe the other day. Have you ever seen worse?
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jun 7, 2021 15:05:27 GMT
Well, at least it's starting to feel like a traditional matchday thread!
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Post by gregsy on Jun 7, 2021 15:06:57 GMT
Well, at least it's starting to feel like a traditional matchday thread! Its almost reminiscent of when Accrington scored their 6th....
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Post by axegas on Jun 7, 2021 15:07:23 GMT
Well, at least it's starting to feel like a traditional matchday thread! I’m surprised we didn’t have arguments over who started it! If Tilly wins this one for Barton, I want her to start the first one back next season.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 7, 2021 15:14:00 GMT
Well, at least it's starting to feel like a traditional matchday thread! Goal!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 15:14:37 GMT
Just one big Media Circus. I saw and with other parents and Coaches break up a mass brawl with an U15's game a couple of weekends ago. Are they in Court? ? I don't condone violence one bit in any form or situation. But really is it that big a story.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jun 7, 2021 15:19:52 GMT
Just one big Media Circus. I saw and with other parents and Coaches break up a mass brawl with an U15's game a couple of weekends ago. Are they in Court? ? I don't condone violence one bit in any form or situation. But really is it that big a story. Yes. If the alleged incident did take place then A professional manager assaulting a fellow professional manager is a big story that is bound to draw attention, especially when the accused is high profile and has a history of stupendous actions. We knew what we were taking on, we just have to wait and see now.
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