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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 19:04:46 GMT
This is the trouble with him and to an extent all football managers, they all say what suits them at that time. He speaks so much that he contradicts himself a lot. I’d like him to talk less and win more, that’s just me Those last 6 games we didn't even try, we capitulated, due to low morale. I can't believe fitness was the only reason.... We just wilted like an unwatered flower... Absolutely no fire at all.... In his head though it won’t be a thing to do with that
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Post by Jomo on Aug 12, 2021 19:09:31 GMT
Why do posters who clearly have a dislike of Barton listen to his interviews then just post about the negatives they've heard? I don't actually dislike him, I never have. I just question his performance as our manager and I dislike the way he deflects blame away from himself for what has been a very bad tenure so far. I maintain that I actually want to hear what he has to say, as I have always done with every manager we've had. I also want him to be a success here, and I hope he turns us around. I just have serious doubts that he'll be able to do that. Would be delighted to be proven wrong.
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Post by aghast on Aug 12, 2021 19:13:58 GMT
To be fair I can’t help but agree. Everything he said about the squad including the profile of the squad he faced when BG lost his job chimes true with what I can see. Love the way he talks about the club why does he have to get himself into such messy situations. You say you love the way he talks about the club, but he's proven several times already that his word cannot be trusted. For example, he says after he starts that Hanlan can be a 20 goal a season striker, and that he was tracking him at Fleetwood. Later, he says and maintains that he wouldn't have taken ANY of our players at Fleetwood. Contradictory statements. A top manager gets the best out of their players. He could hardly have gotten less out of our players last season. The fact he didn't recruit them means very little. Our form deteriorated drastically after he arrived. He failed in his task to keep us up. It is as simple as that. He then went onto say that we'd be aiming for a title this season. He now says that we won't be performing to the required level until several months into the season. Always contradicting himself. How can you trust what he says? Joey Barton. The Guardian, Feb 21st. “Somebody, at some point, is going to get Rovers right, mobilise that passionate fan base and get the supporters travelling across the country pushing their team on to bigger and better things. I think I’m the man for it. I’m absolutely convinced it’s going to be this group of players we’ve got here and this group of coaches. I haven’t come here to take part, to be involved in the bottom end of the table, albeit that’s where we are at this moment in time. When I sat down with Wael, we spoke about his vision and I thought ‘I can’t miss this opportunity.’ I’m just so excited about what the future holds because it is about time Rovers had their day in the sun.” That went well then.
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Post by gregsy on Aug 12, 2021 19:22:14 GMT
You say you love the way he talks about the club, but he's proven several times already that his word cannot be trusted. For example, he says after he starts that Hanlan can be a 20 goal a season striker, and that he was tracking him at Fleetwood. Later, he says and maintains that he wouldn't have taken ANY of our players at Fleetwood. Contradictory statements. A top manager gets the best out of their players. He could hardly have gotten less out of our players last season. The fact he didn't recruit them means very little. Our form deteriorated drastically after he arrived. He failed in his task to keep us up. It is as simple as that. He then went onto say that we'd be aiming for a title this season. He now says that we won't be performing to the required level until several months into the season. Always contradicting himself. How can you trust what he says? Joey Barton. The Guardian, Feb 21st it is about time Rovers had their day in the sun. Perhaps he meant, it is about time rovers had their day when a story on their manager was published in the sun.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 12, 2021 19:27:02 GMT
You say you love the way he talks about the club, but he's proven several times already that his word cannot be trusted. For example, he says after he starts that Hanlan can be a 20 goal a season striker, and that he was tracking him at Fleetwood. Later, he says and maintains that he wouldn't have taken ANY of our players at Fleetwood. Contradictory statements. A top manager gets the best out of their players. He could hardly have gotten less out of our players last season. The fact he didn't recruit them means very little. Our form deteriorated drastically after he arrived. He failed in his task to keep us up. It is as simple as that. He then went onto say that we'd be aiming for a title this season. He now says that we won't be performing to the required level until several months into the season. Always contradicting himself. How can you trust what he says? Joey Barton. The Guardian, Feb 21st. “Somebody, at some point, is going to get Rovers right, mobilise that passionate fan base and get the supporters travelling across the country pushing their team on to bigger and better things. I think I’m the man for it. I’m absolutely convinced it’s going to be this group of players we’ve got here and this group of coaches. I haven’t come here to take part, to be involved in the bottom end of the table, albeit that’s where we are at this moment in time. When I sat down with Wael, we spoke about his vision and I thought ‘I can’t miss this opportunity.’ I’m just so excited about what the future holds because it is about time Rovers had their day in the sun.” That went well then. He's still saying similar now, as he said he thought he could turn things around until he actually started working at the club. Most likely Ticketmaster thought the same about issuing new season tickets!
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Post by gasify on Aug 12, 2021 19:35:51 GMT
Why do posters who clearly have a dislike of Barton listen to his interviews then just post about the negatives they've heard? I'm guessing it's because they have heard negative comments. Are you happy to give him to Christmas as he is now saying that the team won't be firing until then? To even things up, shouldn't there be pro JB posting all the positive stuff? 'Brilliant, we are gonna be sh**e until Christmas then we will be firing'.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 12, 2021 19:47:22 GMT
You say you love the way he talks about the club, but he's proven several times already that his word cannot be trusted. For example, he says after he starts that Hanlan can be a 20 goal a season striker, and that he was tracking him at Fleetwood. Later, he says and maintains that he wouldn't have taken ANY of our players at Fleetwood. Contradictory statements. A top manager gets the best out of their players. He could hardly have gotten less out of our players last season. The fact he didn't recruit them means very little. Our form deteriorated drastically after he arrived. He failed in his task to keep us up. It is as simple as that. He then went onto say that we'd be aiming for a title this season. He now says that we won't be performing to the required level until several months into the season. Always contradicting himself. How can you trust what he says? Joey Barton. The Guardian, Feb 21st. “Somebody, at some point, is going to get Rovers right, mobilise that passionate fan base and get the supporters travelling across the country pushing their team on to bigger and better things. I think I’m the man for it. I’m absolutely convinced it’s going to be this group of players we’ve got here and this group of coaches. I haven’t come here to take part, to be involved in the bottom end of the table, albeit that’s where we are at this moment in time. When I sat down with Wael, we spoke about his vision and I thought ‘I can’t miss this opportunity.’ I’m just so excited about what the future holds because it is about time Rovers had their day in the sun.” That went well then. If you think that’s bad , you should of read some of the predictions from Gaschatters at the start of last season on how well we were going to do .
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 12, 2021 20:13:31 GMT
Why do posters who clearly have a dislike of Barton listen to his interviews then just post about the negatives they've heard? I'm guessing it's because they have heard negative comments. Are you happy to give him to Christmas as he is now saying that the team won't be firing until then? To even things up, shouldn't there be pro JB posting all the positive stuff? 'Brilliant, we are gonna be sh**e until Christmas then we will be firing'. So what were you expecting we'll be beating every team 3-0 from the start of the season? It's pretty obvious to most fans it's going to take time for an entirely new group of player to gell.
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Post by Gassy on Aug 12, 2021 20:13:48 GMT
Did he actually say that? Not in the interview I listened to . Enjoying the holiday then? 😁
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Post by playtowin on Aug 12, 2021 20:21:13 GMT
Why do posters who clearly have a dislike of Barton listen to his interviews then just post about the negatives they've heard? I'm guessing it's because they have heard negative comments. Are you happy to give him to Christmas as he is now saying that the team won't be firing until then? To even things up, shouldn't there be pro JB posting all the positive stuff? 'Brilliant, we are gonna be sh**e until Christmas then we will be firing'. Im yet to listen to the interview. However i would suggest that he means the squad will not be at its best and performing collectively at their best till Christmas. That doesnt mean he expects them to lose every game till then . Sounds like he is expecting a spectrum of results in the first half of the season and more consistent positive results the second half. Which is a fair enough statement. However he also needs to remember the fans need to see the team moving in the right direction and playing well even if they lose. Else the fans will turn and he will be gone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 20:24:59 GMT
Did he actually say that? Not in the interview I listened to . Suggest you listen again on radio Bristol at 50.46 he says ' he has had his eyelids flattered from bigger league clubs' who are willing to offer better terms and says we don't want to loose him but that's not in the club's control.
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Post by gaschat on Aug 12, 2021 20:32:21 GMT
Not in the interview I listened to . Suggest you listen again on radio Bristol at 50.46 he says ' he has had his eyelids flattered from bigger league clubs' who are willing to offer better terms and says we don't want to loose him but that's not in the club's control. He’s full of it, both we and he were scrapping the bottom of the barrel when we signed him…what is it now, 3 wins in 20? The worst managerial record in the once proud history of this club, if he isn’t managing us he isn’t managing anyone because he really is as useless as his record.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 20:34:15 GMT
Just had a listen , I always get quite enthused when I hear him speak and start to believe. Then we play and lose . Reminds me of those time-share salesmen in the Med holiday resorts back in the 80s.
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Post by yattongas on Aug 12, 2021 20:35:30 GMT
Not in the interview I listened to . Suggest you listen again on radio Bristol at 50.46 he says ' he has had his eyelids flattered from bigger league clubs' who are willing to offer better terms and says we don't want to loose him but that's not in the club's control. At no point does he say he wants to leave , he maybe tempted but that’s not wanting to leave or demanding a transfer . Personally I’m easy either way .
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Post by axegas on Aug 12, 2021 20:37:27 GMT
Suggest you listen again on radio Bristol at 50.46 he says ' he has had his eyelids flattered from bigger league clubs' who are willing to offer better terms and says we don't want to loose him but that's not in the club's control. At no point does he say he wants to leave , he maybe tempted but that’s not wanting to leave or demanding a transfer . Personally I’m easy either way . I got the impression that he’s had his head turned, which leads my to believe that he’s not going to play a part in the matchday squad until this is sorted one way or another. I could well be wrong.
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Post by yetigas on Aug 12, 2021 20:45:53 GMT
But our last 6 games last season were: sat, sat, Tue, sat, sat, sat.... And we got 1 point.... Yes and we were a team devoid of confidence, missing a number of players (key players I’d argue) and were not fit ….. I watched every game last season and near enough in every match we seemed to fade badly towards the end of matches….. Yes, and its the manager's job to create that confidence. JB showed that he had no clue how to do that. Public criticism of players is hardly going to get their confidence levels up.
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Post by Raj Gas on Aug 12, 2021 20:50:36 GMT
Apparently no manager, even Guardiola and Klopp, would have kept us up last season. He takes no responsibility for our catastrophic slide since he joined the club. Mental. They probably wouldn't but they are not the sort for a relegation scrap. A Warnock or Allardyce would have done without doubt as they are in a different league to you Joey.
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Post by stapletongas on Aug 12, 2021 21:01:37 GMT
The worst is yet to come with Barton. Nothing is his fault. At some point he will get the boot like all managers do and when that happens the fall out will be excuses blaming everyone.
Should never have been appointed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2021 21:04:53 GMT
Apparently no manager, even Guardiola and Klopp, would have kept us up last season. He takes no responsibility for our catastrophic slide since he joined the club. Mental. They probably wouldn't but they are not the sort for a relegation scrap. A Warnock or Allardyce would have done without doubt as they are in a different league to you Joey. Barton was signed with one objective - getting enough points from the 20 games he was in total charge to keep the club in League 2. He says no manager could have kept the club up but equally I can't think of a league manager would would have done much worse apart from perhaps John Ward. That said I do expect result will improve as players return from injury and illness.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 12, 2021 21:06:08 GMT
No -- The Mem was built by the Romans. I thought that was Twerton Park?
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