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Post by pirate on Sept 5, 2021 20:04:26 GMT
Rodmans not a wing back? Never will be, he torn a new ass, playing that position against Exeter. If we’re controlling the game, then fine, but if we’re under the cosh, he’s not good enough defensively. But who's better in the club, I doubt Anderson will be better defensively and Hoole's apparently only a RB? Not sure Rodman was actually at fault for any of the ground goals at Exeter? Hoole is also better going forward than he is defending.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2021 20:12:30 GMT
But who's better in the club, I doubt Anderson will be better defensively and Hoole's apparently only a RB? Not sure Rodman was actually at fault for any of the ground goals at Exeter? Hoole is also better going forward than he is defending. In that case why idea why he can't play as a RWB? Given how regular teams play with WB's it's surprising youngsters are not taught how to play both as a FB and WB.
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 5, 2021 20:32:32 GMT
It is going to be interesting to see what develops in the coming weeks because there is no doubt in my mind that JB has put together a very good squad of players for League 2 and many of these players are still finding their feet and JB is looking for the best combination. As players find their true form there will be changes where certain players cement thir place in the team whilst some may depend on injuries to get a chance. As I see it Taylor, Nicholson,Andersen and Finley have pretty well claimed places in the side, The rest are up for grabs still. I’d add belshaw to that list Steve. Annsi could well have an extended spell on the sidelines. I do worry Nicholson will be scrubbed off that list when his X-ray results come back this week. 🙏
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Post by pirate on Sept 5, 2021 20:41:52 GMT
Hoole is also better going forward than he is defending. In that case why idea why he can't play as a RWB? Given how regular teams play with WB's it's surprising youngsters are not taught how to play both as a FB and WB. Barton brought in the players he has for that specific system and obviously thinks they are the best ones for the job.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 5, 2021 20:44:11 GMT
Hasn't Grant been a virtual ever present, when fit, for JB? I sense Saunders will take some dislodging from the side, plus Clarke seems a miles better No 9 if JB sticks with one upfront than either Collins or Pitman after just 45 mins of football.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 5, 2021 22:18:14 GMT
I’d rather have a back 4 but if JB wants a back 3 then it’s going to be a back 3. In a back 3 with Kilgour wide on the right and Harries on the left we were easily got behind and threatened on many occasions. Harries is a better passer but Alfie does struggle at times in that system. Against another side we may be punished more. Perhaps with different players it would improve but whoever’s there they will need more support from Saunders or Anderson or different wing backs. But it seems that they are wingers playing as wing backs rather than out and out wing backs. Junior B and Trevor C may be more suitable defensively but we’d miss Saunders energy and the threat of Anderson. Too many similar players. At the moment he hasn’t got the balance right, let’s hope with the complete week for training we will be better next Saturday. UTG!
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 6, 2021 6:14:06 GMT
I can't see it's Kilgour's fault if the opposition are getting in behind the WB as he's playing too far up the pitch, as the same thing happened at Exeter when Kilgour wasn't even in the team? As suggested the problem seems to be the present WB's are too attack minded.
We can keep Saunders energy in the team by moving him into Nicholson's position as I doubt he'll recover by next Saturday, assuming that he isn't now out long term with a fracture.
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 6, 2021 7:30:06 GMT
I can't see it's Kilgour's fault if the opposition are getting in behind the WB as he's playing too far up the pitch, as the same thing happened at Exeter when Kilgour wasn't even in the team? As suggested the problem seems to be the present WB's are too attack minded. We can keep Saunders energy in the team by moving him into Nicholson's position as I doubt he'll recover by next Saturday, assuming that he isn't now out long term with a fracture. Praying for no shin fracture as that’s him gone or 4-6 months again 😢
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Post by percy on Sept 6, 2021 8:03:09 GMT
I’d rather have a back 4 but if JB wants a back 3 then it’s going to be a back 3. In a back 3 with Kilgour wide on the right and Harries on the left we were easily got behind and threatened on many occasions. Harries is a better passer but Alfie does struggle at times in that system. Against another side we may be punished more. Perhaps with different players it would improve but whoever’s there they will need more support from Saunders or Anderson or different wing backs. But it seems that they are wingers playing as wing backs rather than out and out wing backs. Junior B and Trevor C may be more suitable defensively but we’d miss Saunders energy and the threat of Anderson. Too many similar players. At the moment he hasn’t got the balance right, let’s hope with the complete week for training we will be better next Saturday. UTG! The problem in the first half when we were getting beaten easily down both wings was not any of the 3 CB's it was the out of position wingbacks getting caught out. Alfie had a good game, 2nd only to Taylor in defence. People seem pickier about everything he does! Let's see when Clarke is back at LWB to see if we are more solid, but I really do like Saunders (and Anderson) who seem to be up for playing anywhere and run their socks off. With what was available maybe we should have switched to a back 4 in the first half - but that cant be Kilgour at RB. Needs Hoole.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 6, 2021 8:34:08 GMT
I’d rather have a back 4 but if JB wants a back 3 then it’s going to be a back 3. In a back 3 with Kilgour wide on the right and Harries on the left we were easily got behind and threatened on many occasions. Harries is a better passer but Alfie does struggle at times in that system. Against another side we may be punished more. Perhaps with different players it would improve but whoever’s there they will need more support from Saunders or Anderson or different wing backs. But it seems that they are wingers playing as wing backs rather than out and out wing backs. Junior B and Trevor C may be more suitable defensively but we’d miss Saunders energy and the threat of Anderson. Too many similar players. At the moment he hasn’t got the balance right, let’s hope with the complete week for training we will be better next Saturday. UTG! The problem in the first half when we were getting beaten easily down both wings was not any of the 3 CB's it was the out of position wingbacks getting caught out. Alfie had a good game, 2nd only to Taylor in defence. People seem pickier about everything he does! Let's see when Clarke is back at LWB to see if we are more solid, but I really do like Saunders (and Anderson) who seem to be up for playing anywhere and run their socks off. With what was available maybe we should have switched to a back 4 in the first half - but that cant be Kilgour at RB. Needs Hoole. You may be right. I wasn’t picking on Kilgour or Harries, as you say it wasn’t their fault. But Alfie never looks completely comfortable in a back 3 and it’s made worse by the wing backs themselves not being defensively minded. No one’s fault really but it’s a dilemma for JB. Istr when Leadbetter and Brown were in a back 4 we never seemed any less attack minded and certainly strong defensively. It’s not always about the system, it’s about matching the system to the players. Hey ho. UTG!
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