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Post by gregsy on Jul 25, 2021 10:30:12 GMT
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Post by bs16gashead on Jul 25, 2021 10:30:23 GMT
If Barton pleads not guilty then the trial isn't likely to take place until after the Stendel re-trial so it'll make little difference to the players he's signed, as they've already taken the risk he might leave. But what sort after striker will now want to join us if Barton remains in charge. Barton has been charged with assaulting his wife he surely cannot stay here. Suspension, garden leave or whatever. I think he has to be removed from the club pending the outcome. Totally agree. Heard the news when I’d had a few last night, had the night to think about it and I still can’t see how he can carry on. The great work that Lucy Ford and Caz May been doing with the her game too stuff promoting the club in a good light and then this guy is in charge of us doing that. It’s not tenable now in my opinion
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Post by eastgas on Jul 25, 2021 10:30:33 GMT
Surely we need to see the outcome before we jump to conclusions and Lynch the man?! Innocent until proven guilty is the way it usually works. It wouldn’t be like the police to have something wrong now would it? Especially in a high profile case. If proven guilty then I would want JB contract terminated immediately as this is one of the most hideous crimes someone could commit, but until then I will reserve judgement until I see the outcome of his trial.
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Post by scottleroc on Jul 25, 2021 10:31:18 GMT
Careful of what, I'm not the person charging him with assault by beating? Whether he's guilty of doing it is for the jury to decide, should he plead not guilty. I think a lot of people are getting carried away by the legal terminology here, so just to put a bit of perspective on it, I’m sure a lot of us as kids will have done things like walk up behind a mate and flick their earlobe, or give someone a bit of a shove in the back for “a bit of a laugh”? Well that’s actually enough to qualify as “Assault by beating”. I think everyone needs to calm the f**k down and wait to see what happens at court before jumping to conclusions. A lot of people seem to have already written him off as guilty before the case has even been heard or a shred of evidence produced for either side . . . Absolutely innocent before proven guilty in the eyes of the law. However, this will still create a huge reputation all damage problem for the club. That will stick whatever and he either pleads guilty and it ends quickly but he will be sacked or or he pleads not guilty and the case drags on for months. I also don’t think the CPS would press charges if he flicked her ear! Appreciate you were just making a point here though. Another point, if it is true, is that in addition to letting down his family, the club and the fans, he’s also let down all the back room staff he’s brought in. They have up’d sticks and moves south and now their livelihoods are at risk too. I’m not sure Clint Hill could or would step up. All things come to an end I suppose, not just good things so we will get through this whatever the outcome!😬
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 10:31:22 GMT
Careful of what, I'm not the person charging him with assault by beating? Whether he's guilty of doing it is for the jury to decide, should he plead not guilty. I think a lot of people are getting carried away by the legal terminology here, so just to put a bit of perspective on it, I’m sure a lot of us as kids will have done things like walk up behind a mate and flick their earlobe, or give someone a bit of a shove in the back for “a bit of a laugh”? Well that’s actually enough to qualify as “Assault by beating”. I think everyone needs to calm the f**k down and wait to see what happens at court before jumping to conclusions. A lot of people seem to have already written him off as guilty before the case has even been heard or a shred of evidence produced for either side . . . You're wasting your time mate - a lot of posters seem to be imagining a scenario which would have been dealt with via a charge for ABH or GBH.
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Post by cj on Jul 25, 2021 10:31:28 GMT
Can't be bothered to read everything. But the news is hardly surprising. Yeah not guilty until proven otherwise and all that but this is Joey Barton we are talking about. I knew this would happen when there was talk of him becoming our manager. I was shouted down once he became our manager and a few of us was not treated very nice as a result. Well some of you on here deserve this news. A massive 'I told you so' from me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 10:32:51 GMT
True, but that’s hollow when it comes to domestic violence as other posters have pointed out. I was just stating a fact ,gas , I wasn’t making a morale judgement , I know how it works , I have unfortunately been in that position . So sorry hear that - an awful thing for you to have to experienced. x
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Post by kampucheagas on Jul 25, 2021 10:36:30 GMT
Can you imagine the torrent of abuse our boys are going to get away from home if Barton is still in the dug out??
Our lads better have some back-bone.
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Post by bs16gashead on Jul 25, 2021 10:37:38 GMT
Can you imagine the torrent of abuse our boys are going to get away from home if Barton is still in the dug out?? Our lads better have some back-bone. Yeah bloody hell 🤣
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jul 25, 2021 10:37:50 GMT
I was just stating a fact ,gas , I wasn’t making a morale judgement , I know how it works , I have unfortunately been in that position . So sorry hear that - an awful thing for you to have to experienced. x Thanks Tilly , long time ago , and I did not involve the police , neighbour did . All in the past , we move on and hopefully learn. Utg 💙
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 25, 2021 10:37:55 GMT
This incident looks serious, and not good for the club since quite a few of the new players probably only came to us because Joey was here. There is now a very real possibility the manager will leave in the near future, if so I would replace him with one of the current staff, rather than appoint someone new who may not work well with the people we have in place. I agree with you, but bear in mind that's if any of them want the job. Yes, they all appear a unit together don’t they? With JB as top dog. All for one and one for all type stuff. UTG!
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Post by bluegas on Jul 25, 2021 10:38:42 GMT
The mystery deepens! Only the Sun says it's his wife. The police refer to "a woman" and the BBC carefully stick to this. And the incident took place in Kew, not Widnes. All needs a bit of clarification, but we should get that tomorrow morning - I assume.
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Post by gregsy on Jul 25, 2021 10:39:15 GMT
Can you imagine the torrent of abuse our boys are going to get away from home if Barton is still in the dug out?? Our lads better have some back-bone. I think this is why they need to suspend him ASAP.... I don't think 'morale' will be great at the Mem either.....
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 25, 2021 10:39:45 GMT
On the brightside, at least we won't have to pay him off! AND we might actually get a football manager who isn't totally and utterly incompetent... Tisdale is available, he did quiet well in this league Me, i would go for the Torquay manager, good record and has plenty of contacts at our level (league 2/national league) and no criminal history that we know about Isn't being City's previous boss a bit criminal? Joking aside I can't think of any suitable candidates to sort this mess out. Most clubs aren't going to let their manager leave when he's just signed a squad of new players and anybody out of a job is still unemployed for a reason.
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Post by bluegas on Jul 25, 2021 10:43:57 GMT
I agree with you, but bear in mind that's if any of them want the job. Yes, they all appear a unit together don’t they? With JB as top dog. All for one and one for all type stuff. UTG! Yes - except that it's not likely Clint and Andy will be forming a management team with JB anywhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 10:45:10 GMT
The mystery deepens! Only the Sun says it's his wife. The police refer to "a woman" and the BBC carefully stick to this. And the incident took place in Kew, not Widnes. All needs a bit of clarification, but we should get that tomorrow morning - I assume. I'm not sure that the BBC uses terminology such as "wife" these days! I think the Bartons have a couple of family homes.
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Post by kruger on Jul 25, 2021 10:45:33 GMT
A sunderland friend of mine said to look at their forum, honestly a Bristol City fan has started a thread about Joey Barton on there. Because they are a nasty horrible scummy club they are now posting on other forums about us.
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Post by bluegas on Jul 25, 2021 10:46:37 GMT
Can you imagine the torrent of abuse our boys are going to get away from home if Barton is still in the dug out?? Our lads better have some back-bone. Away from home? I'd imagine JB's going to get a torrent of abuse AT home games.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 25, 2021 10:47:18 GMT
I think a lot of people are getting carried away by the legal terminology here, so just to put a bit of perspective on it, I’m sure a lot of us as kids will have done things like walk up behind a mate and flick their earlobe, or give someone a bit of a shove in the back for “a bit of a laugh”? Well that’s actually enough to qualify as “Assault by beating”. I think everyone needs to calm the f**k down and wait to see what happens at court before jumping to conclusions. A lot of people seem to have already written him off as guilty before the case has even been heard or a shred of evidence produced for either side . . . You're wasting your time mate - a lot of posters seem to be imagining a scenario which would have been dealt with via a charge for ABH or GBH. Surely the difference is the police involvement with a domestic dispute between husband and wife?
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Post by madgas on Jul 25, 2021 10:49:45 GMT
I didn't want JB based on footballing reasons. Thought there were better gettable names. When we appointed him- I was ok to with the argument that everyone deserves a second chance. Footballing wise- It appears he was not the correct choice. Relegation being the proof of that pudding. Albeit, perhaps he is the man to rebuild and go again. In fact, I am reasonably confident he could be.
At the time of his appointment and immediately before I didn't like the forum. I felt it was rammed with disrespect. Too many people defending the right of a second chance almost above suitability for the job.
I urge Gasheads to not be too trigger happy this weekend. Let's see how Monday plays out, remain calm and on this acqusation if guilty of the the implication the answer will be clear because:
1) No sporting, caveat. 2) Female victim. 3) During his rovers tenure.
Until Monday and after a deep breath, be extra careful with your posts.
Mods- good luck.
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