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Post by alanrg on Nov 24, 2021 8:47:46 GMT
I don’t blame JB for calling out Luke Thomas that was a pathetic miss and the disallowed goal for Brett Pitman what was the linesman thinking never offside in a million years
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Post by warehamgas on Nov 24, 2021 8:51:50 GMT
Even Tisdale had a better points per game record than Barton 😆 I saw better football tonight than I saw from either Garner or Tisdale Rovers teams. Think this season has to end in promotion though or it will be a failure Perhaps. But this has been in a lower division against some really poor performing teams and we still lie 14th after being unable to win matches after dominating games. The standard of Salford last night was awful, truly awful, they were the traditional ‘pub team’, and that may be unfair to pub teams. Perhaps that’s why there were less than 1000 of their fans there last night. (Probably more to do with Man U on TV). I’m not really disagreeing with you but the performance at Wimbledon last December was our best imo. My worry is that since mid October we’ve put together some good performances but have risen from 16th to 14th. Steady progress but not startling. And the manager has to be responsible for that. UTG!
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Post by Sir Trevor B'Sol on Nov 24, 2021 8:59:35 GMT
Did we draw 1-1 at Salford City?
Previous 4 AWAY League results.
WALSALL Win 2 v 1
COLCHESTER UNITED Draw 1 v 1
BRADFORD CITY Draw 2 v 2
HARROGATE TOWN Won 1 v 0
In the last EIGHT LEAGUE fixtures:
WIN. 3. --. DRAW. --. 4. --. LOSS. --. 1.
OXFORD matches in the same spell.
Perspective.
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Post by Quarters on Nov 24, 2021 9:00:30 GMT
Not sure Barton can make Thomas score when he's clean though with just the goalie to beat? Thomas basically has cost us 2 pts tonight and now made Saturday's game that bit tougher. And Nicholson on Sat with that miss, just as easy, gets an easy ride?
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Post by Baxtinho on Nov 24, 2021 9:00:32 GMT
I don’t blame JB for calling out Luke Thomas that was a pathetic miss and the disallowed goal for Brett Pitman what was the linesman thinking never offside in a million years Doesn't scream of amazing man-management, and I can't see it helping with his mental health situation.
Also, the irony of Barton accusing someone else of thinking they're too good for the club!
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 24, 2021 9:04:03 GMT
Not sure Barton can make Thomas score when he's clean though with just the goalie to beat? Thomas basically has cost us 2 pts tonight and now made Saturday's game that bit tougher. No our sh*t defence cost us 2 points last night
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Nov 24, 2021 9:09:03 GMT
I’m sure there’s more to the Thomas situation than meets the eye but on that piece of play, he made a great run through the middle, begged for the ball and then couldn’t finish the chance. A yard the other side of the post and Barton would have been singing his praises. He’s not a player that goes missing on the pitch and opposition fans have singled him out as our best player in both of the games I’ve been to this season. We knew what we were getting with him and I’m not sure he’s going to react well to a rocket up the backside when he appears to be giving his all.
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Nov 24, 2021 9:13:45 GMT
I don’t blame JB for calling out Luke Thomas that was a pathetic miss and the disallowed goal for Brett Pitman what was the linesman thinking never offside in a million years Doesn't scream of amazing man-management, and I can't see it helping with his mental health situation.
Also, the irony of Barton accusing someone else of thinking they're too good for the club!
JB knows Thomas better than we do. He’s already given him the nurturing approach, now he’s gone for the kick up the behind. He wants the lad to do well A few weeks ago Thomas was being a bit of a bellend on the players night out, and had to be brought into line by a couple of the senior pros. Sounds like he needs another reality check.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Nov 24, 2021 9:15:43 GMT
I know its human nature to look for someone to blame when things go wrong but for goodness sake you would think we lost 6-0 and didn't even try! When teams go down to 10 men it rarely makes things any easier as the 10 usually up there effort levels , reorganise and it only takes a second or two for someone to score a Worldly , make a mistake and gift a goal and so on, 9 men for 10 mins well you would hope to see a game out but stuff happens for goodness sake,( remember Yeovil!) , Nicho ,Thomas getting stick for being human and missing chances ( neither are recognised 'finishers') known more for creating and chipping in with the odd goal than being prolific scorers, but since being asked to operate up front due to striker injuries we have looked far more threatening going forward, Pitman gets a good goal chalked off and so on. At the end of the day we are on a good run, team is really beginning to gel and all the signs point to an exciting climax to the season! Have not seen JB post match but certainly do not agree with public admonishing of players if that's the case, but JB has got this squad firing and i fully expect to get a positive result at Forest , so hey folks, Chill ! and enjoy our good form, its been a while!
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 24, 2021 9:26:45 GMT
Not sure Barton can make Thomas score when he's clean though with just the goalie to beat? Thomas basically has cost us 2 pts tonight and now made Saturday's game that bit tougher. And Nicholson on Sat with that miss, just as easy, gets an easy ride? Because he puts in some effort. Think Barton was mainly on about his attitude. All player’s miss chances, but are more likely to take them, if they put in the work on the training ground. Barton is obviously not happy with Thomas and this sounds like his final warning.
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Post by titchthephot on Nov 24, 2021 9:36:30 GMT
And Nicholson on Sat with that miss, just as easy, gets an easy ride? Because he puts in some effort. Think Barton was mainly on about his attitude. All player’s miss chances, but are more likely to take them, if they put in the work on the training ground. Barton is obviously not happy with Thomas and this sounds like his final warning. That may be the case but what good manager publicly slates one of his players? By all means give the player a rollicking but in the dressing room not in public. But did I expect anything different?
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Post by daniel300380 on Nov 24, 2021 9:49:02 GMT
Because he puts in some effort. Think Barton was mainly on about his attitude. All player’s miss chances, but are more likely to take them, if they put in the work on the training ground. Barton is obviously not happy with Thomas and this sounds like his final warning. That may be the case but what good manager publicly slates one of his players? By all means give the player a rollicking but in the dressing room not in public. But did I expect anything different? To be honest, I agree it should be kept in house, when possible. But for all we know, he could have spoke to him in private a number of times and this was the last throw of the dice. Fans have notified him not being bothered before and thinking of himself and he does not look fit. Do you think it’s likely that Joey hasn’t spoke to him before??
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Post by richie on Nov 24, 2021 10:04:15 GMT
or is it a double bluff and JB is just driving his price down?
Could be Genius
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Post by Henbury Gas on Nov 24, 2021 10:15:37 GMT
I’m sure there’s more to the Thomas situation than meets the eye but on that piece of play, he made a great run through the middle, begged for the ball and then couldn’t finish the chance. A yard the other side of the post and Barton would have been singing his praises. He’s not a player that goes missing on the pitch and opposition fans have singled him out as our best player in both of the games I’ve been to this season. We knew what we were getting with him and I’m not sure he’s going to react well to a rocket up the backside when he appears to be giving his all.Barton has the man management skills of a Nuclear bomb on Manchester. Typical small man syndrome who can't keep his big mouth shut
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Post by pirate on Nov 24, 2021 10:20:26 GMT
I don’t blame JB for calling out Luke Thomas that was a pathetic miss and the disallowed goal for Brett Pitman what was the linesman thinking never offside in a million years Deflecting blame and slaughtering a young lad that has previously suffered mental health problems, instead of questioning himself and his game management and why his team have thrown another 2 points away after surrending a 2 goal lead in the previous game, dropped 2 points against 10 man Colchester and earlier dropping another 2 points against 10 man Barrow. Bit a bit of a pattern emerging there. All Luke Thomas' fault though.
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Post by TAGas on Nov 24, 2021 10:25:19 GMT
More from JB
"I tell him about getting wired in. I’ve seen so many young players who think they’re going to be the exception to the rule, they’re going to be the ones who do not live their lives right, who can eat fast food, drink fizzy drinks and turn up and think they’re going to perform.
"Every single one of them ends up flat on their backside or sitting in a boozer saying ‘What a good player I could have been, I had all this ability'.
"No-one cares about that, do it every single week on the pitch and the most frustrating thing for me is all of our lads do to a man and it’s one or two that are letting the group down with ill-discipline.
"I’ve said to them in the dressing room, if they don’t get ship shape and sharpish, they will be leaving this building as soon as the window opens in January. We’re just not having it anymore.
"The amateur hour of Bristol Rovers is over. We’re the not **** about group. That’s what I am. I don’t have any b******* from any players. Didn’t have any at Fleetwood and I don’t intend to have any here."
Earlier in the season, Barton instructed Thomas to complete a "mini pre-season" away from the first-team group amid concerns over the player's match fitness.
Thomas responded with good performances against Carlisle United and Harrogate Town, but he has not started any of Rovers past three league games.
While Thomas was the only player named by the manager, Barton's warning applied to the whole squad ahead of the January transfer window.
"We’re miles ahead of where we were a month ago, but we’re not where I want us to be, which is winning all the time," he added.
"We will get there, as you’ve seen tonight it’s only a matter of time before we get there.
"The players who can come on the journey, they’ll be part of it. The players that don’t get it and spurn opportunities won’t be here.
"Fit in and buy into the programme and buy in to the dressing room. As I say, we’ve got a couple of lads who feel like the world owes them something, that feel like they can hide and that the momentum of the team will carry them on.
"It just won’t. You’re as strong as your weakest link and that’s everyone on the bench, that’s everybody in the dressing room and tonight we’ve got to be angry at that.
"I’m angry for our fans. They travelled all the way up here and we should have been taking maximum points down the road and we slipped up."
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Post by mj on Nov 24, 2021 10:28:36 GMT
I saw enough of our midfield last night to make me think few teams will over run us or out fight us.some of our passing through midfield was the best I have seen for a few years despite the dads army slur by some,Yes we should have put away our chances and yes we should not have conceded,when they went done to nine we were crying out for a winger to hug the touchline but anderson is injured.also bear in mind we did score what should have been the winner at the death.plenty of reasons to be optimistic especially if we can get a decent striker in to allow Evans and Nicholson to play a bit deeper
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Post by garythegas on Nov 24, 2021 10:34:47 GMT
I don’t blame JB for calling out Luke Thomas that was a pathetic miss and the disallowed goal for Brett Pitman what was the linesman thinking never offside in a million years Deflecting blame and slaughtering a young lad that has previously suffered mental health problems, instead of questioning himself agame management and why his team hav nd his e thrown another 2 points away after surrending a 2 goal lead in the previous game, dropped 2 points against 10 man Colchester and earlier dropping another 2 points against 10 man Barrow. Bit a bit of a pattern emerging there. All Luke Thomas' fault though.I am no fan of JB but I can't see how any blame can be put on him for last nights crazy final few minutes, the substitutions seemed the right ones at the right time. Sometimes mad things happen in football matches, like last tuesday night for example.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 24, 2021 10:38:26 GMT
I don’t blame JB for calling out Luke Thomas that was a pathetic miss and the disallowed goal for Brett Pitman what was the linesman thinking never offside in a million years Deflecting blame and slaughtering a young lad that has previously suffered mental health problems, instead of questioning himself and his game management and why his team have thrown another 2 points away after surrending a 2 goal lead in the previous game, dropped 2 points against 10 man Colchester and earlier dropping another 2 points against 10 man Barrow. Bit a bit of a pattern emerging there. All Luke Thomas' fault though. I don’t think there was anything wrong with the substitutions and the way the game played out Salford sat in with 10 men behind the ball and made it hard to break down. Nicho was starting to blow and Collins showed nothing of any end product throughout the game. Pitman and Thomas were able replacements to attempt to net us a second. Thomas has had an attitude problem at Barnsley and Ipswich. Whether that is mental health or not I don’t know but his reputation is preceding him off the field rather than the quality of his football on it. Like JB said, no point reflecting what a good player you could have been rather than showing what a good player you are. JB will know Thomas better than us, and perhaps knows how to make him tick better than us, he was also absolutely right to call out the shocking miss when he’s through on goal. He needs to bury that.
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Post by pirate on Nov 24, 2021 10:44:00 GMT
Deflecting blame and slaughtering a young lad that has previously suffered mental health problems, instead of questioning himself agame management and why his team hav nd his e thrown another 2 points away after surrending a 2 goal lead in the previous game, dropped 2 points against 10 man Colchester and earlier dropping another 2 points against 10 man Barrow. Bit a bit of a pattern emerging there. All Luke Thomas' fault though.I am no fan of JB but I can't see how any blame can be put on him for last nights crazy final few minutes, the substitutions seemed the right ones at the right time. Sometimes mad things happen in football matches, like last tuesday night for example. Things do happen in football matches, like dropping 2 points to 10 man Colchester and again to 10 man Barrow.
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