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Post by RD on Jul 15, 2021 8:40:18 GMT
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jul 15, 2021 8:57:53 GMT
It’s not been the same since we couldn’t pay cash on the turnstiles.
Bill Gates out.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jul 15, 2021 8:58:53 GMT
100 per cent agree pirate , lemmings springs to mind ! 💙 Ah yes, "sheeple". Dear oh dear. 💙💙💙
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 15, 2021 9:02:36 GMT
I so want to reply to this but I better not 😁
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jul 15, 2021 9:04:23 GMT
Yeah, I don't use pubs either. Not when you can get beer for £12 a box. Even better, it's only a tenner because I use my Clubcard. I'm one step ahead You're also a . You know what they do with that clubcard don't you? They use it to build up a reference if all your eating and drinking habits so that they can lace the products you buy with nanochips.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jul 15, 2021 9:05:08 GMT
Yeah, I don't use pubs either. Not when you can get beer for £12 a box. Even better, it's only a tenner because I use my Clubcard. I'm one step ahead You're also a . You know what they do with that clubcard don't you? They use it to build up a reference if all your eating and drinking habits so that they can lace the products you buy with nanochips.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jul 15, 2021 9:06:05 GMT
Many a true word spoken in jest , watch this space 🤫💙💙💙💙
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 9:10:36 GMT
Oh wow. You DID start mouthing off at me! Charming. So.. I am misguided? As per my fact, I am guided by my circumstances. If that makes me "lucky" then I'll take that for now until my circumstances change. Then, like all of us I am free to alter my stance. Basic knowledge + basic science? You do realise that stats and findings are susceptible to change right? Over time and with different methods and procedures, we reveal different results. Even during this pandemic some of the basic knowledge has changed since different experts have their own views. "Masks do work v masks don't work", "kids are safe from vax v kids aren't safe from vax" etc. Intellectually capable? We disagree on something so you resort to that. Good for you. Spreading misinformation? You quote 128k who have died. Well according to the small print and countless reports which we have all seen and experienced..thats 'with covid' and within 28 days of a positive test'. So perhaps you should take some of your own strong worded advice on that point ok. There is a piece buried on the net from a few weeks ago regarding a petition in Lisbon which forced the authorities to restock the figures. 17k deaths turned into 152 over the argued period which might affect our daily news somewhat..https://www.expatica.com/pt/news/lisbon-court-rules-only-0-9-of-verified-cases-actually-died-of-covid-100196/ So you've also used a little picture to suggest my perspective might be wrong? Talking intellectual capabilities, I'm assuming you understand the issue with that argument! In closing. Try to make your point without being rude. I can see you are excited by this topic but if you go outside and speak to people, you might realise that there are a growing number with an opinion opposite to yours. That should be fine though, since we live in a country which allows that. This is akin to the vax being a choice. Let people choose. I won't respond publicly but happy to DM if you need to mate. Cheers. Si. People can choose not to have the Vax. If they choose not to, that's up to them. However, that choice will have a consequence. My sister chose not to learn to drive. Are you suggesting that she should be allowed to hop into a Ferrari and head up the M4? If the rules for entry to the Mem is a vax passport then tough sh** to those without one isn't it? Absolutely. As previously stated, I won't go.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 9:13:56 GMT
[/quote] Says the man who openly admits he doesn't leave the house ffs 😂
Bring me online with this please?
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Post by pirate on Jul 15, 2021 9:14:58 GMT
The thing that makes me chuckle is how some people can be so gullible and subservient to tyrannical policies. You really are the worst kind. Genuine question - do you believe the earth is flat? I know for a fact you believe in chemtrails, so we already know your a conspiracy theorist. Bill Gates controlling us with the vaccine? 5G? Come on - if you've got the balls to post this stuff then have the balls to be open and honest with us about all the theories you believe. Ah bless, nice try with your smears. I don't believe the earth is flat (obviously 🙄) and I don't believe Bill Gates is trying to control us with vaccines either, but I do believe he has a number of conflicts of interest. Gates has stocks invested in Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson (see Here) and gives money to several media companies involved in censorship, including the BBC. Gates has also given money to the regulator that approved the vaccine and has also given large amounts of money to Imperial College London. Gates was also calling for manufacturers to have indemnification to be protected from liability lawsuits and ministers changed the law before the vaccine approvals to give new protections to companies such as Pfizer, giving them immunity from being sued by patients in the event of any complications. Fancy that. You can speculate all you want on the rest. As for your other attempted smear and straw man argument, I do believe some people want to and have been involved in dangerous geoengeneering experiments, probably because is isn't a secret and has various scholarly articles written on the subject from places such as the Royal Society. You can read about some of those Bill Gates funded projects in the articles below and inform yourself better. www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/mar/25/top-us-scientists-back-100m-geoengineering-research-proposalwww.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07533-4www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/may/14/bill-gates-cloud-whitening-dangerous
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Post by pirate on Jul 15, 2021 9:20:10 GMT
Any thoughts on the Army Psychological Warfare Unit '77th Brigade' Westy ?
Nothing to do with 77th Bde, Wes, it's not their remit nor would they be needed for that sort of work. Your last meme is incorrect too. If the government were really behind these posts then it wouldn't be 77th Bde anyway. Please don't start quoting David Miller either. Twitter's "head of editorial" in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa also serves as a part-time officer for the British Army's 77th brigade. This unit, which was created in 2015, is intended to use psychological operations and social media platforms such as Twitter or Facebook to help fight wars "in the information age."
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Post by LJG on Jul 15, 2021 9:30:48 GMT
Some of the Anti Vax comments on here are pure comedy gold. I have a sneaking admiration for their bravery though. To make a public display of such ignorance and paranoia takes some backbone. In the other hand, it is most likely they dont even see that either. It seems to me that much of the narrative isn't actually anti-vax it's rather anti-restriction of liberty. It would be a significant step outside of wartime to require private citizens to carry a "passport" to access services and public spaces - not just talking about attending Rovers here. The comparison with a passport and a driving licence is not a strong one since it is easy for an individual to choose not to travel overseas or drive. It is far less easy to choose to be excluded from everyday life as you have enjoyed it until now. Particularly if shopping centres for example might also have the same requirement. I have some trepidation about that myself and don't consider that I am an "anti-vaxxer" nor a conspiracy theorist. The mocking stuff about what "the man" might do with the information ignores that there are risks behind state control and surveillance. Firstly mistakes can be made resulting in sensitive information ending up where it shouldn't - data losses, hacks etc. And secondly while we are all, relatively, comfortable that we currently have a government without nefarious ends we cannot be sure that that will always be the case. The smartphone argument is a good one and we should all have some concern about the amount of information that large corporations have on us but large corporations do not have an armed forces nor a police force. There is a distinction to be made there. I'm not sure what the answer is but I do think dismissing legitimate concerns about vaccine passports as "anti-vax" crackpot conspiracy is a bit unfair.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 15, 2021 9:32:08 GMT
Says the man who openly admits he doesn't leave the house ffs 😂 Bring me online with this please?[/quote] I hope not otherwise I am going to be lonely later!
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Post by Qatar Gas on Jul 15, 2021 9:34:32 GMT
From reading the England Fans Facebook pages and forums, it looks like tons of people now have Covid caught from the last couple of games. This number will probably increase.
Personally, I’ve no issue with being made to wear face masks in crowded spaces, even if outside. I know previous data told us only a very small number of people caught Covid whilst being outside. However, this was before crowds were allowed to gather at sporting events or elsewhere, not to mention the previous strains of the virus were not as transmittable as what we are seeing now. As I’ve said before, the UK is one of the only mask wearing countries where you don’t have to wear a mask outside.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 9:36:22 GMT
Says the man who openly admits he doesn't leave the house ffs 😂 Bring me online with this please? I hope not otherwise I am going to be lonely later![/quote] Lol. I genuinely have no idea? Perhaps I've joked elsewhere on here or RD has made an honest mistake? I'm good for it bro.😉
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 15, 2021 9:36:31 GMT
Some of the Anti Vax comments on here are pure comedy gold. I have a sneaking admiration for their bravery though. To make a public display of such ignorance and paranoia takes some backbone. In the other hand, it is most likely they dont even see that either. It seems to me that much of the narrative isn't actually anti-vax it's rather anti-restriction of liberty. It would be a significant step outside of wartime to require private citizens to carry a "passport" to access services and public spaces - not just talking about attending Rovers here. The comparison with a passport and a driving licence is not a strong one since it is easy for an individual to choose not to travel overseas or drive. It is far less easy to choose to be excluded from everyday life as you have enjoyed it until now. Particularly if shopping centres for example might also have the same requirement. I have some trepidation about that myself and don't consider that I am an "anti-vaxxer" nor a conspiracy theorist. The mocking stuff about what "the man" might do with the information ignores that there are risks behind state control and surveillance. Firstly mistakes can be made resulting in sensitive information ending up where it shouldn't - data losses, hacks etc. And secondly while we are all, relatively, comfortable that we currently have a government without nefarious ends we cannot be sure that that will always be the case. The smartphone argument is a good one and we should all have some concern about the amount of information that large corporations have on us but large corporations do not have an armed forces nor a police force. There is a distinction to be made there. I'm not sure what the answer is but I do think dismissing legitimate concerns about vaccine passports as "anti-vax" crackpot conspiracy is a bit unfair. Then maybe conspiracy corner needs to up its game. I actually love a good conspiracy and have no doubt there are elements of truth in some of them but its a very short leap in narrative from that to calling the Tories are a tyranny and claiming aeroplanes are making the frogs gay.
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Post by Westy on Jul 15, 2021 9:39:14 GMT
From reading the England Fans Facebook pages and forums, it looks like tons of people now have Covid caught from the last couple of games. This number will probably increase. Personally, I’ve no issue with being made to wear face masks in crowded spaces, even if outside. I know previous data told us only a very small number of people caught Covid whilst being outside. However, this was before crowds were allowed to gather at sporting events or elsewhere, not to mention the previous strains of the virus were not as transmittable as what we are seeing now. As I’ve said before, the UK is one of the only mask wearing countries where you don’t have to wear a mask outside. People get the flu. It's well documented. Follow the science 😁😁😁
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Post by falsenumber9 on Jul 15, 2021 9:40:38 GMT
From reading the England Fans Facebook pages and forums, it looks like tons of people now have Covid caught from the last couple of games. This number will probably increase. Personally, I’ve no issue with being made to wear face masks in crowded spaces, even if outside. I know previous data told us only a very small number of people caught Covid whilst being outside. However, this was before crowds were allowed to gather at sporting events or elsewhere, not to mention the previous strains of the virus were not as transmittable as what we are seeing now. As I’ve said before, the UK is one of the only mask wearing countries where you don’t have to wear a mask outside. That begs the question as to what those fans were doing on the matchday. When I was at Wembley, I was surprised by the amount of people drinking, singing and not distancing in big numbers in the concourse area. That felt like a recipe.
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Post by oldie on Jul 15, 2021 9:40:51 GMT
In all of this, lots of truths in this bit of political comedy. Could be on any thread, but I put it here.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 15, 2021 9:40:55 GMT
Nothing to do with 77th Bde, Wes, it's not their remit nor would they be needed for that sort of work. Your last meme is incorrect too. If the government were really behind these posts then it wouldn't be 77th Bde anyway. Please don't start quoting David Miller either. Twitter's "head of editorial" in Europe, the Middle East, and Africa also serves as a part-time officer for the British Army's 77th brigade. This unit, which was created in 2015, is intended to use psychological operations and social media platforms such as Twitter or Facebook to help fight wars "in the information age." But not aimed at the UK network, the government has others to look at that. Their role here is to counter foreign disinformation.
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