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Post by aghast on Jul 19, 2021 15:43:55 GMT
I think that is it, people should wear a mask if it makes them feel more comfortable ans I have no issues with anyone who wants to continue wearing them, the same as I don’t expect people to have a problem with me if I am not wearing mine. I haven’t got involved in this thread as it is just another point at the moment which is causing massive divisions and unnecessary abuse toward other people of a different opinion. I have not had my vaccine, for my own reasons but I am in no way an anit-vaxxer, and I am willing to wear a mask and prove a negative test result before entering the mem to watch the rovers play if that is what the club ask of me. Out of interest as I’m not sure how it will work in match day, but how will we prove a negative test result? I really want to take my son next Saturday as he has missed the football massively but not sure on how I go about going without having my vaccination TIA You take a lateral flow test, log it on the government website and they send you a text and email which you can show as proof. Easy. They may as well have the bloke in the ticket office asking if you've had a negative test and then handing you your ticket. It's proof Jim, but not as we know it.
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Post by eastgas on Jul 19, 2021 15:48:26 GMT
I think that is it, people should wear a mask if it makes them feel more comfortable ans I have no issues with anyone who wants to continue wearing them, the same as I don’t expect people to have a problem with me if I am not wearing mine. I haven’t got involved in this thread as it is just another point at the moment which is causing massive divisions and unnecessary abuse toward other people of a different opinion. I have not had my vaccine, for my own reasons but I am in no way an anit-vaxxer, and I am willing to wear a mask and prove a negative test result before entering the mem to watch the rovers play if that is what the club ask of me. Out of interest as I’m not sure how it will work in match day, but how will we prove a negative test result? I really want to take my son next Saturday as he has missed the football massively but not sure on how I go about going without having my vaccination TIA You take a lateral flow test, log it on the government website and they send you a text and email which you can show as proof. Easy. Thanks for the help. Hopefully for the friendly on Saturday will have people there to show the proof to. Do you know if my son requires to prove a negative test? He is 11
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Post by Centenary Gas on Jul 19, 2021 16:16:50 GMT
Pretty sure Bojo just said from September everyone will need proof of vax to go to any event with crowds, and negative tests will not be be accepted. If thats the case, not sure what unvaccinated people with season tickets are meant to do.
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Post by SleepyGas on Jul 19, 2021 16:19:31 GMT
Pretty sure Bojo just said from September everyone will need proof of vax to go to any event with crowds, and negative tests will not be be accepted. If thats the case, not sure what unvaccinated people with season tickets are meant to do. Get vaccinated sharpish?
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Post by southbristolgas on Jul 19, 2021 16:33:15 GMT
Pretty sure Bojo just said from September everyone will need proof of vax to go to any event with crowds, and negative tests will not be be accepted. If thats the case, not sure what unvaccinated people with season tickets are meant to do. I find it strange how unvaccinated has to show proof of not having covid yet the vaccinated just have to show they have had the vaccine to gain entry. If the vaccinated has covid (which some will) they will spread it amongst the crowd and potentially could be deadly to all. I have had email confirmations from Tom Gorringe on Saturday and Clare Mcdonagh about 30 mins ago saying you need proof of vaccine or the lateral test to enter the stadium. In my opinion the vaccinated should be proving they don't have covid as well.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 19, 2021 16:42:08 GMT
Pretty sure Bojo just said from September everyone will need proof of vax to go to any event with crowds, and negative tests will not be be accepted. If thats the case, not sure what unvaccinated people with season tickets are meant to do. I find it strange how unvaccinated has to show proof of not having covid yet the vaccinated just have to show they have had the vaccine to gain entry. If the vaccinated has covid (which some will) they will spread it amongst the crowd and potentially could be deadly to all. I have had email confirmations from Tom Gorringe on Saturday and Clare Mcdonagh about 30 mins ago saying you need proof of vaccine or the lateral test to enter the stadium. In my opinion the vaccinated should be proving they don't have covid as well.I agree, just because someone has had both jabs doesn't mean they are immune, and they can still spread it to more vulnerable folk.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 16:43:43 GMT
Pretty sure Bojo just said from September everyone will need proof of vax to go to any event with crowds, and negative tests will not be be accepted. If thats the case, not sure what unvaccinated people with season tickets are meant to do. Yes,only double jabbed allowed in nightclubs apparently. Ridiculous. The vax is optional and nightclubs are full of alcohol and drugs. Makes no sense but doesn't affect me.
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Post by pirate on Jul 19, 2021 17:09:17 GMT
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Post by pirate on Jul 19, 2021 17:09:36 GMT
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 19, 2021 17:14:02 GMT
Well if that is the case then unfortunately my season ticket will be going in the bin. Seems a bit too much like coercion to me but I’m sticking to my guns on this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 17:18:23 GMT
Well if that is the case then unfortunately my season ticket will be going in the bin. Seems a bit too much like coercion to me but I’m sticking to my guns on this one. It's shocking. Surely now even those of you who are vaxxed etc can see that this is wrong. If they were going to make it impossible to avoid, why not make it compulsory in the first place? By making it a choice you are giving people exactly that. Now it is nothing short of coercion and blackmail which is bang out of order. This could get ugly.
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Post by southbristolgas on Jul 19, 2021 17:19:57 GMT
Well if that is the case then unfortunately my season ticket will be going in the bin. Seems a bit too much like coercion to me but I’m sticking to my guns on this one. I'm with you on this one.
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Post by gassince1957 on Jul 19, 2021 17:21:35 GMT
My impression was that the press conference comments about the additional rule to come into force in September were related to nightclubs and, possibly, theatres. The point being made is that too many 18-30s have not come forward for vaccination and I felt the idea was to force them into it by taking away the activity they (allegedly) like best. It's a difficult one for the government, do nothing and they are accused of being slapdash, enforce things a bit and they are totalitarian.
Also, as Boris pointed out, many countries will not allow entry without proof of double vaccination. Again, this will adversely affect the 18 to 30s if they can't go to Ibiza etc.
If the comment relates to any indoor venue, then the bars at the Mem would have restricted access, pubs likewise and even churches, hence I believe it is about nightclubs only.
Besides, if Starmer and co are correct, we'll have another lockdown before September anyway!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 19, 2021 17:22:26 GMT
Well if that is the case then unfortunately my season ticket will be going in the bin. Seems a bit too much like coercion to me but I’m sticking to my guns on this one. It's shocking. Surely now even those of you who are vaxxed etc can see that this is wrong. If they were going to make it impossible to avoid, why not make it compulsory in the first place? By making it a choice you are giving people exactly that. Now it is nothing short of coercion and blackmail which is bang out of order. This could get ugly. On the plus side, it will encourage more people to get the vaccine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 17:25:25 GMT
It's shocking. Surely now even those of you who are vaxxed etc can see that this is wrong. If they were going to make it impossible to avoid, why not make it compulsory in the first place? By making it a choice you are giving people exactly that. Now it is nothing short of coercion and blackmail which is bang out of order. This could get ugly. On the plus side, it will encourage more people to get the vaccine. "Encourage" is the issue here. So yes it will force people to do what they had previously chosen not to. I don't expect you to have any balance whatsoever so best if we just leave it tbh.
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Post by gassince1957 on Jul 19, 2021 17:26:07 GMT
BYW, here's the BBC report which implies nightclubs only:
Covid passports for nightclubs "an absolute shambles" Nightclub owners are reacting angrily to news that Covid passports will be made mandatory in their venues from the end of September.
Michael Kill, CEO of the Night Time Industries Association, says so-called "freedom day" for night clubs "lasted around 17 hours" and the situation is "an absolute shambles".
He said only a week ago Health Secretary Sajid Javid said vaccine passports would not be compulsory.
And he says night clubs that have been planning for reopening for months will now have to make more changes to the way they operate.
80% of nightclubs have said they do not want to implement Covid passports, he adds, because they are worrying it will be hard to enforce and put customers off going clubbing spontaneously.
The new rules put them "at a competitive disadvantage with pubs and bars that aren’t subject to the same restrictions and yet provide similar environments" he adds.
“The government’s own report into vaccine passports found they were more trouble than they’re worth – so what could possibly explain the about-turn, just as millions across the UK experience their first taste of a night out in a year and a half…?”
Ironic that the bloke in charge of the nigh time industry is called Michael Kill!
So it won't apply to football matches or to the bars at The Mem. (Not yet anyway)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 17:29:14 GMT
BYW, here's the BBC report which implies nightclubs only: Covid passports for nightclubs "an absolute shambles" Nightclub owners are reacting angrily to news that Covid passports will be made mandatory in their venues from the end of September. Michael Kill, CEO of the Night Time Industries Association, says so-called "freedom day" for night clubs "lasted around 17 hours" and the situation is "an absolute shambles". He said only a week ago Health Secretary Sajid Javid said vaccine passports would not be compulsory. And he says night clubs that have been planning for reopening for months will now have to make more changes to the way they operate. 80% of nightclubs have said they do not want to implement Covid passports, he adds, because they are worrying it will be hard to enforce and put customers off going clubbing spontaneously. The new rules put them "at a competitive disadvantage with pubs and bars that aren’t subject to the same restrictions and yet provide similar environments" he adds. “The government’s own report into vaccine passports found they were more trouble than they’re worth – so what could possibly explain the about-turn, just as millions across the UK experience their first taste of a night out in a year and a half…?” Ironic that the bloke in charge of the nigh time industry is called Michael Kill! So it won't apply to football matches or to the bars at The Mem. (Not yet anyway) It will eventually. This whole thing is transparent.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 19, 2021 17:29:16 GMT
On the plus side, it will encourage more people to get the vaccine. "Encourage" is the issue here. So yes it will force people to do what they had previously chosen not to. I don't expect you to have any balance whatsoever so best if we just leave it tbh. Yes the "I won't be told what to do" brigade and conspiracists etc will not be happy. People who wish well for them and their loved ones will be accepting of it, if not pleased.
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Post by pirate on Jul 19, 2021 17:29:49 GMT
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Post by herbertblake on Jul 19, 2021 17:30:05 GMT
It's your civic duty to get protection for both yourself, family and others in society you are on contact with.
Refusal is not an option of getting a trustworthy life saving vaccine. Keep unvaccinated people away from venues.
Anyone turning down an opportunity of a free jab should not be treated in hospital if they catch covid. Harsh but NHS has to treat the citizens awaiting hip,knee, cancer and other ops not spend their time on those who clog up beds in hospital because they refuse can't be bothered to be vaccinated in my view. The NHS has better things to concentrate on saving lives and improving the health of its responsible citizens.
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