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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 18:43:18 GMT
1500 covid vaccine deaths in the uk and counting... and those figures havent been artificially hammed up.
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Post by orgasmic on Jul 20, 2021 18:44:02 GMT
1500 covid vaccine deaths in the uk and counting... and those figures havent been artificially hammed up. Source?
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Post by bs16gashead on Jul 20, 2021 18:44:30 GMT
Hope it is 14/16k
We might get some (unvaccinated) fans who chose us over the other lot đ
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Post by miltongas on Jul 20, 2021 18:46:17 GMT
1500 covid vaccine deaths in the uk and counting... and those figures havent been artificially hammed up. Source? Brian. Off Facebook.
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Post by bs16gashead on Jul 20, 2021 18:46:41 GMT
1500 covid vaccine deaths in the uk and counting... and those figures havent been artificially hammed up. Youâve missed a few noughts off?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 20, 2021 18:47:53 GMT
So the well tested, but yearly tweaked vax for the flu (which is a coronavirus) is OK because it has good results and low side effects. But the variant that treats erm... coronavirus isn't alright? There is cognitive dissonance going on somewhere. Sadly, I'm not allowed to argue your point as per forum rules. I don't get jabbed for flu either so it doesn't bother me tbh mate. Fair enough:)
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Post by curlywurly on Jul 20, 2021 19:12:29 GMT
Apologies if this has been posted before. Like many of us, I've taken a swipe at Cotterill in the past, but this is well worth a read and a watch:
BBC Sport - Steve Cotterill & Covid: 'I was frightened to go to sleep in case I didn't wake up'
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57887668
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Post by bluebiro on Jul 20, 2021 19:20:15 GMT
If the go down the route of a pcr test before entry that will add a fair bit onto the cost of a game
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 19:24:19 GMT
1500 covid vaccine deaths in the uk and counting... and those figures havent been artificially hammed up. Source? our government, see the yellow card reporting on the gov website, its not easy to find and you need to total it as of course they want to play it down/censor it. Here a snippet - The MHRA has received 456 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. Sorry 1470 then.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 20, 2021 19:38:36 GMT
Fair enough. Pirate isn't going to debate it though. This is to counter the uncertainty of covid vax testing period? Surely the revised flu jab is just a slight mod each time? The side effects and long-term risks will be known. It isn't compulsory either. So the well tested, but yearly tweaked vax for the flu (which is a coronavirus) is OK because it has good results and low side effects. But the variant that treats erm... coronavirus isn't alright? There is cognitive dissonance going on somewhere. Thanks Hugo that's my exact point
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 19:40:59 GMT
1500 covid vaccine deaths in the uk and counting... and those figures havent been artificially hammed up. Youâve missed a few noughts off? well maybe as these are played down and the others hammed up, also these are shortly after and covid is 28 days ffs, ive heard figures re actual covid led deaths that the true figure is less than 5% of the quoted figure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 19:53:19 GMT
So the well tested, but yearly tweaked vax for the flu (which is a coronavirus) is OK because it has good results and low side effects. But the variant that treats erm... coronavirus isn't alright? There is cognitive dissonance going on somewhere. Thanks Hugo that's my exact point What was your point sorry? The jabs are the same? Why didn't they make it compulsory if it is the answer to the woes? Perhaps one day on future it will be then everyone be can stop pointing fingers at eachother. Or it will just go away.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 20, 2021 19:59:22 GMT
Thanks Hugo that's my exact point What was your point sorry? The jabs are the same? Why didn't they make it compulsory if it is the answer to the woes? Perhaps one day on future it will be then everyone be can stop pointing fingers at eachother. Or it will just go away. And miss out on threads like this on Internet forums up and down the country. Are you mad?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 20, 2021 20:04:51 GMT
our government, see the yellow card reporting on the gov website, its not easy to find and you need to total it as of course they want to play it down/censor it. Here a snippet - The MHRA has received 456 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. Sorry 1470 then. So why didn't you quote the full article instead of just posting misinformation? The MHRA has received 456 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the vaccines has increased over the course of the campaigns and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths.
The expected benefits of the vaccines in preventing COVID-19 and serious complications associated with COVID-19 far outweigh any currently known side effects.
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 20, 2021 20:07:42 GMT
our government, see the yellow card reporting on the gov website, its not easy to find and you need to total it as of course they want to play it down/censor it. Here a snippet - The MHRA has received 456 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. Sorry 1470 then. Did you miss the whole paragraph? "The MHRA has received 456 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the vaccines has increased over the course of the campaigns and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths." www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 20, 2021 20:13:36 GMT
Youâve missed a few noughts off? well maybe as these are played down and the others hammed up, also these are shortly after and covid is 28 days ffs, ive heard figures re actual covid led deaths that the true figure is less than 5% of the quoted figure. More nonsense, "you've heard" should surely read "I've just made up something else up"?
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Post by oldie on Jul 20, 2021 20:14:33 GMT
our government, see the yellow card reporting on the gov website, its not easy to find and you need to total it as of course they want to play it down/censor it. Here a snippet - The MHRA has received 456 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. Sorry 1470 then. Did you miss the whole paragraph? "The MHRA has received 456 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the vaccines has increased over the course of the campaigns and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths." www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reportingIt seems to me that the anti vaxxers, whatever their reasons. Will distort and publicised stats to justify their position.
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Post by eastgas on Jul 20, 2021 20:35:58 GMT
Did you miss the whole paragraph? "The MHRA has received 456 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the vaccines has increased over the course of the campaigns and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths." www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reportingIt seems to me that the anti vaxxers, whatever their reasons. Will distort and publicised stats to justify their position. I agree that some people against vaccines may be distorting figures but isnât that true of both sides?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 20, 2021 20:39:23 GMT
It seems to me that the anti vaxxers, whatever their reasons. Will distort and publicised stats to justify their position. I agree that some people against vaccines may be distorting figures but isnât that true of both sides? Maybe, what examples did you have in mind?
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Post by stuart1974 on Jul 20, 2021 20:40:59 GMT
Did you miss the whole paragraph? "The MHRA has received 456 UK reports of suspected ADRs to the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine in which the patient died shortly after vaccination, 983 reports for the COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, 7 for the COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna and 24 where the brand of vaccine was unspecified. The majority of these reports were in elderly people or people with underlying illness. Usage of the vaccines has increased over the course of the campaigns and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths." www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reportingIt seems to me that the anti vaxxers, whatever their reasons. Will distort and publicised stats to justify their position. You mean like some of the memes posted on the Coronavirus thread in General Chat? đ¤
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