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Post by herbertblake on Nov 15, 2021 19:35:09 GMT
Great goalscorer for us his goals ensured a short stay in Conference and promotion to league one. Would love him leading our line again. Doubt we could afford him. No thanks, don't put him in the great category, nothing before he came to us, his Rovers team mates made loads of chances for him, some he put away , plenty more he didn't, some unbelievable misses including in the Daggers game, thankfully Browner on hand to save his embarrassment, not in the same finisher class as Richard Walker and a few others. Agreed some players are late starters but without doubt he proved to be an inspired signing. Walker was good but he never played in the championship and went to Burton. Only Lockyer I believe from our Conference side who played regular Championship football. Brown and Harrison did well on league one for Portsmouth.
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Post by stapletongas on Nov 15, 2021 19:45:41 GMT
Utter sh**e, he's not scared of playing at the Mem, has done it in the past. He's a pro footballer earning a living, if he wanted to secure a better future for his family by signing a far better paid deal with City, then that's his right just like any of us earning a living. He has spoken highly of the majority of our fanbase since leaving. If he's not there due to "injury" then he's injured. Any Gashead wanting some sort of point scoring retribution by thinking Matty Taylor has somehow been scared off from playing at the Mem is deluded. He served us well at a time we needed it, as did the rest of that squad. Nothing lasts for ever, players come and go. I thank them all for their contribution. We move on. It's time to focus on the latest batch of incumbents somehow reaching the status that squad achieved. That sounds like you view football as a mere commercial matter. Did you forget all the circumstances regarding his sale? The context of it? The release fee? The fact it was deliberately left as late as possible in the window to prevent us signing a replacement - purely to get one over on us on behalf of his new employer? Yes, he’s a footballer earning a living. He was a footballer who could have comfortably got a deal probably at plenty of other clubs, and he chose to totally betray everyone who had helped him in his journey, from DC who plucked him out of forest green reserves to the fans who stuck with him despite not scoring for about 12 games. Then, after all that he openly mocks us and tries to wind our fans up, Yes, commercial decision. Defrauding pensioners is a commercial decision - those fraudsters have families to feed too. Hell, Judas had mouths to feed when he picked up those pieces of silver. It’s only football at the end of the day, it’s a game, but Taylor knew full well what he was doing, and chose the money. It wasn’t his one chance, he had years of decent contracts ahead but he chose the one thing which would completely screw all his team mates and supporters - all the little kids who got Taylor shirts and idolised him. He had a right to play for whoever he liked but we have a right to dislike him, and I fully intend to exercise that right. After all, we paid his wages for about 4 years That sounds like you view football as a mere commercial matter. Because it is. Clubs buy and sell finely balancing a results based business with not putting the club at risk...obviously some fail both ways Did you forget all the circumstances regarding his sale? The context of it? The release fee? The fact it was deliberately left as late as possible in the window to prevent us signing a replacement - purely to get one over on us on behalf of his new employer? - Rumour, rumour and more rumour, none confirmed or proven, but lets face it, fans like a good rumour to back up what they want to believe. Yes, he’s a footballer earning a living. He was a footballer who could have comfortably got a deal probably at plenty of other clubs, and he chose to totally betray everyone who had helped him in his journey, from DC who plucked him out of forest green reserves to the fans who stuck with him despite not scoring for about 12 games. All parties have subsequently confirmed that there were no other offers to play at a higher lever Then, after all that he openly mocks us and tries to wind our fans up, Does he? Have you read is interview after the last game the other week, he expressed his appreciation for teh majority of our fanbase Yes, commercial decision. Defrauding pensioners is a commercial decision - those fraudsters have families to feed too. Hell, Judas had mouths to feed when he picked up those pieces of silver. Well, that's not fraud, check the Fraud Act 2006 and while you're having a good read, find any reference to Judas' family in the New Testament. You don't know much about Easter? It’s only football at the end of the day, it’s a game, but Taylor knew full well what he was doing, and chose the money. It wasn’t his one chance, he had years of decent contracts ahead but he chose the one thing which would completely screw all his team mates and supporters - all the little kids who got Taylor shirts and idolised him. - See 3 above He had a right to play for whoever he liked but we have a right to dislike him, and I fully intend to exercise that right. After all, we paid his wages for about 4 years. Your choice, some will take the pragmatic view that those 4 years wages were well spent and well earned. Don't you just love a good debate on a forum? Fantastic we are not sheep!
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Post by gulfofaden on Nov 15, 2021 20:08:12 GMT
That sounds like you view football as a mere commercial matter. Did you forget all the circumstances regarding his sale? The context of it? The release fee? The fact it was deliberately left as late as possible in the window to prevent us signing a replacement - purely to get one over on us on behalf of his new employer? Yes, he’s a footballer earning a living. He was a footballer who could have comfortably got a deal probably at plenty of other clubs, and he chose to totally betray everyone who had helped him in his journey, from DC who plucked him out of forest green reserves to the fans who stuck with him despite not scoring for about 12 games. Then, after all that he openly mocks us and tries to wind our fans up, Yes, commercial decision. Defrauding pensioners is a commercial decision - those fraudsters have families to feed too. Hell, Judas had mouths to feed when he picked up those pieces of silver. It’s only football at the end of the day, it’s a game, but Taylor knew full well what he was doing, and chose the money. It wasn’t his one chance, he had years of decent contracts ahead but he chose the one thing which would completely screw all his team mates and supporters - all the little kids who got Taylor shirts and idolised him. He had a right to play for whoever he liked but we have a right to dislike him, and I fully intend to exercise that right. After all, we paid his wages for about 4 years That sounds like you view football as a mere commercial matter. Because it is. Clubs buy and sell finely balancing a results based business with not putting the club at risk...obviously some fail both ways Did you forget all the circumstances regarding his sale? The context of it? The release fee? The fact it was deliberately left as late as possible in the window to prevent us signing a replacement - purely to get one over on us on behalf of his new employer? - Rumour, rumour and more rumour, none confirmed or proven, but lets face it, fans like a good rumour to back up what they want to believe. Yes, he’s a footballer earning a living. He was a footballer who could have comfortably got a deal probably at plenty of other clubs, and he chose to totally betray everyone who had helped him in his journey, from DC who plucked him out of forest green reserves to the fans who stuck with him despite not scoring for about 12 games. All parties have subsequently confirmed that there were no other offers to play at a higher lever Then, after all that he openly mocks us and tries to wind our fans up, Does he? Have you read is interview after the last game the other week, he expressed his appreciation for teh majority of our fanbase Yes, commercial decision. Defrauding pensioners is a commercial decision - those fraudsters have families to feed too. Hell, Judas had mouths to feed when he picked up those pieces of silver. Well, that's not fraud, check the Fraud Act 2006 and while you're having a good read, find any reference to Judas' family in the New Testament. You don't know much about Easter? It’s only football at the end of the day, it’s a game, but Taylor knew full well what he was doing, and chose the money. It wasn’t his one chance, he had years of decent contracts ahead but he chose the one thing which would completely screw all his team mates and supporters - all the little kids who got Taylor shirts and idolised him. - See 3 above He had a right to play for whoever he liked but we have a right to dislike him, and I fully intend to exercise that right. After all, we paid his wages for about 4 years. Your choice, some will take the pragmatic view that those 4 years wages were well spent and well earned. Don't you just love a good debate on a forum? Fantastic we are not sheep! Who’s side are you on for ducks sake? I’m not reading his article he can stick it up his arse. You’re way, way too pragmatic about this. You have 2 parts broadly in your brain. An amygdala and your cerebral cortex. What I believe you are doing is utilising your cortex, which is why you’ve clearly posted words which took reason and rationality, both of which are entirely inappropriate for this situation. What I would like you to do is to consult your Amygdala - the primative, lizard brain, and seek its wisdom. What do you see? You’ll see a tribe. A tribe of blue and white faced men with long hair, dancing with sticks around a campfire. You will see their contorted faces, hear their grunts of anger and survey the scene of angst. Beyond you will see a man tied to a stake. His face is painted red. Now, what I would like you to do next is really get in touch with this area of the brain. Perhaps join the tribal dance around your living room and, even though speech in this state is undoubtedly a challenge, make a crude approximation of the word “tray-tor”. Why not throw in a lit torch, which can be fashioned from a coat hanger and a toilet roll in a pinch. Allow the flames to madden and inflame your brutish anger and intensify the words “Tray-tor!” “Tray-tor”. Take the next few moments to really vibe the blood red images of angry blood lust which cloud your mind. Now, you, sir, have arrived at the correct place to be a football fan. Was it a reasonable decision? “No. TRAY-TOR!” What’s your opinion of the trade off between club loyalty and career earnings? “TRAYTOR! TRAYTOR!” Is it not best to view things reasonably and…. “Urgh! TRAY TOR!” Hopefully this helps explain things on a deeper level than that anemic waffle about being reasonable you posted before.
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Post by stapletongas on Nov 15, 2021 20:12:58 GMT
That sounds like you view football as a mere commercial matter. Because it is. Clubs buy and sell finely balancing a results based business with not putting the club at risk...obviously some fail both ways Did you forget all the circumstances regarding his sale? The context of it? The release fee? The fact it was deliberately left as late as possible in the window to prevent us signing a replacement - purely to get one over on us on behalf of his new employer? - Rumour, rumour and more rumour, none confirmed or proven, but lets face it, fans like a good rumour to back up what they want to believe. Yes, he’s a footballer earning a living. He was a footballer who could have comfortably got a deal probably at plenty of other clubs, and he chose to totally betray everyone who had helped him in his journey, from DC who plucked him out of forest green reserves to the fans who stuck with him despite not scoring for about 12 games. All parties have subsequently confirmed that there were no other offers to play at a higher lever Then, after all that he openly mocks us and tries to wind our fans up, Does he? Have you read is interview after the last game the other week, he expressed his appreciation for teh majority of our fanbase Yes, commercial decision. Defrauding pensioners is a commercial decision - those fraudsters have families to feed too. Hell, Judas had mouths to feed when he picked up those pieces of silver. Well, that's not fraud, check the Fraud Act 2006 and while you're having a good read, find any reference to Judas' family in the New Testament. You don't know much about Easter? It’s only football at the end of the day, it’s a game, but Taylor knew full well what he was doing, and chose the money. It wasn’t his one chance, he had years of decent contracts ahead but he chose the one thing which would completely screw all his team mates and supporters - all the little kids who got Taylor shirts and idolised him. - See 3 above He had a right to play for whoever he liked but we have a right to dislike him, and I fully intend to exercise that right. After all, we paid his wages for about 4 years. Your choice, some will take the pragmatic view that those 4 years wages were well spent and well earned. Don't you just love a good debate on a forum? Fantastic we are not sheep! Who’s side are you on for ducks sake? I’m not reading his article he can stick it up his arse. You’re way, way too pragmatic about this. You have 2 parts broadly in your brain. An amygdala and your cerebral cortex. What I believe you are doing is utilising your cortex, which is why you’ve clearly posted words which took reason and rationality, both of which are entirely inappropriate for this situation. What I would like you to do is to consult your Amygdala - the primative, lizard brain, and seek its wisdom. What do you see? You’ll see a tribe. A tribe of blue and white faced men with long hair, dancing with sticks around a campfire. You will see their contorted faces, hear their grunts of anger and survey the scene of angst. Beyond you will see a man tied to a stake. His face is painted red. Now, what I would like you to do next is really get in touch with this area of the brain. Perhaps join the tribal dance around your living room and, even though speech in this state is undoubtedly a challenge, make a crude approximation of the word “tray-tor”. Why not throw in a lit torch, which can be fashioned from a coat hanger and a toilet roll in a pinch. Allow the flames to madden and inflame your brutish anger and intensify the words “Tray-tor!” “Tray-tor”. Take the next few moments to really vibe the blood red images of angry blood lust which cloud your mind. Now, you, sir, have arrived at the correct place to be a football fan. Was it a reasonable decision? “No. TRAY-TOR!” What’s your opinion of the trade off between club loyalty and career earnings? “TRAYTOR! TRAYTOR!” Is it not best to view things reasonably and…. “Urgh! TRAY TOR!” Hopefully this helps explain things on a deeper level than that anemic waffle about being reasonable you posted before. Takes all sorts to make a world my friend and we are just two examples of millions. At least I was constructive, pragmatic, factual and living in the real world. Oh, bloody good post though, made me laugh!
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Post by gulfofaden on Nov 15, 2021 20:16:16 GMT
Who’s side are you on for ducks sake? I’m not reading his article he can stick it up his arse. You’re way, way too pragmatic about this. You have 2 parts broadly in your brain. An amygdala and your cerebral cortex. What I believe you are doing is utilising your cortex, which is why you’ve clearly posted words which took reason and rationality, both of which are entirely inappropriate for this situation. What I would like you to do is to consult your Amygdala - the primative, lizard brain, and seek its wisdom. What do you see? You’ll see a tribe. A tribe of blue and white faced men with long hair, dancing with sticks around a campfire. You will see their contorted faces, hear their grunts of anger and survey the scene of angst. Beyond you will see a man tied to a stake. His face is painted red. Now, what I would like you to do next is really get in touch with this area of the brain. Perhaps join the tribal dance around your living room and, even though speech in this state is undoubtedly a challenge, make a crude approximation of the word “tray-tor”. Why not throw in a lit torch, which can be fashioned from a coat hanger and a toilet roll in a pinch. Allow the flames to madden and inflame your brutish anger and intensify the words “Tray-tor!” “Tray-tor”. Take the next few moments to really vibe the blood red images of angry blood lust which cloud your mind. Now, you, sir, have arrived at the correct place to be a football fan. Was it a reasonable decision? “No. TRAY-TOR!” What’s your opinion of the trade off between club loyalty and career earnings? “TRAYTOR! TRAYTOR!” Is it not best to view things reasonably and…. “Urgh! TRAY TOR!” Hopefully this helps explain things on a deeper level than that anemic waffle about being reasonable you posted before. Takes all sorts to make a world my friend and we are just two examples of millions. At least I was constructive, pragmatic, factual and living in the real world. Oh, bloody good post though, made me laugh! Did you light the torch and do the tribal dance as I suggested? I know you can view Taylor’s move pragmatically, but i will never get over the trauma of that, it was hideous and extremely cruel on the rovers fans. I don’t think I’ll ever get over it, the two faced turncoat b******
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Post by stapletongas on Nov 15, 2021 20:22:27 GMT
Takes all sorts to make a world my friend and we are just two examples of millions. At least I was constructive, pragmatic, factual and living in the real world. Oh, bloody good post though, made me laugh! Did you light the torch and do the tribal dance as I suggested? I know you can view Taylor’s move pragmatically, but i will never get over the trauma of that, it was hideous and extremely cruel on the rovers fans. I don’t think I’ll ever get over it, the two faced turncoat b****** I just subscribe to the idea that not getting upset about things you can’t control leads to a happier life. You keep your hair for longer too 😉👍
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Post by yategasman on Nov 15, 2021 20:24:07 GMT
Marty Taylor can never be forgiven end of story!
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Post by stapletongas on Nov 15, 2021 20:29:14 GMT
Marty Taylor can never be forgiven end of story! How about Matty McFly?
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Post by clockendgas on Nov 15, 2021 20:47:54 GMT
Marty Taylor can never be forgiven end of story! How about Matty McFly? Now if we could go back to 2007,around may time🙂
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Post by stapletongas on Nov 15, 2021 20:53:42 GMT
He’s probably still hit 88mph and still see some serious sh**
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Post by aghast on Nov 15, 2021 20:55:52 GMT
The only ones who come out of the whole situation in a cynical dishonourable way are BCFC (1982) Ltd.
Taylor did what he did for his family, and most of us would have done the same at the end of a contract, with a big money offer on the table. It's not lovely, but it's life. In a few years he'll be past it and no longer earning big bucks.
We had a contract with him, and had to honour it. We did what had to be done.
The Franchise chose to exploit a weakness purely for the purpose of f*cking us over, with no real intention of ever using him as a first team regular. Disgraceful. I didn't ever really think the Rosy-Cheeked one actually cared about us much, but that episode showed he did, and was mightily worried about the possibility of us getting into the Championship. If we had, questions might have been asked about the point of him actually propping the club up.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Nov 15, 2021 21:31:35 GMT
The amount needed to trigger the release clause was printed in the Daily Mail days before the 82'ers put their bid in, so other clubs knew what the score was, but none of them put an offer in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2021 21:38:49 GMT
Get over it.
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Post by kruger on Nov 15, 2021 21:39:14 GMT
Oh does this mean he won't come to our ground and cup his ears, poor little thing, running scared
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Post by aghast on Nov 15, 2021 22:31:00 GMT
The amount needed to trigger the release clause was printed in the Daily Mail days before the 82'ers put their bid in, so other clubs knew what the score was, but none of them put an offer in.
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Nov 15, 2021 22:35:01 GMT
Oh yes - that LOOK 🤣 Good old Darrell 💙
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Post by mftc on Nov 15, 2021 22:59:11 GMT
Is everyone on here still working at the same job that they were when they were 16/18/21 when they started employment?
Is everyone married to the first person they missed?
If the answer is no, I guess either they were not loyal/ had better offers or someone else was not loyal to them.
It's life - get over it.
Most players don't care that much. It is just a job.
If Belly, Evans, Thomas or Nicholson were offered a 2 year contract at Ashton Gate to triple their wages, dont you think they would go? Of course they would.
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Post by justin blue on Nov 16, 2021 0:12:04 GMT
No way is he faking an injury. Does anyone seriously think he's afraid of a few nasty words from the terraces? He obviously stopped worrying about that kind of thing when he signed his 'X' in the place Mr Lansdown told him to. If you do believe he's scared then you might have an inflated view of our importance. It obviously affects him hence the ear cupping and comments about his goal answering the chants from some fans. I don’t think he enjoyed his last visit to the Mem with the crowd on his back and I doubt he’s looking forward to playing here tomorrow. However if he’s fit I’m sure he’ll play. If he is injured I hope it’s painful.
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Post by richie on Nov 16, 2021 6:59:29 GMT
Well they can F off too then. “Learned of the bid?” You mean the bid which was exactly the release fee in his contract which was supposed to be confidential? He must have been so surprised at the bid - amazing Jedi mind tricks by the city board. Perhaps they should start guessing the weight of the cake in the raffle because they seem to be great at estimating unknown information, The great thing about all of this at the end of the day is that he didn’t make anything of himself and probably would have been better off staying, or waiting till the end of the season for a club who actually wanted to play him, rather than using him as a ceremonial way to poke us in the eye and then put him on the bench. You’re mad if you think agents don’t talk to clubs all The time mate. How does everyone know Haaland’s release clause at Dortmund? 🤷🏻♂️ Listen I’m not making excuses for him, he’s a snake but the fact is he won’t be faking an injury to get out of playing at the Mem. I love its when we use elite players to compare, I wonder if anyone knows any release clauses from current league one/two players
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Post by gulfofaden on Nov 16, 2021 7:19:58 GMT
Is everyone on here still working at the same job that they were when they were 16/18/21 when they started employment? Is everyone married to the first person they missed? If the answer is no, I guess either they were not loyal/ had better offers or someone else was not loyal to them. It's life - get over it. Most players don't care that much. It is just a job. If Belly, Evans, Thomas or Nicholson were offered a 2 year contract at Ashton Gate to triple their wages, dont you think they would go? Of course they would. I’d like to think they would spit in their faces and remain playing for Rovers. After all, we have our own tents whereas City have a bunch of plastic seats.
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