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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 4, 2021 21:17:11 GMT
I've mostly been behind Wael during his entire tenure. There is a hell of a lot to feel let down about as a supporter. On the field we've slid back from being a promotion chasing side in 2nd at half time vs Wimbledon Boxing Day 2019, to straddling the bottom of League two and winning hardly any games in the 21 months subsequent. We've been through 3 managers who've been unable to buy a win and been promised the earth by all of them. How often b Ok, fair enough, we're not entitled to success. However, nobody from the club has bothered to speak to supporters and explain the decisions that were made. We've got a missing Chief Exec and a director of football whom it's not clear if he's with the club anymore. Off the field our manager, whom many already didn't want for his violent antics and pending court cases, has gone off and found himself a court case for a domestic violence incident. Guilty or not, what a shitshow. Then whilst we've managed to finally get ourselves a glossy training ground our players are allegedly getting injured left right and centre. As for stadiums, I completely understand the pandemic will have hampered matters but we haven't heard anything solid regards stadiums in the last 24 months. Having came in now approaching 6 years ago we've gone from having a ready to proceed plan for a stadium to having absolutely nothing concrete and visible to supporters. Season tickets wise they don't turn up until 3 games in and even then you're lucky if they turned up for then. Refunds and credit goes missing left right and centre. The whole operational base has been replaced from known supporters of the club who've worked there decades to faceless companies whom don't really give a sh** when things go wrong. Apparently we're a more efficient and modern commercial outfit now. Doesn't feel like it. I defended a lot of this for a number of years as it appeared to be steps in the right direction but its by and large embarrassing. All is well though because we got a free pen with our season tickets. I've personally had about Dam enough. Even Nick Higgs gave us a fortnightly update even if it was full of sh**.
"Where is the CEO? That points to problems at the top. Nobody doubts Wael Al Qadi’s unwavering commitment – what he has done for this football club is nothing short of incredible. But you must question the people he has surrounded himself with and Starnes is the first in line here. He has been involved in the appointment of these three managers (although it's unclear how much Barton was his pick). He is nowhere to be seen as the club slide down the leagues and must answer serious questions if our slide does not stop. Surely the club needs a fresh structure with new faces in at the top?"
Isn't the writer just a Gashead like the rest of us, not sure why your getting so excited about a fan writing an article for Bristol Live. MS was apparently meeting fans with Wael in the Exec Boxes so he's still clearly at the club.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 4, 2021 21:19:35 GMT
Joey Barton FC. Wael and Starnes have foolishly invested far more in JB that just the managerial position. They let him fill the club with his staff and even put a mate on the board. Complete negligence. And before anyone says it, it doesn't matter one bit that he financially supported us. That doesn't give him carte blanche to be negligent with our club. Vote with feet time maybe. I already have but maybe thats the only way to force change. Dark days We survived last season without any fans so I doubt Wael's too worried you've gone missing. Gibson, at last, seems to have made some progress sorting out the issues with the SC, so perhaps he might be a decent, rather than negligent, appointment.
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Post by Icegas on Oct 4, 2021 21:27:47 GMT
I think the whole “your lucky to have a club” thing is downright patronising bullshit. There was a Bristol Rovers for 130 odd years before you Mr Al Qaedi and there will be one long after you have gone. Our club is more than a legal entity it is a community. The ownership is a massive part of the problem, in refusing to accept responsibility for the problems he has created I cannot see how he can possibly rectify them Wael Out Is that what he said as I didn't see it?
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Post by cj on Oct 4, 2021 21:44:41 GMT
"Where is the CEO? That points to problems at the top. Nobody doubts Wael Al Qadi’s unwavering commitment – what he has done for this football club is nothing short of incredible. But you must question the people he has surrounded himself with and Starnes is the first in line here. He has been involved in the appointment of these three managers (although it's unclear how much Barton was his pick). He is nowhere to be seen as the club slide down the leagues and must answer serious questions if our slide does not stop. Surely the club needs a fresh structure with new faces in at the top?"
Isn't the writer just a Gashead like the rest of us, not sure why your getting so excited about a fan writing an article for Bristol Live. MS was apparently meeting fans with Wael in the Exec Boxes so he's still clearly at the club. Yes he is like the rest of us. The difference though is that he has a platform to express his views to a wider audience in the name of the local rag. As for me getting excited about it, you couldn't be further from the truth. Reading that whole story was very depressing because its true in my opinion.
"Not sure why you are getting so excited about" MS meeting fans! Wow! Hope you enjoy your orgasm
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Post by dragonfly on Oct 4, 2021 21:47:13 GMT
Tonight it feels like the situation has entered a new phase, just by reading through this thread it is clear that many posters have had enough. BRFC cannot move forward until Barton moves out. He cannot function as a Football Manager with 2 Trials occupying his mind and Wael should not expect him to. Barton seems to want a way out as he was supposed to have offered to walk after the Swindon defeat. There is nothing going for the us right now and no prospect of a change in fortunes. Why does Wael not see what is happening as we continue on a downward plunge. If the penny ever drops I am afraid it may be too late. The greatest danger to BRFC is our saviour and owner - Wael who must change course now to give us a fighting chance of remaining as a League Club.
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Post by gashead1981 on Oct 4, 2021 21:54:50 GMT
Probably because we are still only 5 points off the play offs after 10 games. Which still doesn’t sound great and it’s not escaped my notice we are 3 from the trap door but until we are 10-12 off and lost a few more he will still be here and it can also look very different in 3 games. .
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Post by gasgasgasgas on Oct 4, 2021 21:59:30 GMT
Tonight it feels like the situation has entered a new phase, just by reading through this thread it is clear that many posters have had enough. BRFC cannot move forward until Barton moves out. He cannot function as a Football Manager with 2 Trials occupying his mind and Wael should not expect him to. Barton seems to want a way out as he was supposed to have offered to walk after the Swindon defeat. There is nothing going for the us right now and no prospect of a change in fortunes. Why does Wael not see what is happening as we continue on a downward plunge. If the penny ever drops I am afraid it may be too late. The greatest danger to BRFC is our saviour and owner - Wael who must change course now to give us a fighting chance of remaining as a League Club. Agree with most of that, apart from the saviour bit. We must not put Wael on a pedestal. I think you are right this is a new phase and us gasheads need to protest that the way the club being run is unacceptable. It is ours not his. Wael should be made to answer the questions about the historic links to corruption of at least three current employees. See how uncomfortable that makes him.
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Post by cj on Oct 4, 2021 22:02:23 GMT
Probably because we are still only 5 points off the play offs after 10 games. Which still doesn’t sound great and it’s not escaped my notice we are 3 from the trap door but until we are 10-12 off and lost a few more he will still be here and it can also look very different in 3 games. . Good point well made. Which strengthens my opinion that we need a replacement asap because a new manager could get the best from these players, that clearly JB is not doing. Imagine if a manager comes in and actually gets this team performing for the shirt, the fans and it clicks? Best to do it now while there is still plenty of time to to chasing the top 7 down.
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Post by cheersdrive on Oct 4, 2021 22:03:35 GMT
I feel that the only effective way to register unhappiness with the club is to stay away. I have been watching Rovers since 1958 but the appointment of Barton was a step too far for me and I have stayed away since he took over. Letting off steam on here and calling for things to change has no effect whatsoever.
If just a few thousand season ticket holders and Barton fans turn up for the next home game, Barton will be gone by Sunday lunchtime.
It's the only way supporters have of letting the club know what the true feelings are. Just stay away, however difficult that may be.
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Post by yattongas on Oct 4, 2021 22:03:54 GMT
I like the bloke but let’s not kid ourselves, he’s done bugger all in 6 yrs and he’s been a massive let down . We’re sh** …..
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Post by gasgasgasgas on Oct 4, 2021 22:26:15 GMT
Here’s what Steve Phillips thinks of Barton.
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Post by pirate on Oct 4, 2021 22:29:01 GMT
Probably because we are still only 5 points off the play offs after 10 games. Which still doesn’t sound great and it’s not escaped my notice we are 3 from the trap door but until we are 10-12 off and lost a few more he will still be here and it can also look very different in 3 games. . We have hardly created any chances in all the games this season and sit 20th in the xG table and 20th in the actual table. The results are sh** and the football is even worse. Any competent CEO or owner would have got rid of Barton after he dismally failed in his objective to keep us up last season. The way we went down with a whimper was an absolute disgrace. But no, our clueless BoD give him carte blanche to do what he wants and this 'great reset' bollocks. Not to mention the off field legal 'shenanigans'. You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't. Any other club and it would be quite amusing. We are literally a laughing stock of the EFL. I know Wael is your mate and all that, but wake up and smell the coffee for crying out loud!
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Post by Slide away on Oct 4, 2021 22:42:25 GMT
Probably because we are still only 5 points off the play offs after 10 games. Which still doesn’t sound great and it’s not escaped my notice we are 3 from the trap door but until we are 10-12 off and lost a few more he will still be here and it can also look very different in 3 games. . We have hardly created any chances in all the games this season and sit 20th in the xG table and 20th in the actual table. The results are sh** and the football is even worse. Any competent CEO or owner would have got rid of Barton after he dismally failed in his objective to keep us up last season. The way we went down with a whimper was an absolute disgrace. But no, our clueless BoD give him carte blanche to do what he wants and this 'great reset' bollocks. Not to mention the off field legal 'shenanigans'. You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't. Any other club and it would be quite amusing. We are literally a laughing stock of the EFL. I know Wael is your mate and all that, but wake up and smell the coffee for crying out loud! Spot on Pirate. 7.5k for Swindon at home tells you everything about the place right now. Sadly that will only reduce over the coming weeks as many have just got to the point where enough is enough- nearly 2 years of complete dross on and off the pitch is taking its toll. What a mess.
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Post by pirate on Oct 4, 2021 22:45:52 GMT
We have hardly created any chances in all the games this season and sit 20th in the xG table and 20th in the actual table. The results are sh** and the football is even worse. Any competent CEO or owner would have got rid of Barton after he dismally failed in his objective to keep us up last season. The way we went down with a whimper was an absolute disgrace. But no, our clueless BoD give him carte blanche to do what he wants and this 'great reset' bollocks. Not to mention the off field legal 'shenanigans'. You couldn't make it up, you really couldn't. Any other club and it would be quite amusing. We are literally a laughing stock of the EFL. I know Wael is your mate and all that, but wake up and smell the coffee for crying out loud! Spot on Pirate. 7.5k for Swindon at home tells you everything about the place right now. Sadly that will only reduce over the coming weeks as many have just got to the point where enough is enough- nearly 2 years of complete dross on and off the pitch is taking its toll. What a mess. ...and 700 of those were from Swindon. Less than 7,000 gasheads for a local game against Swindon. I won't be going again until Barton is gone, so that is another one off the next attendance. Cant afford to waste my time and money on this freakshow. Sad times indeed.
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Post by scottleroc on Oct 4, 2021 22:51:52 GMT
JB has been very astute though and Wael seems to have called for it. He has filled all coaching roles/medical staff/board members etc so if Wael wants to get rid it is another complete change around of the whole structure of the club, which will only create more turmoil!
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Post by gasheadontour on Oct 4, 2021 23:21:08 GMT
Here’s what Steve Phillips thinks of Barton. JB said similar things when a player at QPR.
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Post by scottleroc on Oct 5, 2021 1:01:33 GMT
JB has been very astute though and Wael seems to have called for it. He has filled all coaching roles/medical staff/board members etc so if Wael wants to get rid it is another complete change around of the whole structure of the club, which will only create more turmoil! *fallen not called….
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Post by Qatar Gas on Oct 5, 2021 5:03:51 GMT
Why only mention the last three home games?. Garners last 4 away games to add some balance, he won 3 and drew the other one. So maybe those small signs of improvement. On that basis our current form was actually getting worse not improving! He is the second worst manager in our history and there is no denying that. However, I honestly believe we would be in a better position than we are now if he had stayed and that thought is incredibly depressing!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Oct 5, 2021 6:12:04 GMT
Bit more….Board and people running the club not to blame Unfair to blame the board (allegedly) Board giving their all. Desperate to get out of it. Due to hard work of people at the club that were still around. What board? They are invisible men. Thing I don't understand is I though Barton did OK at Fleetwood so what's different here? Starnes and Widderington have see the back of DC, GC, BG, PT and JB has the worse managerial record in our history. We have had countless backroom changes and coaches in that time and we are still sh**. In fact we are getting worse. Anyone spot the constant in this equation?
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Post by Officer Barbrady on Oct 5, 2021 6:14:32 GMT
Bit more….Board and people running the club not to blame Unfair to blame the board (allegedly) Board giving their all. Desperate to get out of it. Due to hard work of people at the club that were still around. What board? They are invisible men. Thing I don't understand is I though Barton did OK at Fleetwood so what's different here? Starnes and Widderington have see the back of DC, GC, BG, PT and JB has the worse managerial record in our history. We have had countless backroom changes and coaches in that time and we are still sh**. In fact we are getting worse. Anyone spot the constant in this equation? Been saying the same. Since Starnes came in we have been in constant decline.
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