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Post by gonzales on Jul 19, 2021 20:25:48 GMT
Might have to check with the other mods but I believe both GGMI and Shawyblue have now been banned. Oh dear what has GGMI done now? Apologies in advance for not keeping up with all 37 pages of this, there’s enough of it everywhere on the internet. Poor blue, well bloody said mate and I will be paraphrasing that for the next few months but hopefully not much longer than that!
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 19, 2021 20:28:06 GMT
Don’t think there’s any need to talk to me in that manner , everyone else is keeping it friendly and you start lowering the tone, no need for it. Might have to check with the other mods but I believe both GGMI and Shawyblue have now been banned. It’s ok , I’m a big boy I can take it. As you know I was bang out of order towards officer barbrady a while back, we’re all guilty of getting a bit heated at times on here particularly regarding this subject , GGMI is a nice lad , I’m not too familiar with Chuck Norris but I’m sure his heart is in the right place and I’d hate to see them banned
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Post by alanrg on Jul 19, 2021 20:29:06 GMT
Noticed a apology from Professor Vallance the 65 per cent in hospital have not been vaccinated
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Post by eastgas on Jul 19, 2021 20:30:15 GMT
I reckon locking the thread would be best, it’s gone off topic of rovers and we have enough of this division and drivel in out daily lives without it taking over a football forum too
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2021 20:32:04 GMT
So lets deep dive into this. These are the facts around polio (to choose one for comparison) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccineNow, as a baby boomer I had both of those variants whilst at junior school in Knowle. The facilities within which those vaccines were developed are prehistoric compared to whats available now. Hence this timeline "In 1947, Salk accepted a professorship in the School of Medicine at the University of Pittsburgh. It was there that he undertook a project to determine the number of different types of poliovirus, starting in 1948. For the next seven years, Salk devoted himself towards developing a vaccine against polio. Salk was immediately hailed as a "miracle worker" when the vaccine's success was first made public in April 1955" Then later In 1963, Salk founded the Salk Institute for Biological Studies in La Jolla, California, which is today a center for medical and scientific research. He continued to conduct research and publish books in his later years, focusing in his last years on the search for a vaccine against HIV. Salk also campaigned vigorously for mandatory vaccination throughout the rest of his life, calling the universal vaccination of children against disease a "moral commitment" So, going back to your point about timeline as a reason to doubt the current offer for covid, I am sure you can accept the technical facilities available to current researchers? Facilities which would have significantly improved the timelines for that (Polio) vaccine development. The only I knew as a kid growing up in the 50s and 60s is I was unaware of any of my age group contracting polio and dying. Not one. I hope, if you choose not to accept the covid vaccines available to you, you, or your kids, can look back and say the same thing. As Salk said, a moral commitment indeed. Thanks for this. There is more to it than facilities although that is completely valid. I am not a scientist or a doctor btw. These things take time for other reasons such as findings from samples. The scientists will be learning the effects of the vax for a while as the findings come in. Some of these results could take a while to manifest and there will be amendments to the medicine as there are with seasonal flu shots. I did like the words from Salk, but I read that as his commitment, not that of the subjects.. One last try. It seems to me that you and others are looking for absolute certainty. However you are correct in that knowledge will accumulate as the efficacy and potential other positives / negatives become apparent over time. But that knowledge will not be available if we dont have mass vaccination. I had the polio injection in about 1958 or 59 and the drop on sugar cube a couple of years later as a booster. I am sure we were, our parents, told not asked. Given that the vaccine for polio was only announced in 1955 we must have been guinea pigs in reality, but look at the result. So, in closing, it does seem to me that some are happy for others to take the risk, and happy (in reality) to risk the lives of others by infecting them, due to not being vaccinated. Each to their own but thats not a stance I could live with. Take it easy
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 19, 2021 20:36:04 GMT
Might have to check with the other mods but I believe both GGMI and Shawyblue have now been banned. It’s ok , I’m a big boy I can take it. As you know I was bang out of order towards officer barbrady a while back, we’re all guilty of getting a bit heated at times on here particularly regarding this subject , GGMI is a nice lad , I’m not too familiar with Chuck Norris but I’m sure his heart is in the right place and I’d hate to see them banned It's not as if he's been banned for his opinions tonight. He's been banned for being a WUM, creating fake accounts and repeatedly being a nuisance despite being asked not to time and time again over a number of years. He has come back off a short cooling off ban and thought an appropriate way to respond to that was to create fake accounts and deliberately attempt to provoke posters with an alternate view to himself.
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2021 20:37:21 GMT
I went to Knowle Park School between 1964-68. Were you there then? Young 'un I left in 1963, as I graduated to that "doyen" of educational establishments, Hengrove Comprehensive. If your family lived around there I might have known them. Surname?
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 19, 2021 20:38:47 GMT
It’s ok , I’m a big boy I can take it. As you know I was bang out of order towards officer barbrady a while back, we’re all guilty of getting a bit heated at times on here particularly regarding this subject , GGMI is a nice lad , I’m not too familiar with Chuck Norris but I’m sure his heart is in the right place and I’d hate to see them banned It's not as if he's been banned for his opinions tonight. He's been banned for being a WUM, creating fake accounts and repeatedly being a nuisance despite being asked not to time and time again over a number of years. He has come back off a short cooling off ban and thought an appropriate way to respond to that was to create fake accounts and deliberately attempt to provoke posters with an alternate view to himself. I didn’t know that , thanks for the reply 👍
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Post by oldie on Jul 19, 2021 20:39:13 GMT
It’s ok , I’m a big boy I can take it. As you know I was bang out of order towards officer barbrady a while back, we’re all guilty of getting a bit heated at times on here particularly regarding this subject , GGMI is a nice lad , I’m not too familiar with Chuck Norris but I’m sure his heart is in the right place and I’d hate to see them banned It's not as if he's been banned for his opinions tonight. He's been banned for being a WUM, creating fake accounts and repeatedly being a nuisance despite being asked not to time and time again over a number of years. He has come back off a short cooling off ban and thought an appropriate way to respond to that was to create fake accounts and deliberately attempt to provoke posters with an alternate view to himself. Really? Do people actually do that...jesus christ🤔
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Post by axegas on Jul 19, 2021 20:55:35 GMT
It’s ok , I’m a big boy I can take it. As you know I was bang out of order towards officer barbrady a while back, we’re all guilty of getting a bit heated at times on here particularly regarding this subject , GGMI is a nice lad , I’m not too familiar with Chuck Norris but I’m sure his heart is in the right place and I’d hate to see them banned It's not as if he's been banned for his opinions tonight. He's been banned for being a WUM, creating fake accounts and repeatedly being a nuisance despite being asked not to time and time again over a number of years. He has come back off a short cooling off ban and thought an appropriate way to respond to that was to create fake accounts and deliberately attempt to provoke posters with an alternate view to himself. Just to add to this, it’s never nice to ban someone and we as mods have had an unbelievable amount of patience to put up with GGMI’s antics over the years. However, when you’ve just come off a ban for being a WUM and proceed to create fake accounts to troll people, well let’s just say it’s not going to end well.
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 19, 2021 21:03:27 GMT
No I was referring to comments like yours. Self righteous nonsense. Not everyone that is not taking a vaccine for the moment is down to conspiracy theories and some of the other ridiculous reasons I’ve seen and heard lately. I’ve yet see a reason on here that suggests otherwise. So I stand by my comments and those of Gas Go Marching In absolutely 100%. Honestly, whatever you do or don’t do, don’t base it on stuff you read “on here.” Nobody’s got a scooby-do about anything in reality! Blimey, if you’re looking for what to do in big stuff go read up on it elsewhere don’t come on here. 🤔 UTG!
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Jul 19, 2021 21:15:13 GMT
I’ve yet see a reason on here that suggests otherwise. So I stand by my comments and those of Gas Go Marching In absolutely 100%. Honestly, whatever you do or don’t do, don’t base it on stuff you read “on here.” Nobody’s got a scooby-do about anything in reality! Blimey, if you’re looking for what to do in big stuff go read up on it elsewhere don’t come on here. 🤔 UTG! Good advice Wareham, but by the sound of it, it’s just GGMI in disguise! 🤣
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Post by adrian301 on Jul 19, 2021 21:28:00 GMT
Well if that is the case then unfortunately my season ticket will be going in the bin. Seems a bit too much like coercion to me but I’m sticking to my guns on this one. Yep, me too. Thing is I was asking about restrictions/conditions before ordering, and the safety officer was of the opinion there wouldn't be any. So I renewed. Goes to show this is being imposed, rather than BRFC as a business deciding it's own policy. I will ask for a refund though, as the goal mouth has been moved (excuse the pun). What a sad turn of events, when people with no symptoms and a belief in their own immune system are barred from entry. Okebourne, I'd just like to say you've stood your ground with great integrity during this debate.
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Post by james246 on Jul 19, 2021 21:28:30 GMT
Of course they treat them with the care they need but these same people are causing hurt to others by what I see as their selfish actions. Can you explain in what way someone who hasn’t had a vaccine is selfish? If the person who hasn’t chosen to have had their vaccine, (many reasons people will not put untested, unknown chemicals into their body) but follow every rule to ensure themselves and others are safe what is the issue? People’s anger and self righteous opinions on both sides of the argument is not going to do this country and it’s people any good, if things continue at the rate it’s going I can see huge societal problems arising which will not end well You should direct this question to the Queen - she said those that refused the vaccine were selfish
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 21:42:00 GMT
It’s ok , I’m a big boy I can take it. As you know I was bang out of order towards officer barbrady a while back, we’re all guilty of getting a bit heated at times on here particularly regarding this subject , GGMI is a nice lad , I’m not too familiar with Chuck Norris but I’m sure his heart is in the right place and I’d hate to see them banned It's not as if he's been banned for his opinions tonight. He's been banned for being a WUM, creating fake accounts and repeatedly being a nuisance despite being asked not to time and time again over a number of years. He has come back off a short cooling off ban and thought an appropriate way to respond to that was to create fake accounts and deliberately attempt to provoke posters with an alternate view to himself. Christ! What a shame.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 19, 2021 21:58:55 GMT
It's not as if he's been banned for his opinions tonight. He's been banned for being a WUM, creating fake accounts and repeatedly being a nuisance despite being asked not to time and time again over a number of years. He has come back off a short cooling off ban and thought an appropriate way to respond to that was to create fake accounts and deliberately attempt to provoke posters with an alternate view to himself. Christ! What a shame. When one poster makes the mods more work than he's worth, it's only going to end one way. You have no idea the number of friendly pms, begging pms and threatening pms some posters have had over years. I literally was talking to him in pm as he was banned. In all honesty he has had more slack than all other posters put together.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Jul 19, 2021 22:18:13 GMT
I will miss that loveable rogue.
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Post by Gaswood on Jul 19, 2021 22:24:28 GMT
I will miss that loveable rogue. He’ll be back with another profile!
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Post by straighouttabristol on Jul 19, 2021 22:54:30 GMT
Did you know the Romans invented a cement that gets stronger in water overtime that we can’t make anymore even though we have better science now than all those years ago
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Post by CostaBlancaGas on Jul 19, 2021 23:01:40 GMT
I went to Knowle Park School between 1964-68. Were you there then? Young 'un I left in 1963, as I graduated to that "doyen" of educational establishments, Hengrove Comprehensive. If your family lived around there I might have known them. Surname? I went to Hengrove too! 68-72. Sir name Ward christian name John! No relation to an old manager!!!
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