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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 22, 2021 14:50:19 GMT
Starnes joined in March 2018 as CEO. Prior to Starnes we had one manager for a 4 year period. In the 3.5 years since he joined we have had 4 caretaker managers and 4 managers. That doesn’t take into account the change in backroom, coaching and academy staff. Shambles. #starnesout Since then (17th December 2019), we've won just 13 games out of 69 league games. Wheel's have come off.
Ha! Yep. That statement really has come back to bite Starnes on the arse.
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Post by Squiffy on Sept 22, 2021 15:41:07 GMT
I posted our stats in a different thread following the Hartlepool defeat so here is the updated stats: Following our game on the 21st December 2019, we were 2nd in League 1. Since then, we have... Played 68 league games. Won 13. Drew 13. Lost 42. Scored 53. Conceded 107. Won 52 points from a possible 204 points available and have the goal difference of -54. I am positive that no one on here find these stats acceptable. I am showing them here again so we can compare them to Southend from the same date onwards. I have selected Southend because I think we all can agree that they have been in all kinds of mess on and off the pitch for a long time. They just suffered a double relegation and already are struggling in the National League near the bottom. They are truly a club in crisis. So here are Southend's stats since their game on 21st December 2019. Played 66 league games. Won 14. Drew 20. Lost 32. Scored 49. Conceded 91. Won 64 points from a possible 198 points available and have the goal difference of -42. So this crisis club have won more than us, drew more than us, lost less than us, scored just less than us, conceded less than us, won more points than us and has a better GD than us. What does this make us if we've actually got a worse record than them over the last 21 months? It seems we’re not the only ones in trouble: Derby County officially enter administration and are deducted 12 points www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58649432…or: Barcelona: The toxic battle ripping apart a European giant www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58643421
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Post by socrates on Sept 22, 2021 15:59:43 GMT
I don’t think it’s scathing particularly I think it’s firm and fair. Barton has been a disaster in terms of points per game since he arrived although I do think he’s signed some decent players. Hopefully he’ll be sacked and someone else can do well managing Barton’s players. For example Buckle was awful but signed some decent players that Trollop went on to do well with so all is not lost but I just can’t see Barton turning it around he’s deluded and I feared the worst when after the first game of the season - which we lost and played terribly in he said that he was certain we would win promotion. It’s an arrogant thing to say , even the most decorated British manager of all time Alex Ferguson didn’t say things like “ were definitely going to win the league “. It’s arrogant, childish and unprofessional. Basically the blokes a prick.
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Post by socrates on Sept 22, 2021 16:07:05 GMT
I posted our stats in a different thread following the Hartlepool defeat so here is the updated stats: Following our game on the 21st December 2019, we were 2nd in League 1. Since then, we have... Played 68 league games. Won 13. Drew 13. Lost 42. Scored 53. Conceded 107. Won 52 points from a possible 204 points available and have the goal difference of -54. I am positive that no one on here find these stats acceptable. I am showing them here again so we can compare them to Southend from the same date onwards. I have selected Southend because I think we all can agree that they have been in all kinds of mess on and off the pitch for a long time. They just suffered a double relegation and already are struggling in the National League near the bottom. They are truly a club in crisis. So here are Southend's stats since their game on 21st December 2019. Played 66 league games. Won 14. Drew 20. Lost 32. Scored 49. Conceded 91. Won 64 points from a possible 198 points available and have the goal difference of -42. So this crisis club have won more than us, drew more than us, lost less than us, scored just less than us, conceded less than us, won more points than us and has a better GD than us. What does this make us if we've actually got a worse record than them over the last 21 months? It means we’ll be a non league club in a few months unless we get the right man in next time and we have to do it before it’s too late.
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Post by bobbyjones on Sept 22, 2021 16:20:03 GMT
Starnes has brought us down, he fecking rubbish and just taking our money. As for the so say Manager what a Dam joke. Laughing at us paying him, hope he saves it as do not get paid in Prison. Best place for con men. Our owner should know better.
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Sept 22, 2021 17:03:17 GMT
Who's comparing, and I'll dare to say what I like thanks. I mean, it was meant to be a joke. But FWIW, it wasn't a particularly good point. "We've sacked too many so we've got to stick with him" is literally the most ridiculous rationale ever. Okay, my point is that most of those managers shouldn't hand been sacked, just given more support or financial backing, or both. There far too much knee jerk reactions in football. How are clubs supposed to build anything if they sack the leader before they've had a chance to do their job.
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Post by RD on Sept 22, 2021 17:15:07 GMT
I mean, it was meant to be a joke. But FWIW, it wasn't a particularly good point. "We've sacked too many so we've got to stick with him" is literally the most ridiculous rationale ever. Okay, my point is that most of those managers shouldn't hand been sacked, just given more support or financial backing, or both. There far too much knee jerk reactions in football. How are clubs supposed to build anything if they sack the leader before they've had a chance to do their job. Understood but sometimes time doesn't make a difference. Barton has had what - about 30 games now? And has a relegation on his CV, the worst win ratio in our history (or very close) and has us pretty much bottom of the football league as it stands. Add to that all the other off the field issues and his continual run-ins with the law, and we just need to accept defeat and get rid.
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Post by cj on Sept 22, 2021 19:10:14 GMT
I posted our stats in a different thread following the Hartlepool defeat so here is the updated stats: Following our game on the 21st December 2019, we were 2nd in League 1. Since then, we have... Played 68 league games. Won 13. Drew 13. Lost 42. Scored 53. Conceded 107. Won 52 points from a possible 204 points available and have the goal difference of -54. I am positive that no one on here find these stats acceptable. I am showing them here again so we can compare them to Southend from the same date onwards. I have selected Southend because I think we all can agree that they have been in all kinds of mess on and off the pitch for a long time. They just suffered a double relegation and already are struggling in the National League near the bottom. They are truly a club in crisis. So here are Southend's stats since their game on 21st December 2019. Played 66 league games. Won 14. Drew 20. Lost 32. Scored 49. Conceded 91. Won 64 points from a possible 198 points available and have the goal difference of -42. So this crisis club have won more than us, drew more than us, lost less than us, scored just less than us, conceded less than us, won more points than us and has a better GD than us. What does this make us if we've actually got a worse record than them over the last 21 months? It means we’ll be a non league club in a few months unless we get the right man in next time and we have to do it before it’s too late. Whoever comes in will have a massive job on their hands. Not just someone who can get the best out of the current team but someone with experience of this league and knows how to win games in this league. Someone who can get his teeth into all aspects of the cub to change this losing mentality that we have. Longer we wait, the worse situation we will be in meaning the harder it will be to find such a person.
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Sept 22, 2021 20:04:31 GMT
Starnes joined in March 2018 as CEO. Prior to Starnes we had one manager for a 4 year period. In the 3.5 years since he joined we have had 4 caretaker managers and 4 managers. That doesn’t take into account the change in backroom, coaching and academy staff. Shambles. #starnesout Since then (17th December 2019), we've won just 13 games out of 69 league games. Wheel's have come off.
Starnes has a record here worthy of resignation - back when people resigned for honor. Literally all gone to absolute pig sh** since he got involved.
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Post by herbertblake on Sept 22, 2021 21:08:58 GMT
Admit it was a mistake apologize and approach Paul Tisdale back again.
Experienced, local and sensible tactician.
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Post by cj on Sept 22, 2021 21:22:21 GMT
Admit it was a mistake apologize and approach Paul Tisdale back again. Experienced, local and sensible tactician. Imagine Garner's Swindon beating Rovers and then JB then gets sacked. The coach that JB publicly called out as negligent and should be struck off if he was a doctor, could end up being the one to get Barton sacked. Then imagine JB's replacement being Tisdale, who JB also slagged off. Ultimate slap in the face for JB.
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Post by aghast on Sept 22, 2021 21:31:47 GMT
Admit it was a mistake apologize and approach Paul Tisdale back again. Experienced, local and sensible tactician. I don't think many will agree with you, but I do.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 22, 2021 23:18:29 GMT
Tisdale isn’t coming back.
From the sounds of it he got the sack because he couldn’t be assed to train the players. So, no thank you.
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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 23, 2021 8:57:18 GMT
Admit it was a mistake apologize and approach Paul Tisdale back again. Experienced, local and sensible tactician. I know he inherited a poor team from Ben Garner, but he didn't exactly improve the situation.. in fact, results got even worse under his stewardship. He also had a transfer window to try to put things right and completely guffed it up. It would be a huge surprise if we considered approaching Tisdale back for another go and then another huge surprise if he actually agreed to come back!!
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Post by wallywalters on Sept 23, 2021 9:07:49 GMT
Admit it was a mistake apologize and approach Paul Tisdale back again. Experienced, local and sensible tactician. I know he inherited a poor team from Ben Garner, but he didn't exactly improve the situation.. in fact, results got even worse under his stewardship. He also had a transfer window to try to put things right and completely guffed it up. It would be a huge surprise if we considered approaching Tisdale back for another go and then another huge surprise if he actually agreed to come back!! I’d rather garner back than tisdale. In fact I’d go as far to say I’d rather keep Barton than him. Really didn’t like him.
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Post by RD on Sept 23, 2021 9:38:41 GMT
I know he inherited a poor team from Ben Garner, but he didn't exactly improve the situation.. in fact, results got even worse under his stewardship. He also had a transfer window to try to put things right and completely guffed it up. It would be a huge surprise if we considered approaching Tisdale back for another go and then another huge surprise if he actually agreed to come back!! I’d rather garner back than tisdale. In fact I’d go as far to say I’d rather keep Barton than him. Really didn’t like him. Nobody is worse than Barton. Well, kind of ironic actually - as nobody WOULD be better than Barton.
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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 23, 2021 9:40:26 GMT
I know he inherited a poor team from Ben Garner, but he didn't exactly improve the situation.. in fact, results got even worse under his stewardship. He also had a transfer window to try to put things right and completely guffed it up. It would be a huge surprise if we considered approaching Tisdale back for another go and then another huge surprise if he actually agreed to come back!! I’d rather garner back than tisdale. In fact I’d go as far to say I’d rather keep Barton than him. Really didn’t like him. I think the writing was on the wall for Tisdale when he started moaning about our lack of strikers (or lack of goalscoring strikers) after the transfer deadline had passed (where he had failed to bring any forwards in)... it sounded like he had given up already. Then Barton came in.. slagged all the players and previous managers off, gave up, got us relegated and has subsequently hugely overpromised and underdelivered. I think you're right about Garner though. He suffered because we were riding so high when he came in and where we ended up. There were a number of reasons for this (and not all were Garner's fault). His PPG / Win% should have at least kept us up - before you even factor in the fact he would have had another transfer window to address some of the issues. I wasn't that arsed about him being sacked at the time - we weren't doing well - but I was surprised.. as it seemed like we had brought him in as a long term project.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 23, 2021 9:50:34 GMT
Can’t we just agree not to have any of the three back when Joey inevitably goes?
If I could erase the last 21 footballing months I certainly would.
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Post by chilly1883 on Sept 23, 2021 10:16:51 GMT
Admit it was a mistake apologize and approach Paul Tisdale back again. Experienced, local and sensible tactician. Imagine Garner's Swindon beating Rovers and then JB then gets sacked. The coach that JB publicly called out as negligent and should be struck off if he was a doctor, could end up being the one to get Barton sacked. Then imagine JB's replacement being Tisdale, who JB also slagged off. Ultimate slap in the face for JB.
bone hard when you wrote that? 🤣
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 23, 2021 11:12:03 GMT
Can’t we just agree not to have any of the three back when Joey inevitably goes? If I could erase the last 21 footballing months I certainly would. Where's Patrick Duffy in the shower when you need it?
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