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Post by Keynsham Rover on Aug 21, 2021 22:15:37 GMT
i know today wasnt a great result but we have to remember were still in transition it will be a bit up down for a little while we can all see we got the players to do really well we need to be a bit patient it will all come good i know a minority of fans are anti barton but i truly believe hes the right man after last seasons shambles turning us around will take a little bit of time us of fans need to get right behind the boys because at the end of the day its are club and they need us UTG!!!! Barton has done literally nothing to suggest he's the right man for the job. It's this sort of blind faith that probably got him appointed in the first place. He talks a good game, but when it comes down to it the bloke is an egomaniac who refuses to take responsibility for anything. The post match interview today was borderline parody.
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Post by Gassy on Aug 21, 2021 22:16:30 GMT
Well tbf, it depends if the forum is a true representation of the fan base. Find out at the next home game I guess Even if its not a majority per se, I'd be surprised if it was a minority. And even then, the Mem ain't a great example - all fans - myself included probably put their feeling to one side once at the mem? You just cheer the team on and sing hoping to see a win. So I do wonder if the mem is actually a worse example tbh. Yeah fair point. Although I wasn't there, he got a pretty good applause for the Oldham game though before kick off with fans singing his name. I think the biggest sign will be in the attendance tbh.
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Post by axegas on Aug 21, 2021 22:18:14 GMT
I can appreciate that it’s early on in the season, whole new squad and people just want to see the positives but I don’t think there were many today.
If he’s the right man then he better start showing it, very very soon.
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Post by RD on Aug 21, 2021 22:18:23 GMT
Even if its not a majority per se, I'd be surprised if it was a minority. And even then, the Mem ain't a great example - all fans - myself included probably put their feeling to one side once at the mem? You just cheer the team on and sing hoping to see a win. So I do wonder if the mem is actually a worse example tbh. Yeah fair point. Although I wasn't there, he got a pretty good applause for the Oldham game though before kick off with fans singing his name. I think the biggest sign will be in the attendance tbh. Maybe - perhaps this is a misleading cross section. I think ultimately we want to win - so at the ground it's natural you do all you can to support. That said if we don't get at least 4 points from the next 6, I honestly don't see the Mem being a pleasant place for him beyond that.
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Post by gashead1981 on Aug 21, 2021 22:22:27 GMT
Perhaps all the non Joey fans can sit in the Dunford lounge now it’s not being used by the PC and we can count how may there are… 😉🙈
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Post by Gassy on Aug 21, 2021 22:23:09 GMT
Yeah fair point. Although I wasn't there, he got a pretty good applause for the Oldham game though before kick off with fans singing his name. I think the biggest sign will be in the attendance tbh. Maybe - perhaps this is a misleading cross section. I think ultimately we want to win - so at the ground it's natural you do all you can to support. That said if we don't get at least 4 points from the next 6, I honestly don't see the Mem being a pleasant place for him beyond that. I'd probably say 3/6, but otherwise agree. If we beat Crawley then at least he's starting to build a home 'fortress', or I'm sure that's how he'll sell it. But no wins Vs Barrow and Crawley and I don't think I will be able to be behind him tbh. PS, I don't include Cheltenham as the only cup I actually consider/judge with Rovers is the FA cup
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Post by pirate on Aug 21, 2021 22:24:36 GMT
Even if its not a majority per se, I'd be surprised if it was a minority. And even then, the Mem ain't a great example - all fans - myself included probably put their feeling to one side once at the mem? You just cheer the team on and sing hoping to see a win. So I do wonder if the mem is actually a worse example tbh. Yeah fair point. Although I wasn't there, he got a pretty good applause for the Oldham game though before kick off with fans singing his name. I think the biggest sign will be in the attendance tbh. Wasn't the Oldham attendance one of the worst for a league game at the mem in years? Edit: did generate a good atmosphere at times though.
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Post by RD on Aug 21, 2021 22:24:44 GMT
Maybe - perhaps this is a misleading cross section. I think ultimately we want to win - so at the ground it's natural you do all you can to support. That said if we don't get at least 4 points from the next 6, I honestly don't see the Mem being a pleasant place for him beyond that. I'd probably say 3/6, but otherwise agree. If we beat Crawley then at least he's starting to build a home 'fortress', or I'm sure that's how he'll sell it. But no wins Vs Barrow and Crawley and I don't think I will be able to be behind him tbh. PS, I don't include Cheltenham as the only cup I actually consider/judge with Rovers is the FA cup Yeh fair points. And certainly a fair return expectancy wise. Crawley got absolutely hammered today, despite a battling start.
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Post by RD on Aug 21, 2021 22:25:28 GMT
Yeah fair point. Although I wasn't there, he got a pretty good applause for the Oldham game though before kick off with fans singing his name. I think the biggest sign will be in the attendance tbh. Wasn't the Oldham attendance one of the worst for a league game at the mem in years? Yes. Although m in fairness it looked way more - used to them over egging it I recent years but this year seems genuinely way too low.
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Post by Gassy on Aug 21, 2021 22:33:30 GMT
Yeah fair point. Although I wasn't there, he got a pretty good applause for the Oldham game though before kick off with fans singing his name. I think the biggest sign will be in the attendance tbh. Wasn't the Oldham attendance one of the worst for a league game at the mem in years? Edit: did generate a good atmosphere at times though. 6,005 - low tbf. Although it's a tough stat with us being in L1 for quite some time and our worst season of the lot behind closed doors. Pretty sure we'd have had a few 5ks last season. If we drop below 6-6.5k on a Saturday then I'd probably say the fanbase has gone, IMO.
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Post by pirate on Aug 21, 2021 22:33:31 GMT
Wasn't the Oldham attendance one of the worst for a league game at the mem in years? Yes. Although m in fairness it looked way more - used to them over egging it I recent years but this year seems genuinely way too low. I'm not sure, seemed quite a few gaps in certain areas from viewing the ifollow footage and about a 1,000 drop off from the Stevenage game would seem about right. Even the 6,700+ home fans attending the first home league game in 18 months was disappointing.
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Post by pirate on Aug 21, 2021 22:34:46 GMT
Wasn't the Oldham attendance one of the worst for a league game at the mem in years? Edit: did generate a good atmosphere at times though. 6,005 - low tbf. Although it's a tough stat with us being in L1 for quite some time and our worst season of the lot behind closed doors. Pretty sure we'd have had a few 5ks last season. If we drop below 6-6.5k on a Saturday then I'd probably say the fanbase has gone, IMO. We only got about 6,700 gasheads for the first home league game in about 18 months.
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Post by RD on Aug 21, 2021 22:35:35 GMT
Yes. Although m in fairness it looked way more - used to them over egging it I recent years but this year seems genuinely way too low. I'm not sure, seemed quite a few gaps in certain areas from viewing the ifollow footage and about a 1,000 drop off from the Stevenage game would seem about right. Even the 6,700+ home fans attending the first home league game in 18 months was disappointing. You have to assume its because of covid perhaps? As it does seem way lower than you'd expect. Even Garner would have Garnered more than that (see what I did there )
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Post by pirate on Aug 21, 2021 22:37:12 GMT
I'm not sure, seemed quite a few gaps in certain areas from viewing the ifollow footage and about a 1,000 drop off from the Stevenage game would seem about right. Even the 6,700+ home fans attending the first home league game in 18 months was disappointing. You have to assume its because of covid perhaps? As it does seem way lower than you'd expect. Even Garner would have Garnered more than that (see what I did there ) Either way, I'd expect more. Will be a concern to Wael and the bean counters.
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Post by axegas on Aug 21, 2021 22:38:47 GMT
6,005 - low tbf. Although it's a tough stat with us being in L1 for quite some time and our worst season of the lot behind closed doors. Pretty sure we'd have had a few 5ks last season. If we drop below 6-6.5k on a Saturday then I'd probably say the fanbase has gone, IMO. We only got about 6,700 gasheads for the first home league game in about 18 months. It’s funny that because you usually tend to get the best atmospheres when the crowds at the mem are in the 6 or 7,000s. People I think feel an increased onus to get behind the team and show their support and it’s less nervy.
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Post by alanrg on Aug 21, 2021 22:39:15 GMT
One thing is for sure if results carry on like this Wael is not shy of sacking managers
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Post by pirate on Aug 21, 2021 22:41:00 GMT
We only got about 6,700 gasheads for the first home league game in about 18 months. It’s funny that because you usually tend to get the best atmospheres when the crowds at the mem are in the 6 or 7,000s. People I think feel an increased onus to get behind the team and show their support and it’s less nervy. Is a good point. The Stevenage and Oldham games did generate decent noise at times too.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 21, 2021 22:47:40 GMT
The guy has basically had half a season and won 4 games!!!! Worse than Garner FFS. I hate all this give him 10/15 games bollocks. He’s had more than that!
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Post by mariobalotelli on Aug 21, 2021 22:50:49 GMT
6,005 - low tbf. Although it's a tough stat with us being in L1 for quite some time and our worst season of the lot behind closed doors. Pretty sure we'd have had a few 5ks last season. If we drop below 6-6.5k on a Saturday then I'd probably say the fanbase has gone, IMO. We only got about 6,700 gasheads for the first home league game in about 18 months. When WAQ came to the club, the club was riding a wave. Had done well and continued to do so. High crowds were the norm. I’m sure he done his research though and knew deep down we wouldn’t always maintain 8/9k+.
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Post by richmace on Aug 21, 2021 22:51:24 GMT
I agree with the sentiment of the original post. The trouble is that we have been in this position before and know just how vulnerable a team at the bottom end of Division 4 can be.
On the evidence of the first few games, we are likely to struggle this season. I really, really hope that the team will improve. We cannot afford to get relegated again.
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