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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 15, 2021 5:26:14 GMT
You aren't playing attention then. The passport could be used to “consider a national ID strategy” and “become part of the infrastructure of the new normal” says the company developing the vaccine passport. The combination of apps with sensitive health data and the subversion of everyday businesses and events into checkpoints could constitute the biggest expansion of the surveillance state ever seen in the UK. Thankfully We have a proud history of opposition to ID cards in this country and many will continue to do so. Next you'll need some some of ID card to travel, drive or even borrow books from the library. Whatever next You are deluded mate. I only use doctors that refuse to show any documents that prove they are qualified, I've never bought a car with an MOT and I only use child minders who refuse to be DBS checked. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 15, 2021 5:28:07 GMT
You aren't playing attention then. The passport could be used to “consider a national ID strategy” and “become part of the infrastructure of the new normal” says the company developing the vaccine passport. The combination of apps with sensitive health data and the subversion of everyday businesses and events into checkpoints could constitute the biggest expansion of the surveillance state ever seen in the UK. Thankfully We have a proud history of opposition to ID cards in this country and many will continue to do so. Next you'll need some some of ID card to travel, drive or even borrow books from the library. Whatever next BOOM!!!!!
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Post by RD on Jul 15, 2021 5:29:46 GMT
Next you'll need some some of ID card to travel, drive or even borrow books from the library. Whatever next You are deluded mate. I only use doctors that refuse to show any documents that prove they are qualified, I've never bought a car with an MOT and I only use child minders who refuse to be DBS checked. WAKE UP SHEEPLE! Same mate. I've not been to a pub either, since being asked for ID on my 18th birthday. The bouncers are cyborg lizards and what they do is they scan your ID and then their "eyes" send all your information back to the government. And to Russia. They then use the details of your home address to install secret surveillance (they know you're out afterall) so they can spy on you 24/7. No way was I stupid enough to fall for that.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 15, 2021 5:33:54 GMT
You are deluded mate. I only use doctors that refuse to show any documents that prove they are qualified, I've never bought a car with an MOT and I only use child minders who refuse to be DBS checked. WAKE UP SHEEPLE! Same mate. I've not been to a pub either, since being asked for ID on my 18th birthday. The bouncers are cyborg lizards and what they do is they scan your ID and then their "eyes" send all your information back to the government. And to Russia. They then use the details of your home address to install secret surveillance (they know you're out afterall) so they can spy on you 24/7. No way was I stupid enough to fall for that. Yeah, I don't use pubs either. Not when you can get beer for £12 a box. Even better, it's only a tenner because I use my Clubcard. I'm one step ahead
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Post by RD on Jul 15, 2021 5:35:16 GMT
Same mate. I've not been to a pub either, since being asked for ID on my 18th birthday. The bouncers are cyborg lizards and what they do is they scan your ID and then their "eyes" send all your information back to the government. And to Russia. They then use the details of your home address to install secret surveillance (they know you're out afterall) so they can spy on you 24/7. No way was I stupid enough to fall for that. Yeah, I don't use pubs either. Not when you can get beer for £12 a box. Even better, it's only a tenner because I use my Clubcard. I'm one step ahead You're also a . You know what they do with that clubcard don't you? They use it to build up a reference if all your eating and drinking habits so that they can lace the products you buy with nanochips.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 15, 2021 5:38:05 GMT
Yeah, I don't use pubs either. Not when you can get beer for £12 a box. Even better, it's only a tenner because I use my Clubcard. I'm one step ahead You're also a . You know what they do with that clubcard don't you? They use it to build up a reference if all your eating and drinking habits so that they can lace the products you buy with nanochips. Hahahahah, nanochips? You ignorant sheep. I don't eat them. I buy potato waffles. One step ahead
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 6:17:06 GMT
How is it a fact? Have they put 100 of each in a room and sprayed virus on them type research, or are we going by the sky news scientists again? I'll tell you a fact. I don't know anybody who has perished from covid. That's 18 months of hysteria. I'm one of 12 children with an Irish wife(big family) and not a single fatality. I do know people who have died though, quite a few, probably 10 or so in the same time. Some of these young men from suicide. Before you start mouthing off at me. Just think about that and how my perspective might be different to yours on this. Some people believe in ghosts. I don't because I haven't experienced one. I'm done on this thread.And rightly so. You are totally and utterly misguided. You really shouldn't speak about things you have no clue about. All you have is an opinion - but spreading misinformation is dangerous. "I'll tell you a fact. I don't know anybody who has perished from covid. That's 18 months of hysteria. I'm one of 12 children with an Irish wife(big family) and not a single fatality.". Well lucky you. There are circa 128,000 people who have died. So based on every single person knowing even 10 people that's well over a MILLION people who have been directly affected by it. FFS even our own Gasheads have perished. You are lucky. Nothing more, nothing less. My statement above is basic knowledge, laced with extremely basic science - it really shouldn't be difficult to grasp. As such, if you're not intellectually capable of understanding the statement I made, we're better off leaving the conversation there. You need to understand that you may have a different perspective, but you can still be wrong. Hopefully this image opens your closed eyes. Both of these people have a perspective. But only one of them can be right - it's either a 6 OR a 9 - irrespective of their individual perspective. Oh wow. You DID start mouthing off at me! Charming. So.. I am misguided? As per my fact, I am guided by my circumstances. If that makes me "lucky" then I'll take that for now until my circumstances change. Then, like all of us I am free to alter my stance. Basic knowledge + basic science? You do realise that stats and findings are susceptible to change right? Over time and with different methods and procedures, we reveal different results. Even during this pandemic some of the basic knowledge has changed since different experts have their own views. "Masks do work v masks don't work", "kids are safe from vax v kids aren't safe from vax" etc. Intellectually capable? We disagree on something so you resort to that. Good for you. Spreading misinformation? You quote 128k who have died. Well according to the small print and countless reports which we have all seen and experienced..thats 'with covid' and within 28 days of a positive test'. So perhaps you should take some of your own strong worded advice on that point ok. There is a piece buried on the net from a few weeks ago regarding a petition in Lisbon which forced the authorities to restock the figures. 17k deaths turned into 152 over the argued period which might affect our daily news somewhat..https://www.expatica.com/pt/news/lisbon-court-rules-only-0-9-of-verified-cases-actually-died-of-covid-100196/ So you've also used a little picture to suggest my perspective might be wrong? Talking intellectual capabilities, I'm assuming you understand the issue with that argument! In closing. Try to make your point without being rude. I can see you are excited by this topic but if you go outside and speak to people, you might realise that there are a growing number with an opinion opposite to yours. That should be fine though, since we live in a country which allows that. This is akin to the vax being a choice. Let people choose. I won't respond publicly but happy to DM if you need to mate. Cheers. Si.
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Post by RD on Jul 15, 2021 6:47:01 GMT
And rightly so. You are totally and utterly misguided. You really shouldn't speak about things you have no clue about. All you have is an opinion - but spreading misinformation is dangerous. "I'll tell you a fact. I don't know anybody who has perished from covid. That's 18 months of hysteria. I'm one of 12 children with an Irish wife(big family) and not a single fatality.". Well lucky you. There are circa 128,000 people who have died. So based on every single person knowing even 10 people that's well over a MILLION people who have been directly affected by it. FFS even our own Gasheads have perished. You are lucky. Nothing more, nothing less. My statement above is basic knowledge, laced with extremely basic science - it really shouldn't be difficult to grasp. As such, if you're not intellectually capable of understanding the statement I made, we're better off leaving the conversation there. You need to understand that you may have a different perspective, but you can still be wrong. Hopefully this image opens your closed eyes. Both of these people have a perspective. But only one of them can be right - it's either a 6 OR a 9 - irrespective of their individual perspective. Oh wow. You DID start mouthing off at me! Charming. So.. I am misguided? As per my fact, I am guided by my circumstances. If that makes me "lucky" then I'll take that for now until my circumstances change. Then, like all of us I am free to alter my stance. Basic knowledge + basic science? You do realise that stats and findings are susceptible to change right? Over time and with different methods and procedures, we reveal different results. Even during this pandemic some of the basic knowledge has changed since different experts have their own views. "Masks do work v masks don't work", "kids are safe from vax v kids aren't safe from vax" etc. Intellectually capable? We disagree on something so you resort to that. Good for you. Spreading misinformation? You quote 128k who have died. Well according to the small print and countless reports which we have all seen and experienced..thats 'with covid' and within 28 days of a positive test'. So perhaps you should take some of your own strong worded advice on that point ok. There is a piece buried on the net from a few weeks ago regarding a petition in Lisbon which forced the authorities to restock the figures. 17k deaths turned into 152 over the argued period which might affect our daily news somewhat..https://www.expatica.com/pt/news/lisbon-court-rules-only-0-9-of-verified-cases-actually-died-of-covid-100196/ So you've also used a little picture to suggest my perspective might be wrong? Talking intellectual capabilities, I'm assuming you understand the issue with that argument! In closing. Try to make your point without being rude. I can see you are excited by this topic but if you go outside and speak to people, you might realise that there are a growing number with an opinion opposite to yours.That should be fine though, since we live in a country which allows that. This is akin to the vax being a choice. Let people choose. I won't respond publicly but happy to DM if you need to mate. Cheers. Si. Says the man who openly admits he doesn't leave the house ffs 😂 And a growing opinion means f**k all. If a growing number of people believe the world is flat, or that 1+1=3,their growing opinion is utterly worthless. You are wrong. It's as simple as that. Like it or not. There's no room for opinion when 99.9% of what you post is FACTUALLY inaccurate.
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Post by Quarters on Jul 15, 2021 6:58:57 GMT
The club have a rule that you don't invade the pitch. On the main this rule is followed.
So if the club rules state proof off double jab or a clear test and wear a mask, then follow the rule. Simples!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 15, 2021 7:17:59 GMT
And rightly so. You are totally and utterly misguided. You really shouldn't speak about things you have no clue about. All you have is an opinion - but spreading misinformation is dangerous. "I'll tell you a fact. I don't know anybody who has perished from covid. That's 18 months of hysteria. I'm one of 12 children with an Irish wife(big family) and not a single fatality.". Well lucky you. There are circa 128,000 people who have died. So based on every single person knowing even 10 people that's well over a MILLION people who have been directly affected by it. FFS even our own Gasheads have perished. You are lucky. Nothing more, nothing less. My statement above is basic knowledge, laced with extremely basic science - it really shouldn't be difficult to grasp. As such, if you're not intellectually capable of understanding the statement I made, we're better off leaving the conversation there. You need to understand that you may have a different perspective, but you can still be wrong. Hopefully this image opens your closed eyes. Both of these people have a perspective. But only one of them can be right - it's either a 6 OR a 9 - irrespective of their individual perspective. Oh wow. You DID start mouthing off at me! Charming. So.. I am misguided? As per my fact, I am guided by my circumstances. If that makes me "lucky" then I'll take that for now until my circumstances change. Then, like all of us I am free to alter my stance. Basic knowledge + basic science? You do realise that stats and findings are susceptible to change right? Over time and with different methods and procedures, we reveal different results. Even during this pandemic some of the basic knowledge has changed since different experts have their own views. "Masks do work v masks don't work", "kids are safe from vax v kids aren't safe from vax" etc. Intellectually capable? We disagree on something so you resort to that. Good for you. Spreading misinformation? You quote 128k who have died. Well according to the small print and countless reports which we have all seen and experienced..thats 'with covid' and within 28 days of a positive test'. So perhaps you should take some of your own strong worded advice on that point ok. There is a piece buried on the net from a few weeks ago regarding a petition in Lisbon which forced the authorities to restock the figures. 17k deaths turned into 152 over the argued period which might affect our daily news somewhat..https://www.expatica.com/pt/news/lisbon-court-rules-only-0-9-of-verified-cases-actually-died-of-covid-100196/ So you've also used a little picture to suggest my perspective might be wrong? Talking intellectual capabilities, I'm assuming you understand the issue with that argument! In closing. Try to make your point without being rude. I can see you are excited by this topic but if you go outside and speak to people, you might realise that there are a growing number with an opinion opposite to yours. That should be fine though, since we live in a country which allows that. This is akin to the vax being a choice. Let people choose. I won't respond publicly but happy to DM if you need to mate. Cheers. Si. People can choose not to have the Vax. If they choose not to, that's up to them. However, that choice will have a consequence. My sister chose not to learn to drive. Are you suggesting that she should be allowed to hop into a Ferrari and head up the M4? If the rules for entry to the Mem is a vax passport then tough sh** to those without one isn't it?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 15, 2021 7:29:55 GMT
Any thoughts on the Army Psychological Warfare Unit '77th Brigade' Westy ?
Nothing to do with 77th Bde, Wes, it's not their remit nor would they be needed for that sort of work. Your last meme is incorrect too. If the government were really behind these posts then it wouldn't be 77th Bde anyway. Please don't start quoting David Miller either.
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Post by Westy on Jul 15, 2021 8:10:39 GMT
Any thoughts on the Army Psychological Warfare Unit '77th Brigade' Westy ?
To cut a long story short, we've all been very bad little proles - what with our protesting against climate change (XR), racism (BLM), human rights (Kill the Bill) and egregious Capitalism (Occupy X), and we need to be put in our place. Can't have the public switched on and aware of our daily plights .. let alone out in the street protesting for a better world. Nah, what we need is a nice government led misinformation campaign to make us scared of a little sniffle, so the powers that be can guage our response to having our civil liberties impinged. Lock down, stay at home, don't visit your mum, sod your nan - she can die alone in a hospital ward, don't go to the pub and be careful if the postman sneezes... That'll show the great unwashed who's in charge Now stay at home like good little proles The government cares, and the government knows best 👍👍👍
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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2021 8:13:15 GMT
Some of the Anti Vax comments on here are pure comedy gold. I have a sneaking admiration for their bravery though. To make a public display of such ignorance and paranoia takes some backbone.
In the other hand, it is most likely they dont even see that either.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 15, 2021 8:17:01 GMT
Having spent the best part of an hour reading such trash, i think some of our posters need to seek help from the people in white coats
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Post by Westy on Jul 15, 2021 8:18:00 GMT
Some of the Anti Vax comments on here are pure comedy gold. I have a sneaking admiration for their bravery though. To make a public display of such ignorance and paranoia takes some backbone. In the other hand, it is most likely they dont even see that either. Yes, Dr. Boris and Dr. Trump have your best interests at heart, and they just want you to be healthy 😂
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Post by Westy on Jul 15, 2021 8:21:11 GMT
I often wonder if people consider how they look to outsiders, when they cow-toe the party line of politicians.
"Nope, I have no clue of science or history, but JVT told me to wear a mask so I'm "following the science" (even though I've never read a piece of academic literature in my lifetime)"
All hail politicians and government! They care about my family, they care about the people, they never lie and have never been found to introduce misinformation to the public to further their own reaches
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Post by jungleboogie on Jul 15, 2021 8:25:55 GMT
Blimey, thought there were a few Rovers fans that talked out of their arse on here about football, but it seems that some are just utter tw*ts in general.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 15, 2021 8:29:09 GMT
I can't for the life of me see what the big issue is. Have a couple of injections on NHS and carry a card/app device with you to get into public places. Hardly asking people to go to war are they? Haha how come you're obsessed with war? It's only a national anthem we aren't declaring war.. Yawn. Clearly seems to be my benchmark. I guess living through it was a walk in the park?
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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2021 8:30:24 GMT
Some of the Anti Vax comments on here are pure comedy gold. I have a sneaking admiration for their bravery though. To make a public display of such ignorance and paranoia takes some backbone. In the other hand, it is most likely they dont even see that either. Yes, Dr. Boris and Dr. Trump have your best interests at heart, and they just want you to be healthy 😂 Thats a whole different topic. Those two morons did not develope any medical intervention that will, hopefully, enable all of us to return to normal life and human interaction. For that we can refer to and thank people like Sarah Gilbert at Oxford University and the German / Turkish pair at Biontech. Dont confuse matters, particularly when you may have a point, which some of us would support.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 15, 2021 8:31:00 GMT
I often wonder if people consider how they look to outsiders, when they cow-toe the party line of politicians. "Nope, I have no clue of science or history, but JVT told me to wear a mask so I'm "following the science" (even though I've never read a piece of academic literature in my lifetime)" All hail politicians and government! They care about my family, they care about the people, they never lie and have never been found to introduce misinformation to the public to further their own reaches 🙄 In fairness, Jonathan Van Tamm is a government advisor, not a politician.
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