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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 17:48:53 GMT
To be fair I can’t help but agree. Everything he said about the squad including the profile of the squad he faced when BG lost his job chimes true with what I can see. Love the way he talks about the club why does he have to get himself into such messy situations. You say you love the way he talks about the club, but he's proven several times already that his word cannot be trusted. For example, he says after he starts that Hanlan can be a 20 goal a season striker, and that he was tracking him at Fleetwood. Later, he says and maintains that he wouldn't have taken ANY of our players at Fleetwood. Contradictory statements. A top manager gets the best out of their players. He could hardly have gotten less out of our players last season. The fact he didn't recruit them means very little. Our form deteriorated drastically after he arrived. He failed in his task to keep us up. It is as simple as that. He then went onto say that we'd be aiming for a title this season. He now says that we won't be performing to the required level until several months into the season. Always contradicting himself. How can you trust what he says? Agree. Lots of words but contradicts himself so often. The man's not my cup of tea.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 12, 2021 17:52:24 GMT
Bolton were bottom in December last season in league two and got promoted The lowest Bolton got in December was 16th, I believe. The lowest they got all season was 22nd and that was in September after losing their first three games. They were as low as 19th in February, though, so that was still quite impressive.
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Post by gregsy on Aug 12, 2021 17:54:17 GMT
Its all very well saying it will improve in the future.... But when is the future.... Today was the future 6 months ago....
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Post by Jomo on Aug 12, 2021 17:55:19 GMT
Lol, he now doesn't want to make bold claims about our prospects this season. Fair enough, I get that, but he should not have said we'll be going all out for the title after our relegation last season! He keeps making a rod for his own back with his motor mouth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 17:58:18 GMT
Interesting that it's Hanlon who wants to get out of the club not the other way around.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 12, 2021 18:03:54 GMT
Why do posters who clearly have a dislike of Barton listen to his interviews then just post about the negatives they've heard?
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Post by albaron on Aug 12, 2021 18:04:05 GMT
Rome wasn't built in a day.... Hmmmmmmm.... True, but the Mem was. No -- The Mem was built by the Romans.
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Post by Big Jock on Aug 12, 2021 18:08:46 GMT
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Post by somersetgas27 on Aug 12, 2021 18:09:32 GMT
Bolton were bottom in December last season in league two and got promoted The lowest Bolton got in December was 16th, I believe. The lowest they got all season was 22nd and that was in September after losing their first three games. They were as low as 19th in February, though, so that was still quite impressive. I've just taken a look at their results throughout the 2020-2021 season, it makes interesting reading. This is the win, draw, loss record broken down for each month (for all fixtures): Sept 5L; Oct 2W, 3D, 3L, Nov 5W, 1D, 1L; Dec 1W, 1D, 3L Jan 1W, 2D, 2L Feb 5W, 1D Mar 5W, 1D Apr 4W, 1D, 2L May 1W, 1L So their season took off from Feb onwards losing only 2 games out of 21; as was mentioned above they most of made some great signings in January!
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 12, 2021 18:15:29 GMT
Why do posters who clearly have a dislike of Barton listen to his interviews then just post about the negatives they've heard? I like Barton but not everything he says resonates with me, let's see where we are in 10 games time with his own players, I'm expecting some improvement Topper.
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 12, 2021 18:19:45 GMT
The lowest Bolton got in December was 16th, I believe. The lowest they got all season was 22nd and that was in September after losing their first three games. They were as low as 19th in February, though, so that was still quite impressive. I've just taken a look at their results throughout the 2020-2021 season, it makes interesting reading. This is the win, draw, loss record broken down for each month (for all fixtures): Sept 5L; Oct 2W, 3D, 3L, Nov 5W, 1D, 1L; Dec 1W, 1D, 3L Jan 1W, 2D, 2L Feb 5W, 1D Mar 5W, 1D Apr 4W, 1D, 2L May 1W, 1L So their season took off from Feb onwards losing only 2 games out of 21; as was mentioned above they most of made some great signings in January! Thanks for that very interesting. Crazy how they could be so low come feb and get promoted. There’s hope for us yet 🙏
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Post by olskooltoteender on Aug 12, 2021 18:22:13 GMT
Why do posters who clearly have a dislike of Barton listen to his interviews then just post about the negatives they've heard? Funny that, isn’t it? For example, when he was talking about last season’s team not being fit enough, he qualified it by saying that a lot of them weren’t fit enough to last a full 90-minute game, especially when we were having to play Tuesday-Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday week in, week out, and compounded by being in a battle to avoid relegation, the implication being that the cumulative toll on their bodies was greater than it might’ve otherwise been had they reached a higher level of fitness. That’s what I heard, but other people clearly didn’t interpret it that way . . .
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Post by gregsy on Aug 12, 2021 18:32:34 GMT
Why do posters who clearly have a dislike of Barton listen to his interviews then just post about the negatives they've heard? Funny that, isn’t it? For example, when he was talking about last season’s team not being fit enough, he qualified it by saying that a lot of them weren’t fit enough to last a full 90-minute game, especially when we were having to play Tuesday-Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday week in, week out, and compounded by being in a battle to avoid relegation, the implication being that the cumulative toll on their bodies was greater than it might’ve otherwise been had they reached a higher level of fitness. That’s what I heard, but other people clearly didn’t interpret it that way . . . But our last 6 games last season were: sat, sat, Tue, sat, sat, sat.... And we got 1 point....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 18:40:54 GMT
Funny that, isn’t it? For example, when he was talking about last season’s team not being fit enough, he qualified it by saying that a lot of them weren’t fit enough to last a full 90-minute game, especially when we were having to play Tuesday-Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday week in, week out, and compounded by being in a battle to avoid relegation, the implication being that the cumulative toll on their bodies was greater than it might’ve otherwise been had they reached a higher level of fitness. That’s what I heard, but other people clearly didn’t interpret it that way . . . But our last 6 games last season were: sat, sat, Tue, sat, sat, sat.... And we got 1 point.... Yes and we were a team devoid of confidence, missing a number of players (key players I’d argue) and were not fit ….. I watched every game last season and near enough in every match we seemed to fade badly towards the end of matches…..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 18:42:09 GMT
Funny that, isn’t it? For example, when he was talking about last season’s team not being fit enough, he qualified it by saying that a lot of them weren’t fit enough to last a full 90-minute game, especially when we were having to play Tuesday-Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday week in, week out, and compounded by being in a battle to avoid relegation, the implication being that the cumulative toll on their bodies was greater than it might’ve otherwise been had they reached a higher level of fitness. That’s what I heard, but other people clearly didn’t interpret it that way . . . But our last 6 games last season were: sat, sat, Tue, sat, sat, sat.... And we got 1 point.... This is the trouble with him and to an extent all football managers, they all say what suits them at that time. He speaks so much that he contradicts himself a lot. I’d like him to talk less and win more, that’s just me
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Post by matealotblue on Aug 12, 2021 18:47:16 GMT
I've just taken a look at their results throughout the 2020-2021 season, it makes interesting reading. This is the win, draw, loss record broken down for each month (for all fixtures): Sept 5L; Oct 2W, 3D, 3L, Nov 5W, 1D, 1L; Dec 1W, 1D, 3L Jan 1W, 2D, 2L Feb 5W, 1D Mar 5W, 1D Apr 4W, 1D, 2L May 1W, 1L So their season took off from Feb onwards losing only 2 games out of 21; as was mentioned above they most of made some great signings in January! Thanks for that very interesting. Crazy how they could be so low come feb and get promoted. There’s hope for us yet 🙏 And if my grey cell is working correctly (a big IF tbf...) I recall Southend doing something similar a few seasons ago. But the detail of it escapes me.
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Post by Gassy on Aug 12, 2021 18:59:45 GMT
Interesting that it's Hanlon who wants to get out of the club not the other way around. Did he actually say that?
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Post by yattongas on Aug 12, 2021 19:00:48 GMT
Just had a listen , I always get quite enthused when I hear him speak and start to believe.
Then we play and lose .
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Post by gregsy on Aug 12, 2021 19:01:10 GMT
But our last 6 games last season were: sat, sat, Tue, sat, sat, sat.... And we got 1 point.... This is the trouble with him and to an extent all football managers, they all say what suits them at that time. He speaks so much that he contradicts himself a lot. I’d like him to talk less and win more, that’s just me Those last 6 games we didn't even try, we capitulated, due to low morale. I can't believe fitness was the only reason.... We just wilted like an unwatered flower... Absolutely no fire at all....
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Post by yattongas on Aug 12, 2021 19:02:39 GMT
Interesting that it's Hanlon who wants to get out of the club not the other way around. Did he actually say that? Not in the interview I listened to .
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