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Post by warehamgas on Jul 19, 2021 18:20:52 GMT
What happens if people need refreshments? They can take their masks off? Or can they not be sold? In which case everyone who doesn’t want to wear a mask buys a drink and looks after it for 90 mins to evade the rules. FFS just cut a hole in your mask and use a straw. Haven’t read the whole thread so someone might have answered this but FWIW I’ve been to 7 days of socially distanced cricket in Taunton and getting a drink no problem. When sat in seats people have been able to take masks off when walking around to get beers/drinks you wear a mask and take it off when you get back. Seemed to work ok without riots or people having a wobbly. I know football is different but not a problem that can’t be solved. UTG!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 19, 2021 18:21:06 GMT
There are consequences both in having the vaccine and not having it. For me the risks of not having it far outweighs the risks of potential side effects. I had it not just to protect myself but, due to the virulent nature, my family too. It's not a risk I can just reserve for me, it has profound implications for others too. If you choose not to have it, that's your choice and I still think you are wrong, but please choose not to have it for genuine reasons and don't fall for unsubstantiated rumours, hyperbole or scare stories. Definitely agree with that last bit. Biden was spot on the other day.
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2021 18:21:30 GMT
It's only worrying for those who were paranoid already and will use this as justification of their paranoia. I’m not paranoid and so are thousands of others that don’t want this vaccine , can’t keep tearing people with the same brush. It is very worrying that this is being pushed onto people but like I said , me , my wife and my kids will never be taking it so we’ll have to see how it all pans out , if I’m unable to attend football , I won’t , if I can’t attend a pub , I won’t ( fortunately my family have their own pub so that won’t be a big issue) Given your kids the MMR vaccine, smallpox, polio, or TB? Or are you choosing to risk their lives with those diseases as well?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 18:22:21 GMT
It will never go away. Partly because it arrived in strange circumstances and nobody knows the truth. It mutates. The vaccine doesn't work well enough to eradicate it. Perfect tool to control people, as we have seen over the past 18 months. It will make a shed load of cash for Pharma and the main online players in retail. What happens if everyone is vaccinated but we still get spikes and waves? Repeat lockdowns? Boosters? Bubbles? Masks forever? Those countries without vaccines will be rid of this before us. Just like malaria. Those countries without the malaria vaccine clearly have lower mortality rates don’t they. Oh hang on, no they don’t. That’s why you have the vaccine before going to malaria risk areas. COVID is currently a potentially fatal disease to all sectors of the population. Hopefully a combination of vaccines and a developed immunity will make it a less dangerous disease. When that happens it could become like the flu - dangerous to a few with underlying health conditions but manageable on the whole for society. But until that happens everyone should do all they can to keep themselves, their family, their friends and everybody else safe. And 90% of scientific research says get the vaccine. If you are going to compare it to malaria. Please do a full comparison. Completely different btw. Yes, I have had plenty of anti malaria treatments.
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2021 18:23:09 GMT
I’m reminded of this that I saw some time ago on Twitter: "I don't need the vaccine," they said while enjoying life without polio, tetanus, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, rubella, measles, whooping cough, the mumps, smallpox, diphtheria, rabies, rotavirus, pneumococcal disease, HPV, meningococcal disease, shingles and a bunch of 1800s stuff Exactly
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Post by shawyblue on Jul 19, 2021 18:23:16 GMT
Good, I wouldn’t want to attend and stand next to anti-vaxxers. People who are selfish by not taking the vaccine need to learn that their actions will have consequences. The rest of us? All vaxxed up, healthy and enjoying the footy. 😅👍 Crack on then , like I said , I feel that strongly about it that I’m willing to not attend football matches , I’m not ‘vaxxed up’ and I’m also fit and healthy. I’m also not selfish , you don’t know me so don’t make assumptions , 👍 If you’re not getting the vaccine that’s all I need to know. One word, selfish. I really hope those around you don’t suffer from your actions but I fear it’s a succinct possibility. When/If they do, it’ll be because of you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 18:24:46 GMT
I’m not paranoid and so are thousands of others that don’t want this vaccine , can’t keep tearing people with the same brush. It is very worrying that this is being pushed onto people but like I said , me , my wife and my kids will never be taking it so we’ll have to see how it all pans out , if I’m unable to attend football , I won’t , if I can’t attend a pub , I won’t ( fortunately my family have their own pub so that won’t be a big issue) Given your kids the MMR vaccine, smallpox, polio, or TB? Or are you choosing to risk their lives with those diseases as well? It took them 20+ years to successfully develop a polio vaccine.
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Post by shawyblue on Jul 19, 2021 18:24:59 GMT
Good, I wouldn’t want to attend and stand next to anti-vaxxers. People who are selfish by not taking the vaccine need to learn that their actions will have consequences. The rest of us? All vaxxed up, healthy and enjoying the footy. 😅👍 Are you joking? You can still catch it, pass it on and die. Plus, you won't enjoy the footy. A. Its rovers and we're sh**e. B. It will be disrupted due to covid. Unleash the anti vaxxers into the mix and rates will be sky high. So bar them, which is what they’ve thankfully done. I enjoy going to Rovers, even if they’re sh**, it’s the experience and the experience will be better knowing anti-vaxxers won’t be there.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 19, 2021 18:25:30 GMT
Original article suggests that big events have problems with internet signal when everyone arrives at the ground and tries to pull theirs up. So getting a paper copy is not a bad shout. Yes it’s a good idea. I’ve got a paper copy which I carry about with me. But I’ll have to do it again when it runs out 30 days after issued. Just get another one I presume. UTG!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Jul 19, 2021 18:25:35 GMT
It will never go away. Partly because it arrived in strange circumstances and nobody knows the truth. It mutates. The vaccine doesn't work well enough to eradicate it. Perfect tool to control people, as we have seen over the past 18 months. It will make a shed load of cash for Pharma and the main online players in retail. What happens if everyone is vaccinated but we still get spikes and waves? Repeat lockdowns? Boosters? Bubbles? Masks forever? Those countries without vaccines will be rid of this before us. Just like malaria. Those countries without the malaria vaccine clearly have lower mortality rates don’t they. Oh hang on, no they don’t. That’s why you have the vaccine before going to malaria risk areas. COVID is currently a potentially fatal disease to all sectors of the population. Hopefully a combination of vaccines and a developed immunity will make it a less dangerous disease. When that happens it could become like the flu - dangerous to a few with underlying health conditions but manageable on the whole for society. But until that happens everyone should do all they can to keep themselves, their family, their friends and everybody else safe. And 90% of scientific research says get the vaccine. I've heard plenty of good reasons to get the vaccine, but rather tellingly no good reasons opposed to it. I guess it's just based on strange (in this case) principles eg "nobody tells me what to do to my body" mentality?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 19, 2021 18:26:05 GMT
Are you joking? You can still catch it, pass it on and die. Plus, you won't enjoy the footy. A. Its rovers and we're sh**e. B. It will be disrupted due to covid. Unleash the anti vaxxers into the mix and rates will be sky high. So bar them, which is what they’ve thankfully done. I enjoy going to Rovers, even if they’re sh**, it’s the experience and the experience will be better knowing anti-vaxxers won’t be there. I like the cut of your jib young Shawy.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 19, 2021 18:26:24 GMT
Given your kids the MMR vaccine, smallpox, polio, or TB? Or are you choosing to risk their lives with those diseases as well? It took them 20+ years to successfully develop a polio vaccine. how much funding and how many people working on it? Just like your Malaria point, do a full comparison or dont make the comparison.
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Post by shawyblue on Jul 19, 2021 18:26:36 GMT
I’m not paranoid and so are thousands of others that don’t want this vaccine , can’t keep tearing people with the same brush. It is very worrying that this is being pushed onto people but like I said , me , my wife and my kids will never be taking it so we’ll have to see how it all pans out , if I’m unable to attend football , I won’t , if I can’t attend a pub , I won’t ( fortunately my family have their own pub so that won’t be a big issue) Given your kids the MMR vaccine, smallpox, polio, or TB? Or are you choosing to risk their lives with those diseases as well? Feel for his wife and kids, letting the uneducated fool put them in danger by not taking the vaccine.
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Post by miltongas on Jul 19, 2021 18:27:07 GMT
I’m reminded of this that I saw some time ago on Twitter: "I don't need the vaccine," they said while enjoying life without polio, tetanus, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, rubella, measles, whooping cough, the mumps, smallpox, diphtheria, rabies, rotavirus, pneumococcal disease, HPV, meningococcal disease, shingles and a bunch of 1800s stuff How long did it take them to design, test and deploy vaccines for these? I doubt it was 6 months. In a newly industrial society. With limited resources and much more basic scientific equipment. Not like today with numerous groups/universities working with the latest technology driven by computers.
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2021 18:28:19 GMT
Just like malaria. Those countries without the malaria vaccine clearly have lower mortality rates don’t they. Oh hang on, no they don’t. That’s why you have the vaccine before going to malaria risk areas. COVID is currently a potentially fatal disease to all sectors of the population. Hopefully a combination of vaccines and a developed immunity will make it a less dangerous disease. When that happens it could become like the flu - dangerous to a few with underlying health conditions but manageable on the whole for society. But until that happens everyone should do all they can to keep themselves, their family, their friends and everybody else safe. And 90% of scientific research says get the vaccine. If you are going to compare it to malaria. Please do a full comparison. Completely different btw. Yes, I have had plenty of anti malaria treatments. Whats the full comparison then? As far as I know (could be wrong) there is no effective vaccine for malaria, just treatment therapies post infection. But hang on, I believe the same folks at Oxford are trialling a vaccine for malaria and the initial results are encouraging. So what then, dont get vaccinated with that vaccine because you will turn into a wasp?
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Post by eastgas on Jul 19, 2021 18:28:38 GMT
It will never go away. Partly because it arrived in strange circumstances and nobody knows the truth. It mutates. The vaccine doesn't work well enough to eradicate it. Perfect tool to control people, as we have seen over the past 18 months. It will make a shed load of cash for Pharma and the main online players in retail. What happens if everyone is vaccinated but we still get spikes and waves? Repeat lockdowns? Boosters? Bubbles? Masks forever? Those countries without vaccines will be rid of this before us. Just like malaria. Those countries without the malaria vaccine clearly have lower mortality rates don’t they. Oh hang on, no they don’t. That’s why you have the vaccine before going to malaria risk areas. COVID is currently a potentially fatal disease to all sectors of the population. Hopefully a combination of vaccines and a developed immunity will make it a less dangerous disease. When that happens it could become like the flu - dangerous to a few with underlying health conditions but manageable on the whole for society. But until that happens everyone should do all they can to keep themselves, their family, their friends and everybody else safe. And 90% of scientific research says get the vaccine. No COVID was downgraded from a HCID back in March of 2020. You say become like the flu and only dangerous to a few with underlying medical conditions and the elderly, can you tell me how that isn’t true currently?
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Post by shawyblue on Jul 19, 2021 18:28:38 GMT
Good, I wouldn’t want to attend and stand next to anti-vaxxers. People who are selfish by not taking the vaccine need to learn that their actions will have consequences. The rest of us? All vaxxed up, healthy and enjoying the footy. 😅👍 Some of the comments on this thread are embarrassing If you’re referring to the comments by people scraping the barrel to find reasons we all shouldn’t take vaccines then sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 18:29:31 GMT
Crack on then , like I said , I feel that strongly about it that I’m willing to not attend football matches , I’m not ‘vaxxed up’ and I’m also fit and healthy. I’m also not selfish , you don’t know me so don’t make assumptions , 👍 If you’re not getting the vaccine that’s all I need to know. One word, selfish. I really hope those around you don’t suffer from your actions but I fear it’s a succinct possibility. When/If they do, it’ll be because of you. There's alot of selfish people around. I thought I was an all round good guy but apparently not! Ah well.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 18:30:21 GMT
Given your kids the MMR vaccine, smallpox, polio, or TB? Or are you choosing to risk their lives with those diseases as well? Feel for his wife and kids, letting the uneducated fool put them in danger by not taking the vaccine. Out of order.
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2021 18:31:11 GMT
Given your kids the MMR vaccine, smallpox, polio, or TB? Or are you choosing to risk their lives with those diseases as well? It took them 20+ years to successfully develop a polio vaccine. Yep, and the average random access memory for computers was about 20 bytes. Today my phone has 12gigabytes. Dont forget to tie your horse up.
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